Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 29, 2016 0:53:37 GMT -5
It's the damnedest thing, because he's boring-to-death as a heel, and WWE can't book faces for crap.
But Del Rio has Babyface Fire at an almost Jason Jordan level, and even though he's an asshole, he likes to play to the crowd.
I think if WWE really committed to pushing ADR as a face, as El Patron, even though he's an arrogant dickbag, he'll get over, and be motivated to show us how good he can be.
His MITB performance where he worked his ass off convinced me to give him another shot.
So I hope WWE will do something serious about it.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Jun 29, 2016 12:13:52 GMT -5
You do realize you're talking about the WWE, right?
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Jun 29, 2016 12:36:14 GMT -5
You do realize you're talking about the WWE, right? I wonder who he could feud with. I was thin.... oh noooo OHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Big Poppa Pumpkin
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Jun 29, 2016 12:36:35 GMT -5
They already missed the boat on that one when he inexplicably returned as the heel ambassador for MexAmerica
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 29, 2016 12:43:43 GMT -5
Del Rio can work as a face, and before the Ziggler double turn in 2013, was doing just fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 12:47:29 GMT -5
Haven't seen him outside WWE, but he seemed much more comfortable to me when he was a face a couple years ago.
I'd love to see at least a couple matches between him and Rusev.
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 29, 2016 12:49:37 GMT -5
Haven't seen him outside WWE, but he seemed much more natural to me when he was a face a couple years ago. He seemed to be having more fun as a face
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Post by Yacht Persona on Jun 29, 2016 12:54:39 GMT -5
I'm fine with this, so long as he isn't winning matches or titles.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 29, 2016 12:56:49 GMT -5
Del Rio can work as a face, and before the Ziggler double turn in 2013, was doing just fine. The Swagger/Zeb "Real Americans" feud kinda killed his face run.
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Post by Bungle on Jun 29, 2016 13:00:16 GMT -5
He is a natural face.
I don't know why WWE insist with him as a heel
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Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 29, 2016 13:06:35 GMT -5
Del Rio can work as a face, and before the Ziggler double turn in 2013, was doing just fine. The Swagger/Zeb "Real Americans" feud kinda killed his face run. That's not even remotely his fault, too. Swagger was terribly un-over and had been doing next to nothing before the feud. The there's the matter of his suspension pretty much taking the piss out of the feud before it ever really started
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Brainbustaaah!
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Jun 29, 2016 14:29:46 GMT -5
Dude worked most of his career in Mexico as a face, so it makes a lot of sense. I'd love to see the El Patron gimmick get another go in WWE.
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mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jun 29, 2016 14:34:36 GMT -5
He doesn't even HAVE a gimmick anymore, so any change would be something, I guess.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 29, 2016 16:52:09 GMT -5
The Swagger/Zeb "Real Americans" feud kinda killed his face run. That's not even remotely his fault, too. Swagger was terribly un-over and had been doing next to nothing before the feud. The there's the matter of his suspension pretty much taking the piss out of the feud before it ever really started Zeb was the main attraction of the act and was making too many points that the crowd agreed with. Colter was heeling it up with statements that should had got him booed out the building but the crowd agreed with him and chanted "We The People". WWE basically gave Trump a blueprint to use years later. Del Rio suffered because his counter to Zeb ethering him was "I love America". Not a strong rebuttal. Definitely didn't help when WWE decided to pull the curtain back on the act to chastise Glenn Beck.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 29, 2016 16:55:12 GMT -5
Getting back to the subject, Del Rio works as a face once you stop the repetitive promos and let his natural charisma shine without the hamfisted character WWE wants him to do. We seen how he was in Lucha Underground. Full of life and fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 17:37:43 GMT -5
With how great El Patron was, it really boggles the mind how WWE can't get him over as Del Rio?
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Post by g1megatronfan on Jun 29, 2016 17:44:00 GMT -5
Face Del Rio was 85% less boring. Seriously...he could make a good face if they tried. I can see him even playing his original rich guy who shows up in expensive cars character again as a face. He's got some charisma and is decent in the ring so it could work. Del Rio as a babyface would be 1,000,000 times better than them forcing Roman Reigns in that role.
It's not gonna happen though. At least him replacing Reigns that is.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 29, 2016 19:01:42 GMT -5
That's not even remotely his fault, too. Swagger was terribly un-over and had been doing next to nothing before the feud. The there's the matter of his suspension pretty much taking the piss out of the feud before it ever really started Zeb was the main attraction of the act and was making too many points that the crowd agreed with. Colter was heeling it up with statements that should had got him booed out the building but the crowd agreed with him and chanted "We The People". WWE basically gave Trump a blueprint to use years later. Del Rio suffered because his counter to Zeb ethering him was "I love America". Not a strong rebuttal. Definitely didn't help when WWE decided to pull the curtain back on the act to chastise Glenn Beck. The big problem on Del Rio's end was that after years of being told he is an elite aristocrat in Mexico, and thus was rich before he came to America, he was suddenly coming out and saying things like "Born in Mexico, Made in America." He was not going to get over when he essentially lying to the audience, and the crowds started gravitating towards the possibility of Ziggler cashing in.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jun 29, 2016 19:14:51 GMT -5
pretty brilliant as he is now a POPULAR HEEL
after apollo embarresses lemon head, have del rio v sheamus v ZIGGLER
yeah let that sink in
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Jun 29, 2016 19:20:06 GMT -5
WWE has really shitty writers.
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