saintpat
El Dandy
Release the hounds!!!
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Post by saintpat on Jul 26, 2016 20:09:24 GMT -5
It's not a doghouse.
It's not a cathouse.
It's the house.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 26, 2016 20:25:54 GMT -5
I'm not surprised, he's the new Randy Orton. Orton's allegedly failed three times and he's still around. Na I wouldn't put him in Ortons class Orton was a straight up dick and not a likable person & I say this as one his biggest fans. Add on the fact he was on the roids along with other drug issues as he's described himself Reigns is reportedly busted for Adderrall and is typically described as a cool dude. I mean in terms of what he is. Not who he is. He's the next golden boy who'll continue to be pushed regardless of what business dictates, and get more chances just because of who he is. The biggest difference between Reigns and Ortons respective pushes, is there wasn't a Batista around during the Reigns one.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2016 20:30:19 GMT -5
Na I wouldn't put him in Ortons class Orton was a straight up dick and not a likable person & I say this as one his biggest fans. Add on the fact he was on the roids along with other drug issues as he's described himself Reigns is reportedly busted for Adderrall and is typically described as a cool dude. I mean in terms of what he is. Not who he is. He's the next golden boy who'll continue to be pushed regardless of what business dictates, and get more chances just because of who he is. The biggest difference between Reigns and Ortons respective pushes, is there wasn't a Batista around during the Reigns one. I knew what u meant but just was putting some context on it. & you're right Reigns will continue to get pushed because of who he is and how talented he is. That goes for The Shield in general as they are "The Guy." Rollins f*** up and nothing happening with him. Dean right now is clean as a sheet which works in his favor in totem pole ranking.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 26, 2016 20:34:01 GMT -5
I mean in terms of what he is. Not who he is. He's the next golden boy who'll continue to be pushed regardless of what business dictates, and get more chances just because of who he is. The biggest difference between Reigns and Ortons respective pushes, is there wasn't a Batista around during the Reigns one. I knew what u meant but just was putting some context on it. & you're right Reigns will continue to get pushed because of who he is and how talented he is. That goes for The Shield in general as they are "The Guy." Rollins f*** up and nothing happening with him. Dean right now is clean as a sheet which works in his favor in totem pole ranking. What did Rollins actually do that was bad though? His scumbag fiance posted nudes of him online without consent. How is that on him?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2016 20:41:59 GMT -5
I knew what u meant but just was putting some context on it. & you're right Reigns will continue to get pushed because of who he is and how talented he is. That goes for The Shield in general as they are "The Guy." Rollins f*** up and nothing happening with him. Dean right now is clean as a sheet which works in his favor in totem pole ranking. What did Rollins actually do that was bad though? His scumbag fiance posted nudes of him online without consent. How is that on him? Wasn't he cheating on his fiance tho? Isn't it reported his new girlfriend has a questionable past? Questions I would assume someone knows I would only say it's on him because of letting his personal life leak into his career as the pic was posted for all his fans to see We all know WWE is childish and if they wanted to f*** with him they could have. All i'm saying is Dean has kept his nose clean as compared to his two partners who will be his running mates for the next 10 years.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 26, 2016 20:50:54 GMT -5
What did Rollins actually do that was bad though? His scumbag fiance posted nudes of him online without consent. How is that on him? Wasn't he cheating on his fiance tho? Isn't it reported his new girlfriend has a questionable past? Questions I would assume someone knows I would only say it's on him because of letting his personal life leak into his career as the pic was posted for all his fans to see We all know WWE is childish and if they wanted to f*** with him they could have. All i'm saying is Dean has kept his nose clean as compared to his two partners who will be his running mates for the next 10 years. Who he chooses to be involved with is no one elses business but his own. It would be monstrous to punish someone for that. But there's no excuse for shaming someone by posting nudes of them online. Seth was a victim, not a perpetrator. It would be as absurd as WWE punishing Dean for his pre-WWE drug addiction problems.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2016 20:53:35 GMT -5
Wasn't he cheating on his fiance tho? Isn't it reported his new girlfriend has a questionable past? Questions I would assume someone knows I would only say it's on him because of letting his personal life leak into his career as the pic was posted for all his fans to see We all know WWE is childish and if they wanted to f*** with him they could have. All i'm saying is Dean has kept his nose clean as compared to his two partners who will be his running mates for the next 10 years. Who he chooses to be involved with is no one elses business but his own. It would be monstrous to punish someone for that. But there's no excuse for shaming someone by posting nudes of them online. Seth was a victim, not a perpetrator. It would be as absurd as WWE punishing Dean for his pre-WWE drug addiction problems. Except that stuff didn't happen on WWE watch with Dean The Seth stuff did. In WWE environment they not going to care about who u mess with but when your business get put on blast then you are f*** up. No excuses.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 26, 2016 20:56:59 GMT -5
Who he chooses to be involved with is no one elses business but his own. It would be monstrous to punish someone for that. But there's no excuse for shaming someone by posting nudes of them online. Seth was a victim, not a perpetrator. It would be as absurd as WWE punishing Dean for his pre-WWE drug addiction problems. Except that stuff didn't happen on WWE watch with Dean The Seth stuff did. In WWE environment they not going to care about who u mess with but when your business get put on blast then you are f*** up. No excuses. Again, Seth didn't actually do anything in that situation. In any business you cannot punish someone for something so out of their control as that.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 26, 2016 22:17:33 GMT -5
The difference is that Orton could care less. Most of that time he was already a heel so if fans crapped on him for failed wellness, well, so what? It is quite puzzling that WWE made such a massive deal out of the Reigns thing, while basically ignoring the Lesnar failure (which is the much bigger national story). Who in their right mind would think that a guy failing a drug test would make for a positive storyline? It didn't even really work for Jeff Hardy when CM Punk trashed him over his various wellness failures, and Hardy was 10x more over than Reigns. It's similar to asking baseball fans to cheer for guys who got popped on a steroid test, if they weren't that player's hometown fans.
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trollrogue
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Post by trollrogue on Jul 27, 2016 4:47:30 GMT -5
I can see where Vince is coming from. Like a previous comment said, I wouldn't have in a million years have picked Roman as the "Randy" of the Shield's "Evolution" who got caught up in Wellness... Ambrose DEF
Now that he's lost Hogan over non-American-Hero commentary, this Roman drug violation finally makes him similarly non-American-Hero and could cause Vince to reassess pushing Reigns to the moon. Vinny's back to only being able to trust/rely on John Cena, the only "The Guy" who really hasn't let him down in the last decade unless he makes more, so step one is to have Reigns job to the new "guys" like Ambrose and whoever else he can build on RAW to challenge the WHC
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Post by captainhindsite on Jul 27, 2016 7:37:27 GMT -5
It's not a good phase it's not a bad phase it's THE PHASE
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 27, 2016 8:21:17 GMT -5
I would only say it's on him because of letting his personal life leak into his career as the pic was posted for all his fans to see He didn't let his personal life leak into his career at all, his fiance hopped onto his company twitter account when he wasn't around to notice and posted a picture of his dong that it kind of made sense for her to have given they were engaged and all. Moral judgment on Seth and his affair notwithstanding, it was 100% his fiance who brought his personal life into his career explicitly in an attempt to get back at him. You don't punish someone at work because somebody who hates them keeps coming by the store demanding to see them and starting a huge scene.
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wisdomwizard
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Post by wisdomwizard on Jul 27, 2016 9:25:44 GMT -5
I would only say it's on him because of letting his personal life leak into his career as the pic was posted for all his fans to see He didn't let his personal life leak into his career at all, his fiance hopped onto his company twitter account when he wasn't around to notice and posted a picture of his dong that it kind of made sense for her to have given they were engaged and all. Moral judgment on Seth and his affair notwithstanding, it was 100% his fiance who brought his personal life into his career explicitly in an attempt to get back at him. You don't punish someone at work because somebody who hates them keeps coming by the store demanding to see them and starting a huge scene. Yup. I don't really care if Seth cheated on her 100 times, posting nudes is scummy as all heck no matter the gender of the perpetrator. All she did was prove exactly why he cheated on her. His newer girlfriend is a jackass for a different reason of course.
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