Meltzer and Alvarez talk about Reigns being in the doghouse

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EDIT: Here it is in text form since I wasn't sure if I could post the actual ep.

M - "Roman Reigns is clearly in the doghouse, at the end of the show after he lost he congratulated Balor and he wants a rematch. One thing that hasn't changed is that they have not given up on Roman Reigns as a babyface."

A - "No they haven't lol!"

M - "Looks like they've decided that he's being, I wouldn't say punished is the word but he's definitely being phased down, he's not getting the big push that he got before, but they haven't given up on it and the thing is that this guy was by far the biggest heel on the show and he was the only heel that was over to that level. The only qualm I have about the show is that it's not even a debatable point anymore but now it's universal that on tv he's the most booed guy there is. It's not like a John Cena thing but he's a heel, they should make him a heel and they should take advantage of it and if people start cheering him as a babyface and that natural thing happens then turn him back but if you keep him a babyface, they've been fighting this fight forever now, it's more like 1.5 years and I thought Rollins making fun of him over the drug test was the last desperation thing and it didn't work so now just go with it. People want him to be a heel, you've got Finn Balor who clearly you can make him your top face and he's being positioned as such and you've got other faces too."

A - "You know the Roman Reigns thing, before it was sorta like "Ok, we don't wanna turn the guy because we want him to be our top guy as a babyface, we're not gonna give up, we can't let you guys dicatate what we do blah blah blah", if they're now phasing him down then turn him! If you're not going to push him as your main top guy anymore, he won't be a jobber, Zack Ryder, he'll still be a star, a pushed act but he's not going to be your guy for a while then turn the guy."

Then they go on and on and on, yada yada yada whatever, they talked about what if Reigns helped Rollins win the title and they do a 2 man Shield thing leading to Rollins going face, whatever, they even say this might be a trick but as of right now yeah he's in that doghouse and this ain't the end of it. He's being phased down.

Never thought this day would happen.

[Brainbustaaah!]

The Big Dog House?

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He was still the main focus after the main event it feels to me as a fake doghouse to work the fans.He'll be fine.

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Jul 26, 2016 15:30:18 GMT -5 Brainbustaaah! said:

The Big Dog House?

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If he aligns with Seth Rollins I would predict it would play out like a face turn no matter what they did.

[sternrogers01]

Jul 26, 2016 15:34:07 GMT -5 @mrbonezone said:

He was still the main focus after the main event it feels to me as a fake doghouse to work the fans.He'll be fine.

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

[schizo]

This dog could use a roommate 

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

"We can't let you, the customer, dictate what we do."

Whoever is the leader of that mentality should be fired and blackballed.

[Main Eventer]

Jul 26, 2016 15:40:21 GMT -5 TWERKIN' MAGGLE said:

"We can't let you, the customer, dictate what we do."

Whoever is the leader of that mentality should be fired and blackballed.

I don't think Vince is going to fire himself.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jul 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

Jul 26, 2016 15:34:07 GMT -5 @mrbonezone said:

He was still the main focus after the main event it feels to me as a fake doghouse to work the fans.He'll be fine.

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

For someone whose supposedly "in the doghouse" he's sure getting a lot of TV time and focus. I'm sure a lot of guys who've been buried in the past wish they could be "buried" the way Roman is. Others have been taken off TV entirely for lesser offenses, but since Roman is a golden boy, he still gets to enjoy some semblance of main event status. F*** that noise. It's disgusting.

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Jul 26, 2016 16:17:53 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jul 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

For someone whose supposedly "in the doghouse" he's sure getting a lot of TV time and focus. I'm sure a lot of guys who've been buried in the past wish they could be "buried" the way Roman is. Others have been taken off TV entirely for lesser offenses, but since Roman is a golden boy, he still gets to enjoy some semblance of main event status. F*** that noise. It's disgusting.

Again, He does not need to be a total jobber just because you dislike him.

[The Summer of Muskrat XVII]

Jul 26, 2016 16:17:53 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jul 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

For someone whose supposedly "in the doghouse" he's sure getting a lot of TV time and focus. I'm sure a lot of guys who've been buried in the past wish they could be "buried" the way Roman is. Others have been taken off TV entirely for lesser offenses, but since Roman is a golden boy, he still gets to enjoy some semblance of main event status. F*** that noise. It's disgusting.

Nobody said he's being buried, but the dude had been pinned clean like once in his 3.5 year run before his drug suspension. Since they found out about it, he's been pinned clean 3 times in 3 straight matches. He's not being protected like he once was


EDIT: Also, whether you like him or not, the guy still has a tonne of potential if they play their cards right. You really think he should get shitcanned for pissing hot for Aderall??

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Jul 26, 2016 16:17:53 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jul 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

For someone whose supposedly "in the doghouse" he's sure getting a lot of TV time and focus. I'm sure a lot of guys who've been buried in the past wish they could be "buried" the way Roman is. Others have been taken off TV entirely for lesser offenses, but since Roman is a golden boy, he still gets to enjoy some semblance of main event status. F*** that noise. It's disgusting.

One offense doesn't get you off TV. Your letting your hate for him stand in the way of common sense. He's taking his beatings like a man and he will bounce back.

The fact that u think they are going to take their star off TV for a first time offense is laughable.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jul 26, 2016 16:31:23 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Jul 26, 2016 16:17:53 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

For someone whose supposedly "in the doghouse" he's sure getting a lot of TV time and focus. I'm sure a lot of guys who've been buried in the past wish they could be "buried" the way Roman is. Others have been taken off TV entirely for lesser offenses, but since Roman is a golden boy, he still gets to enjoy some semblance of main event status. F*** that noise. It's disgusting.

One offense doesn't get you off TV. Your letting your hate for him stand in the way of common sense. He's taking his beatings like a man and he will bounce back.

The fact that u think they are going to take their star off TV for a first time offense is laughable.

Of course it doesn't. Not when the company is determined to the point of desperation to make fetch happen with you. Lots of guys have "taken their beatings like a man", but since they don't give Vince a boner, they don't get to bounce back. I know that they aren't going to take Roman off TV and THAT'S why I'm pissed about this whole thing.

[Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks]

They really should just turn him heel already, if they're giving up on Hogan-ing him for the time being. As it stands, his presentation makes no sense.

His promos are pure babyface, he gets the conquering hero uberface video package. Then he works his matches as a heel, the crowd boos him and Graves (the mostly heelish commentator) praises him, only not in the way a heel praises another heel, but the way a face announcer talks about a face wrestler.

He's not a tweener, it's not character depth or complexity. It's just a nonsensical mess.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Jul 26, 2016 16:34:39 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jul 26, 2016 16:31:23 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

One offense doesn't get you off TV. Your letting your hate for him stand in the way of common sense. He's taking his beatings like a man and he will bounce back.

The fact that u think they are going to take their star off TV for a first time offense is laughable.

Of course it doesn't. Not when the company is determined to the point of desperation to make fetch happen with you. Lots of guys have "taken their beatings like a man", but since they don't give Vince a boner, they don't get to bounce back. I know that they aren't going to take Roman off TV and THAT'S why I'm pissed about this whole thing.

Get it threw your head. They are not taking one their top superstars off TV. Period. A first time offense for Adderrall is not getting you off TV.

A lot of guys don't take their beatings like a man because they bitch and moan on social media and being passive aggressive.

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Regardless if people like Reigns or not, the guy does have potential but more than that, honestly, are his accolades. He's got so many accolades and has done so much in 3.5 years that they can't turn him into Sandow's replacement. That's not productive. Just turn him heel and use those accolades and strength to propel others. Look at Rollins and Ambrose. They, his former teammates, were never seen on his level until they beat him clean and now they're automatically even with him(well better now that he's been beaten), Ambrose even more than Rollins as he's at the top of the totem pole for full time superstars. Balor, a brand new star on the main roster, was made in 1 night by beating Reigns clean.

That's what you do. Have higher profiled guys go over someone like Reigns to give them a boost and it goes around. Just turn him heel, keep this movement going and he's good.

Kevin Owens needs to get a Reigns win next before he becomes a a world champion. That's what Reigns needs to be. To be a team player you've gotta help the team.

[Allie Kitsune]

Jul 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

Jul 26, 2016 15:34:07 GMT -5 @mrbonezone said:

He was still the main focus after the main event it feels to me as a fake doghouse to work the fans.He'll be fine.

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

Sadly, WWE is so desperate to have Roman be THE ONE AND ONLY THING that even a heel turn will be seen as an attempt to get the fans to like him. "Oh, you like heels better? Well then you'll LOVE Heel Roman SO MUCH we can make him FOREVER THE MAN!!!"

[abjordans]

Jul 26, 2016 16:17:53 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jul 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

For someone whose supposedly "in the doghouse" he's sure getting a lot of TV time and focus. I'm sure a lot of guys who've been buried in the past wish they could be "buried" the way Roman is. Others have been taken off TV entirely for lesser offenses, but since Roman is a golden boy, he still gets to enjoy some semblance of main event status. F*** that noise. It's disgusting.

Huh? He was taken off TV for 30 days. Then jobbed clean as a sheet 2 nights in a row. You guys are impossible.

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Jul 26, 2016 16:56:00 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Jul 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT -5 sternrogers01 said:

This constant "it's all a work" thing with you lot makes me cringe

Sadly, WWE is so desperate to have Roman be THE ONE AND ONLY THING that even a heel turn will be seen as an attempt to get the fans to like him. "Oh, you like heels better? Well then you'll LOVE Heel Roman SO MUCH we can make him FOREVER THE MAN!!!"

That's the thing though, if Reigns goes heel you can't lose. If he's booed as a heel? Great it works and he can be used to propel others. If he's really cheered? Then turning him heel's got the fans finally behind him.

You can't lose with a heel turn.