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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jul 31, 2016 1:03:31 GMT -5
It's a tricky question. Literally no one watched Stunning Steve Austin winning the TV title or Rocky Maivia sashaying around in that weird cape and thought "Watch your ass, Hogan!" so it's almost impossible to predict.
On the other hand, it's hard to look at who they've got and how they're presented and say "Get Disney and the ghost of Steve Jobs on the phone because this rocket's going to MARS!!"
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Post by No Name is needed Bro Beans on Jul 31, 2016 1:04:20 GMT -5
Braun Strowman or Bo Dallas or Kevin Owens or Cesaro or Nakamura and finally No Way Jose
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Jul 31, 2016 3:27:19 GMT -5
Tons and tons of potential, but booking is the key
From Cesaro to Sasha to Peyton to Moss to Almas to Sami to Bayley to Alexa to Kota to Rusev to Seth to Bray....
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 31, 2016 3:47:46 GMT -5
Seriously, it's her. I was all set to post 'no.' But who was the last woman was over enough to get a pop like the one at Battleground? Chyna? There been a veiw divas who got big pops. Trish was extremely over in the early 00s when she turned face. Lita was as well up until the Matt Hardy deal. Mickie for a while had it as well. Bayley I can see her being it, The best thing about her is that she has this role model for females style and a gimmick everyone relates too. Really what she is Trish and Lita of this new era so to speak or this generation. Now as long the WWE keeps it going with her by using her the right way and more so be on the main roster. Time will tell how much Main Stream Media attention she gets. That kind of what puts Cena in that different level. People want to argue it about Cena but Cena IS in that level. 13 years as THE GUY is impressive and the merchandise doesn't lie, neither is all the hosting jobs he done, talks shows, and everything else Hogan, Austin, and the Rock have done to make them Main Stream, Cena done it and there is also a reason why he do much in demand for Make a wish. That where I see Bayley becoming big at being the female Cena in Make a Wish. She has that style little girls would look up too and idolize her. Now will she be on talk shows and stuff like that time will tell.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 31, 2016 4:54:27 GMT -5
Yes, but it doesn't matter because they aren't willing to book them as megastars. Well, except the guy that they tried to book as a megastar... But because the process was so blatantly transparent and forced based on it not being someone with a larger, more organic fan following and a better body of work, it almost seemed that the harder they pushed, the less likely it would be that it'd be successful, and now it looks like the guy may never actually be the megastar they want him to be.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 31, 2016 5:21:25 GMT -5
Seriously, it's her. Yep, I also think that Alexa will cross into the mainstream.
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Post by baerrtt on Jul 31, 2016 9:09:53 GMT -5
It's a tricky question. Literally no one watched Stunning Steve Austin winning the TV title or Rocky Maivia sashaying around in that weird cape and thought "Watch your ass, Hogan!" so it's almost impossible to predict.
On the other hand, it's hard to look at who they've got and how they're presented and say "Get Disney and the ghost of Steve Jobs on the phone because this rocket's going to MARS!!" Considering how they pushed him at the start (his debut at Survivor Series '96) I immediately knew Vince saw Dwayne as a future megastar. How he got there was unexpected that's all.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 31, 2016 9:14:53 GMT -5
If there is, it's going to be someone we don't expect. No one saw Austin and Rock happening until it just did. Not true. Heyman predicted that Steve Austin would go on to be the biggest star in the business back in 1992, saying that he saw him becoming the top star in about five years, which would have put it around 1997. This was not an in-character interview as Austin's on-screen manager. This was an interview with newsletter writer/radio host Wade Keller. Also, just personally I thought the Rock had the potential to be a huge star way before he became one. I think in both cases it was predictable. Sorry, but I just don't like the argument that Bischoff always uses when he's asked about firing Steve Austin. Bischoff always says that no one could have predicted that Steve Austin would become such a big star, when this was in fact predicted years earlier.
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Post by dxbang on Jul 31, 2016 9:51:39 GMT -5
With all due respect, I think those of you that think Bayley will be the one that reaches Hogan/Austin/Rock/Cena levels are insane (at least in regards to this topic 😊).
The Miz had crossover appeal because of the Real World. Some of my friends still see him and say "that's the guy from The Challenge (MTV show)," but that doesn't put him anywhere near the level of the four guys above...or anyone else listed for that matter.
Batista may have success in terms of getting better movie roles than everyone other than The Rock, but if he returned now his run would not be much different than the one just before Guardians of The Galaxy. Nowhere near the level of those four guys in terms of bringing in new fans, being the face of the company, and basically making wrestling mainstream.
I think Kevin Owens is great...but nobody outside of the wrestling world will tune in to see KO (just my opinion). Same thing with Ambrose. Seth and Roman are ahead of him when it comes to that.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 31, 2016 10:07:16 GMT -5
No.
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Post by onestepplan on Jul 31, 2016 10:36:02 GMT -5
Enzo Amore, period. When Enzo speaks, everyone listens, no matter what he's saying. It's that magnetism that makes the biggest stars. Nak probably has the charisma for it, but there are a few things working against him. Give Enzo an underdog run at the belt and make him a fighting champion with a big mouth and it's done. That guy is the guy.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 31, 2016 11:04:32 GMT -5
Considering Cena is still on the roster...yes.
Future megastars? Maybe.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jul 31, 2016 15:28:27 GMT -5
If there is, it's going to be someone we don't expect. No one saw Austin and Rock happening until it just did. Not true. Heyman predicted that Steve Austin would go on to be the biggest star in the business back in 1992, saying that he saw him becoming the top star in about five years, which would have put it around 1997. This was not an in-character interview as Austin's on-screen manager. This was an interview with newsletter writer/radio host Wade Keller. Also, just personally I thought the Rock had the potential to be a huge star way before he became one. I think in both cases it was predictable. Sorry, but I just don't like the argument that Bischoff always uses when he's asked about firing Steve Austin. Bischoff always says that no one could have predicted that Steve Austin would become such a big star, when this was in fact predicted years earlier. I think a big thing with the Rock was, people were calling that he was gonna be a star, but they were being VERY conservative about how long it was gonna take. I seem to recall it being mentioned that insiders were predicting that he was gonna be the biggest star in the business by the year 2000. He beat that estimate by about a year and a half. Not sure about Heyman's thing with Austin. When was that Keller interview, because it's pretty easy to say with hindsight "Oh, yeah, I knew from the word go that he was gonna be a star".
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Post by government mule on Jul 31, 2016 15:36:39 GMT -5
I think theres a lot more to come from that bright young star Hunter Hearst Helmsley in the future. I see him winning the title at least 15 more times in the next decade.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 15:46:25 GMT -5
There might be, but WWE doesn't want that. They just want the brand to be known, and no one guy/chick to eclipse the brand.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jul 31, 2016 15:48:57 GMT -5
If there is, it's going to be someone we don't expect. No one saw Austin and Rock happening until it just did. Not true. Heyman predicted that Steve Austin would go on to be the biggest star in the business back in 1992, saying that he saw him becoming the top star in about five years, which would have put it around 1997. This was not an in-character interview as Austin's on-screen manager. This was an interview with newsletter writer/radio host Wade Keller. Also, just personally I thought the Rock had the potential to be a huge star way before he became one. I think in both cases it was predictable. Sorry, but I just don't like the argument that Bischoff always uses when he's asked about firing Steve Austin. Bischoff always says that no one could have predicted that Steve Austin would become such a big star, when this was in fact predicted years earlier. Heyman talking about Austin and Vince pushing Rocky right away were them seeing those guys as top stars within the confines of the wrestling world. That's the Bret Hart/HBK level mentioned in the OP, the top guy in the company. Not a massive crossover household name, which is I think what we're defining "megastar" as.
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Post by Cieto on Jul 31, 2016 15:50:25 GMT -5
If booked correctly, Bayley, Rollins and Nakamura.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jul 31, 2016 16:05:04 GMT -5
I'm surprised not many people said ambrose. The guy had what it takes to be a successful actor as well as a wrestler
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 31, 2016 16:21:51 GMT -5
Cena is a big star, but Savage belongs at least on the same tier. Mainstream-wise, he's way more iconic.
To the question at hand, it's impossible to predict this sort of thing until you're in the throes of it. Tons of guys now will say things like how they knew Austin was going to be the huge money draw he became. These people are by and large blowing smoke. Austin was certainly always talented, and could have become a standard bearer, but no one prior to 98 could've foreseen just how high his rise would be. Same thing here.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 31, 2016 16:26:18 GMT -5
Not true. Heyman predicted that Steve Austin would go on to be the biggest star in the business back in 1992, saying that he saw him becoming the top star in about five years, which would have put it around 1997. This was not an in-character interview as Austin's on-screen manager. This was an interview with newsletter writer/radio host Wade Keller. Also, just personally I thought the Rock had the potential to be a huge star way before he became one. I think in both cases it was predictable. Sorry, but I just don't like the argument that Bischoff always uses when he's asked about firing Steve Austin. Bischoff always says that no one could have predicted that Steve Austin would become such a big star, when this was in fact predicted years earlier. Heyman talking about Austin and Vince pushing Rocky right away were them seeing those guys as top stars within the confines of the wrestling world. That's the Bret Hart/HBK level mentioned in the OP, the top guy in the company. Not a massive crossover household name, which is I think what we're defining "megastar" as. If thats the definition of megastar then the answer is no. Because there's only been 4 of them imo since 1975 or so (Andre,Hogan, Stone Cold and Rock.)
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