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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Aug 22, 2016 17:24:06 GMT -5
I love the idea of Vince shouting "It's a work! It's all fake!"
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Post by _tronz on Aug 22, 2016 17:24:29 GMT -5
Michael Hayes ragged on Ambrose for ragging on Lesnar. He possibly started this fight because he chose to *seemingly* protect Lesnar. f*** Michael Hayes. Also f*** Brock Lesnar generally. Don't get in backstage fights if you don't care. Which based on your matches it sure God damn seems like you don't. Let's go over Brock's last two years, shall we? 2015 - - Awesome triple threat with Cena/Rollins - Great match with Roman Reigns - Good match with Rollins hurt by a short match time to set up for Taker's return - Great match with Undertaker - Another great HIAC with Undertaker And that's it besides two glorified house show matches aired on the network for 2015. 2016 - - A rumble appearance there to just set up a feud, not much to it like most Rumble appearances that are just there to set up for an elimination later - Really really good to great triple threat with Dean/Reigns - A boring match with Dean that was very creatively bankrupt by the writers leading it and hurt by Lesnar knowing he had a bigger payday and bigger stage than Mania around the corner at UFC 200 if he could stay healthy. - Orton match done so he could murder someone and re-establish himself after being pretty aimless as a character since the Taker feud. And that's it minus house shows/Roadblock(which was a house show). So overall the guy is still delivering in the ring and killing it every f***ing time. The guy has a persona that literally no one in WWE can duplicate and he brings a feeling to shows that can't be manufactured. He's awesome and connects and you can tell that when every german he did last night was crazy over and got Suplex City chants. If you don't like Brock fair enough but to say that because of one phoned in performance and some squashes he "doesn't care" is absolutely ludicrous. The biggest issue I have with the internet is that often it seems to operate in extremes. Either Brock Lesnar is the best thing in the business or "f*** him and he sucks" And it's downright silly. Lesnar is a monster. He's legit. He's fun to watch at least for me. If you don't like him or his style or even his personality that is completely fair but leave it at that. Anyway this whole situation just made me really roll my eyes at Jericho. We get it, you're worried, that sucks. There are better ways to handle it than throwing a hissy fit in gorilla position. Like f***ing talk to Randy Orton who appeared backstage minutes later. Makes him look like a geek.
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Post by Steveweiser on Aug 22, 2016 17:24:40 GMT -5
Wow, Jericho got worked something fierce.
Also, Jericho was likely the source for this, as he's a noted Meltzer source.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 22, 2016 17:25:34 GMT -5
What, of all time? Because it's not even close to just being the worst Summerslam. Maybe not the worst ever but the fallout alone must rank it pretty high up there. To me it's the worse Summerslam I've witnessed since being a fan by a pretty far margin. Nah. Not even with the fallout. The fallout isn't even that bad. Just this incident and the Sasha stuff. Watch some older Summerslams and get some perspective. It's nowhere near Vince tossing his headset down and screaming 'f***ING HORRIBLE' after a Diesel main event at a In Your House and shifting the entire direction of the product. People are real quick to label things as the worst of all time lately.
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Post by The Yes Man on Aug 22, 2016 17:25:35 GMT -5
I would just like to say, I f***ing love Jericho. This current run is one of his best, which is great because after the 2014 run I kinda gave up hope on him. Dude had two completely unrealistic dreams and made them both happen, and has the balls to stand up in Brock Lesnars face.
When I grow up I want to be Chris Jericho.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Aug 22, 2016 17:27:10 GMT -5
I love the idea of Vince shouting "It's a work! It's all fake!" GOD DAMN IT YOU MARKS!
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Aug 22, 2016 17:27:23 GMT -5
I love Jericho but.... ....what a mark. Props for standing up to Brock cuz that takes balls but like, maybe you shouldn't go around running your mouth when you don't know the facts of the situation.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 22, 2016 17:27:45 GMT -5
Also I know Brock doesn't like people but damn bro you are not endearing yourself at all. If he goes after Jericho just for a miscommunication I'm sure the younger guys are like f*** this guy
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 22, 2016 17:28:29 GMT -5
Michael Hayes ragged on Ambrose for ragging on Lesnar. He possibly started this fight because he chose to *seemingly* protect Lesnar. f*** Michael Hayes. Also f*** Brock Lesnar generally. Don't get in backstage fights if you don't care. Which based on your matches it sure God damn seems like you don't. I don't know, if you're going to have someone's back Lesnar isn't a bad one to have. By all accounts he is loyal to those that are right with him. Not revealing something is a work to a guy with a reputation for saying too much kinda falls into that and I doubt he expected a fight to break out.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 22, 2016 17:28:32 GMT -5
I love Jericho but.... ....what a mark. Props for standing up to Brock cuz that takes balls but like, maybe you shouldn't go around running your mouth when you don't know the facts of the situation. According to the story he tried figuring out the facts but Hayes told him f***-all.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 22, 2016 17:29:12 GMT -5
Hilarious that Trips sided with Jericho.
Props to Jericho for standing up to Brock even though he got worked worse than we did.
I really hate that the insider mags have to use real names. 'Levesque sided with Jericho.' Uh, you mean Irvine? Pick one, morons.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Aug 22, 2016 17:30:13 GMT -5
I know that it's "old school" but the idea of intentionally busting somebody up hardway is not only barbaric but flat out moronic. It's 2016. Why? At least this was planned and Orton knew what was going to happen. I don't see how it's worse than somebody getting KTFO in boxing or MMA.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 22, 2016 17:30:17 GMT -5
Michael Hayes ragged on Ambrose for ragging on Lesnar. He possibly started this fight because he chose to *seemingly* protect Lesnar. f*** Michael Hayes. Also f*** Brock Lesnar generally. Don't get in backstage fights if you don't care. Which based on your matches it sure God damn seems like you don't. Let's go over Brock's last two years, shall we? 2015 - - Awesome triple threat with Cena/Rollins - Great match with Roman Reigns - Good match with Rollins hurt by a short match time to set up for Taker's return - Great match with Undertaker - Another great HIAC with Undertaker And that's it besides two glorified house show matches aired on the network for 2015. 2016 - - A rumble appearance there to just set up a feud, not much to it like most Rumble appearances that are just there to set up for an elimination later - Really really good to great triple threat with Dean/Reigns - A boring match with Dean that was very creatively bankrupt by the writers leading it and hurt by Lesnar knowing he had a bigger payday and bigger stage than Mania around the corner at UFC 200 if he could stay healthy. - Orton match done so he could murder someone and re-establish himself after being pretty aimless as a character since the Taker feud. And that's it minus house shows/Roadblock(which was a house show). So overall the guy is still delivering in the ring and killing it every f***ing time. The guy has a persona that literally no one in WWE can duplicate and he brings a feeling to shows that can't be manufactured. He's awesome and connects and you can tell that when every german he did last night was crazy over and got Suplex City chants. If you don't like Brock fair enough but to say that because of one phoned in performance and some squashes he "doesn't care" is absolutely ludicrous. The biggest issue I have with the internet is that often it seems to operate in extremes. Either Brock Lesnar is the best thing in the business or "f*** him and he sucks" And it's downright silly. Lesnar is a monster. He's legit. He's fun to watch at least for me. If you don't like him or his style or even his personality that is completely fair but leave it at that. Anyway this whole situation just made me really roll my eyes at Jericho. We get it, you're worried, that sucks. There are better ways to handle it than throwing a hissy fit in gorilla position. Like f***ing talk to Randy Orton who appeared backstage minutes later. Makes him look like a geek. All that did was show me has been boring since November. We're coming up on a year of his appearances being a waste of time. Based on listening to him talk plus his performances I've seen to me it seems like he doesn't care. Don't tell me where to leave it at. We can disagree. I'm cool with that but don't tell me what to say. I don't operate in extremes. The Internet isn't one person. My opinion might sound extreme here but that isn't my normal mode. Crowds like him so he's still valuable but killing Orton and when officials defend him over the WWE champ on social media, he ain't worth all that.
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Post by Venti on Aug 22, 2016 17:30:25 GMT -5
Maybe not the worst ever but the fallout alone must rank it pretty high up there. To me it's the worse Summerslam I've witnessed since being a fan by a pretty far margin. Nah. Not even with the fallout. The fallout isn't even that bad. Just this incident and the Sasha stuff. Watch some older Summerslams and get some perspective. It's nowhere near Vince tossing his headset down and screaming 'f***ING HORRIBLE' after a Diesel main event at a In Your House and shifting the entire direction of the product. People are real quick to label things as the worst of all time lately. Off topic, I know, but which In Your House was that? Im real curious. And I agree, people are nuts with the negative hyperbole to the point it's almost comical.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 22, 2016 17:31:34 GMT -5
So how long until Vince books them in a match just because he thinks it'd be hilarious?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 17:31:58 GMT -5
Regardless of the true story, if you looked at Jericho would you imagine he was that kind of badass?
On his offtime I guess he likes to visit biker bars, go out front and reenact that pee wee's big adventure scene tipping all the bikes over, then find the biggest guy inside wearing lots of USMC stuff and say "What are you going to do about it, you little bitch?"
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 22, 2016 17:32:00 GMT -5
Hilarious that Trips sided with Jericho. Props to Jericho for standing up to Brock even though he got worked worse than we did. I really hate that the insider mags have to use real names. 'Levesque sided with Jericho.' Uh, you mean Irvine? Pick one, morons. To be fair, WWE, and especially Paul Levesque, have tried to separate Paul Levesque from the executive from Triple H the performer. From Twitter to Facebook, the media calls and other stories, he is Levesque unless it is storyline related.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Aug 22, 2016 17:32:17 GMT -5
I love Jericho but.... ....what a mark. Props for standing up to Brock cuz that takes balls but like, maybe you shouldn't go around running your mouth when you don't know the facts of the situation. According to the story he tried figuring out the facts but Hayes told him f***-all. True, but why not wait until Orton just comes to the back and he can talk with him? I don't see how he goes from Hayes won't tell me anything > it must be a shoot and that's bullshit. Just unnecessarily rash by Jericho.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 22, 2016 17:32:50 GMT -5
Nah. Not even with the fallout. The fallout isn't even that bad. Just this incident and the Sasha stuff. Watch some older Summerslams and get some perspective. It's nowhere near Vince tossing his headset down and screaming 'f***ING HORRIBLE' after a Diesel main event at a In Your House and shifting the entire direction of the product. People are real quick to label things as the worst of all time lately. Off topic, I know, but which In Your House was that? Im real curious. And I agree, people are nuts with the negative hyperbole to the point it's almost comical. I believe it was In Your House 4 Diesel Vs. Bulldog. It wasn't on camera or anything but immediately after the show was off the air Vince was PISSED.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 22, 2016 17:33:08 GMT -5
Michael Hayes ragged on Ambrose for ragging on Lesnar. He possibly started this fight because he chose to *seemingly* protect Lesnar. f*** Michael Hayes. Also f*** Brock Lesnar generally. Don't get in backstage fights if you don't care. Which based on your matches it sure God damn seems like you don't. I don't know, if you're going to have someone's back Lesnar isn't a bad one to have. By all accounts he is loyal to those that are right with him. Not revealing something is a work to a guy with a reputation for saying too much kinda falls into that and I doubt he expected a fight to break out. Yeah the Ambrose thing is the worse of the two to me. I can see this being a spiral because he just reacted to slowly. I was a little strong with my initial reaction.
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