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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 29, 2016 16:14:09 GMT -5
I have always found it odd that the WWE doesn't cover travel or hotel costs for its talent. That has to eat up a ton of the talent's budget every year. I remember reading how Foley and Austin would share hotel rooms in divey parts of town or sleep in there car sometimes to save a few bucks. And this was during 1998 Keep in mind those two admit to being very cheap tho
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 16:19:09 GMT -5
I remember reading how Foley and Austin would share hotel rooms in divey parts of town or sleep in there car sometimes to save a few bucks. And this was during 1998 Keep in mind those two admit to being very cheap tho And this is why Flair and Hogan need to still kiss up to WWE periodically while Austin pretty much has f***-you money and only works with them when he wants to.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 29, 2016 16:22:09 GMT -5
Keep in mind those two admit to being very cheap tho And this is why Flair and Hogan need to still kiss up to WWE periodically while Austin pretty much has f***-you money and only works with them when he wants to. Agreed. Both made an ass load of money but didn't know how to contain it and in Ric Flair case continue to spend money on new wives every 2 years.
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Post by bearned on Aug 29, 2016 16:25:58 GMT -5
It is kind of ironic that the guy who played some part in Punk leaving has left with fairly similar grievances.
It's obvious that they did kind of misuse Ryback seeing as he was over but how much of that is his own fault (carelessness etc) is definitely up for discussion.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 29, 2016 16:28:45 GMT -5
I laugh everytime someone says "oh ,they are going back crawling" dudes like Punk and Cody already have money for life. Ryback probably has a bunch too. Maybe they dont need the Money anymore.
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Post by abjordans on Aug 29, 2016 16:41:10 GMT -5
Everytime something comes out with Ryback explaining his side or venting an issue, he always comes off as a babyface in my eyes. Bottom line is WWE should have put the belt on him in the fall of 2012 and messed up badly doing so. Probably their biggest mess up of the 2010's thus far. Ryback had something special.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 16:41:10 GMT -5
I laugh everytime someone says "oh ,they are going back crawling" dudes like Punk and Cody already have money for life. Ryback probably has a bunch too. Maybe they dont need the Money anymore. There's guys like Honky Tonk Man and Scott Steiner who continue to make high six figures annually every year on the independent circuit/signings/shoot interviews and other ventures. Like yeah they wouldn't been able to do this if it wasn't for there WWE and WCW fame but it's possible to live a comfortable and make high figures if you brand yourself right.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Aug 29, 2016 16:44:46 GMT -5
Sure squashed AJ. I believe that as much as Abyss being scheduled to face the Undertaker at Mania during his negotiations
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Post by Dub H on Aug 29, 2016 16:48:52 GMT -5
I laugh everytime someone says "oh ,they are going back crawling" dudes like Punk and Cody already have money for life. Ryback probably has a bunch too. Maybe they dont need the Money anymore. There's guys like Honky Tonk Man and Scott Steiner who continue to make high six figures annually every year on the independent circuit/signings/shoot interviews and other ventures. Like yeah they wouldn't been able to do this if it wasn't for there WWE and WCW fame but it's possible to live a comfortable and make high figures if you brand yourself right. I`m not even speaking indie booking,that is just a plus. All three man probably have a bunch of money saved,since they all had a fair success at some point.So they can just sit on that money,while doing smaller jobs
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 29, 2016 16:50:38 GMT -5
Sure squashed AJ. I believe that as much as Abyss being scheduled to face the Undertaker at Mania during his negotiations What's not believable about the Abyss claim? That's the whole reason they wanted Mankind and the Kane character too. It's just monster-of-the-now booking which until they acknowledged the streak and he went on that tear of killer WM matches was really the core of his Deadman gimmick.
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Post by xCompackx on Aug 29, 2016 17:03:17 GMT -5
Regardless of Ryback's questionable claims involving AJ, it is pretty telling how so many guys have similar complaints regarding how WWE treats talent. I don't think anyone needed convincing that there's shady stuff happening, but to see all of these accounts is depressing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 17:04:40 GMT -5
Sure squashed AJ. I believe that as much as Abyss being scheduled to face the Undertaker at Mania during his negotiations What's not believable about the Abyss claim? That's the whole reason they wanted Mankind and the Kane character too. It's just monster-of-the-now booking which until they acknowledged the streak and he went on that tear of killer WM matches was really the core of his Deadman gimmick. During that time period they negotiated with every new hoss that you could face The Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Like apparently guys like Luther Reigns, Heidenreich, Snitsky, Matt Morgan, Nathan Jones, Wade Barrett, and even Braun Strowman were all promised a serious opportunity to wrestle The Undertaker. The Undertaker just happens to be very selective who he faces and vetoed pretty much everybody in favor of guys he trusts or a young guy to elevate.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Aug 29, 2016 17:25:17 GMT -5
What's not believable about the Abyss claim? That's the whole reason they wanted Mankind and the Kane character too. It's just monster-of-the-now booking which until they acknowledged the streak and he went on that tear of killer WM matches was really the core of his Deadman gimmick. During that time period they negotiated with every new hoss that you could face The Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Like apparently guys like Luther Reigns, Heidenreich, Snitsky, Matt Morgan, Nathan Jones, Wade Barrett, and even Braun Strowman were all promised a serious opportunity to wrestle The Undertaker. The Undertaker just happens to be very selective who he faces and vetoed pretty much everybody in favor of guys he trusts or a young guy to elevate. I could buy him starting a program with the Undertaker but to be guarenteed a Mania match with him means they were blowing smoke up his ass. There was no way that was a swrious guarantee just like squashing AJ at Mania was a serious guarantee
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Post by abjordans on Aug 29, 2016 17:29:02 GMT -5
What's not believable about the Abyss claim? That's the whole reason they wanted Mankind and the Kane character too. It's just monster-of-the-now booking which until they acknowledged the streak and he went on that tear of killer WM matches was really the core of his Deadman gimmick. During that time period they negotiated with every new hoss that you could face The Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Like apparently guys like Luther Reigns, Heidenreich, Snitsky, Matt Morgan, Nathan Jones, Wade Barrett, and even Braun Strowman were all promised a serious opportunity to wrestle The Undertaker. The Undertaker just happens to be very selective who he faces and vetoed pretty much everybody in favor of guys he trusts or a young guy to elevate. Abyss is a respected worker, I don't think it is crazy they would have came up for something to bring him in for a WM provrams. Wasn't this suppose to happen prior to WM 23, when the streak matches weren't expected to steal the show?
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Post by Perd on Aug 29, 2016 17:35:25 GMT -5
I don't doubt for a second that Vince told Ryback he'd squash AJ. Wrestling promoters lie. It's pretty much their defining characteristic.
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Post by fortknox on Aug 29, 2016 17:35:31 GMT -5
And this is why Flair and Hogan need to still kiss up to WWE periodically while Austin pretty much has f***-you money and only works with them when he wants to. Agreed. Both made an ass load of money but didn't know how to contain it and in Ric Flair case continue to spend money on new wives every 2 years. Not to take this off subject but, I've never read reports about Hogan blowing money. He never had money problems till Linda divorced him and Nick had his car accident.
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Post by Steveweiser on Aug 29, 2016 17:36:24 GMT -5
Most people are missing the point with the "squashing AJ at Mania" thing - Ryback himself didn't believe that would happen, he used it as an example of a false promise that Vince gave him that he wasn't going to stick to. A lot of "Wrestling Twitter" have completely taken what Ryback said out of context, they've just seen the quotes, and assumed that Ryback believed he was going to squash AJ at Mania.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 29, 2016 17:46:57 GMT -5
I don't doubt for a second that Vince told Ryback he'd squash AJ. Wrestling promoters lie. It's pretty much their defining characteristic. I know you lie 'Cause you promote wrestlin' Tell me do you think I'm dumb
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Post by JCBaggee on Aug 29, 2016 17:48:16 GMT -5
So the final straw after having a bunch of frustrations (all of which understandable IMO) was that he actually believed Vince would let him *squash* AJ at Mania, which of course didn't happen. Ok buddy I'm a fan of you and all but if you believed that was going to be a thing I have some GFW gold bars I'd like you to invest in. Is it so hard to believe that Ryback was going to squash him considering Styles jobbed at Mania anyways? Flying pretty fast and loose with the definition of jobbed there. AJ lost, but I'd hardly say he was jobbed out.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 29, 2016 17:51:13 GMT -5
Is it so hard to believe that Ryback was going to squash him considering Styles jobbed at Mania anyways? Flying pretty fast and loose with the definition of jobbed there. AJ lost, but I'd hardly say he was jobbed out. "Jobbed" and "jobbed out" are two different things. AJ wasn't jobbed out, but he did job at Mania. Jobbing is losing, period.
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