Seth Rollins face turn

[4real]

I don't know if this will work. He's been a total dick for the last 2 years and now suddenly we have to feel sorry for him? It's Orton in 2004 all over again for me.

Why should we cheer Seth? Because he's decent in the ring? He already had a long title run is anyone really clamouring for another one?

Help me out here FAN.

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

If they're turning him face, they'd better give us a reason to like him other than, Triple H turned on him.

[MGH]

Aug 30, 2016 12:26:04 GMT -5 TWERKIN' MAGGLE said:

If they're turning him face, they'd better give us a reason to like him other than, Triple H turned on him.

Yep. Like the OP said, this can't be Orton in 2004 all over again. Orton is a talented dude but he totally flopped because they gave people no reason to actually want to be on his side.

Last night Seth didn't show any apprehension at taking HHH's help. He was smiling and walking towards Owens ready to take the hand out. They need to build him up to this instead of him coming out next week being the same dude.

[Evil Homer]

was it a Rollins face turn or HHH face turn ?

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Aug 30, 2016 12:28:10 GMT -5 MGH said:

Aug 30, 2016 12:26:04 GMT -5 TWERKIN' MAGGLE said:

If they're turning him face, they'd better give us a reason to like him other than, Triple H turned on him.

Yep. Like the OP said, this can't be Orton in 2004 all over again. Orton is a talented dude but he totally flopped because they gave people no reason to actually want to be on his side.

Last night Seth didn't show any apprehension at taking HHH's help. He was smiling and walking towards Owens ready to take the hand out. They need to build him up to this instead of him coming out next week being the same dude.

It turns out that Hunner was teaching his adopted son a lesson for generously letting Kevin Owens use his time to talk.

You never give away promo time! 25 minutes of asking questions and then answering them yourself or else!

[Push R Truth]

it felt like he was slowly turning face before his injury. I almost thought he was going to turn face when he came out at WM in that white and gold attire.

[Allie Kitsune]

People are quickly going to realize that it's just another ploy to Get Roman Over, and they're going to shit all over it.

[Reflecto]

Aug 30, 2016 12:36:20 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

People are quickly going to realize that it's just another ploy to Get Roman Over, and they're going to shit all over it.

Even beyond that, the act of the Shield turn and how each character played out may be a bigger weakness to a Rollins face turn.

With how each member of the Shield went (Rollins as the heel, Reigns...never particularly caring much, but Ambrose vowing revenge)- there is also that non-zero chance that the Rollins/Ambrose rivalry got to enough of a blood feud that any Seth Rollins face turn would inherently need Dean Ambrose to personally forgive Seth Rollins and give his blessing for Rollins to be a good guy again...but if Ambrose is on Smackdown, that likely can't happen.

[Nr1Humanoid]

Aug 30, 2016 12:26:04 GMT -5 TWERKIN' MAGGLE said:

If they're turning him face, they'd better give us a reason to like him other than, Triple H turned on him.

Simplicity; thy name is WWE.

[Allie Kitsune]

Aug 30, 2016 13:46:14 GMT -5 Nr1Humanoid said:

Aug 30, 2016 12:26:04 GMT -5 TWERKIN' MAGGLE said:

If they're turning him face, they'd better give us a reason to like him other than, Triple H turned on him.

Simplicity; thy name is WWE.

<Saxton> He's Roman's little buddy, Michael!
<Graves> Byron, I hope you get hit by a fruit truck.

That's all we're getting, count on it.

[Corre.222]

It seems to me his heel run has run it's course and the fans were itching to cheer him, such as when he returned from injury. This is just as much as a development as Kevin Owens winning the Universal championship!

[Rolent Tex]

They need to slow burn it for just a little...not a straightforward face turn. Trips is the COO and is in a position to say screw the brand split, I do what the hell I want. We already know his issues with Reigns and Ambrose and now he's soured on Rollins. Rollins is OG Trips minus the success. He's a failed pet project. Trips booted a more successful project in Orton to kickstart the Rollins era.

Trips needs to invade Smackdown with KO and either Jericho or another NXT alum in tow and steal the title from Ambrose when they goad Bryan and Shane into allowing a title match. Then in the rematch, Reigns runs in to help Ambrose and gets beat down for his trouble. Rollins runs in for the save and the Shield boys form an uneasy alliance to take on Trips and the champs at Survivor Series. In the process, Seth tells Trips to take his Pedigree and shove it and brings back the Curb Stomp.

[JTH]

Aug 30, 2016 14:17:10 GMT -5 Corre.222 said:

It seems to me his heel run has run it's course and the fans were itching to cheer him, such as when he returned from injury. This is just as much as a development as Kevin Owens winning the Universal championship!

Fans were clamoring for Miz to be turned face back when, and it didn't work because his dickish in ring persona doesn't make it work.

This isn't Austin, that was a very rare exception, Seth was a whiny dick character, plus Stephanie is still in his corner apparently, yet another reason why the mainstream fan won't cheer him. She represents everything the causal fan won't cheer for.

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He can be an Austin-like face and by that I mean he's still an asshole who doesn't take shit except he's fighting heels instead of faces. He doesn't need to be kissing babies and all that. He just needs to tone down the more asshole-ishness, attack heels and well basically be the version of what he was in the Shield when they turned face.

[RIHT]

Honestly, if they turned Reigns heel and paired him with Rollins as a Two-Man Powertrip 2016, while Triple H became a blunt, but just executive, and Owens became a bold bruiser champion that Jericho tries to leech off of.

[g1megatronfan]

I have a feeling it's more like an HHH face turn than anything. Maybe he does what others have said and does something with the NXT people on the main roster. If they plan on this being Rollins face turn...then they got major work to do for them to have the fans feel sympathy towards him after being such a dick for the past few years.

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Aug 30, 2016 15:45:57 GMT -5 @kn said:

He can be an Austin-like face and by that I mean he's still an asshole who doesn't take shit except he's fighting heels instead of faces. He doesn't need to be kissing babies and all that. He just needs to tone down the more asshole-ishness, attack heels and well basically be the version of what he was in the Shield when they turned face.

See, given all the shit that Rollins has done, I think doing this would be a tremendous cop-out. Rollins broke up the hottest stable in wrestling out of pure selfishness, has an incredible coward streak despite his athletic ability, literally threatened to murder someone on live TV, and never really got his comeuppance for two and a half years of assholery. A Rollins face run absolutely has to have a redemption element to it, not just "He's exactly the same, but to heels."

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Aug 30, 2016 16:31:53 GMT -5 @tacticalsneakman said:

Aug 30, 2016 15:45:57 GMT -5 @kn said:

He can be an Austin-like face and by that I mean he's still an asshole who doesn't take shit except he's fighting heels instead of faces. He doesn't need to be kissing babies and all that. He just needs to tone down the more asshole-ishness, attack heels and well basically be the version of what he was in the Shield when they turned face.

See, given all the shit that Rollins has done, I think doing this would be a tremendous cop-out. Rollins broke up the hottest stable in wrestling out of pure selfishness, has an incredible coward streak despite his athletic ability, literally threatened to murder someone on live TV, and never really got his comeuppance for two and a half years of assholery. A Rollins face run absolutely has to have a redemption element to it, not just "He's exactly the same, but to heels."

Rollins basically got his comeuppance from the Shield situation when Ambrose cashed in on him. The announcers even said Ambrose was a "ghost of Seth's past" and said Ambrose finally got revenge on him after all he did. The only thing left is Rollins threatening to kill Edge and then the Authority stuff in general which, as we've seen with the Authority situation, it all came back on him last night. The Edge stuff was classic heel stuff.

Either way, karma's already gotten him back heavily so he's fine for a turn.

[The Ichi]

I can see them doing it just to have a one night only Shield reunion or something.

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Aug 30, 2016 16:47:39 GMT -5 @kn said:

Aug 30, 2016 16:31:53 GMT -5 @tacticalsneakman said:

See, given all the shit that Rollins has done, I think doing this would be a tremendous cop-out. Rollins broke up the hottest stable in wrestling out of pure selfishness, has an incredible coward streak despite his athletic ability, literally threatened to murder someone on live TV, and never really got his comeuppance for two and a half years of assholery. A Rollins face run absolutely has to have a redemption element to it, not just "He's exactly the same, but to heels."

Rollins basically got his comeuppance from the Shield situation when Ambrose cashed in on him. The announcers even said Ambrose was a "ghost of Seth's past" and said Ambrose finally got revenge on him after all he did. The only thing left is Rollins threatening to kill Edge and then the Authority stuff in general which, as we've seen with the Authority situation, it all came back on him last night. The Edge stuff was classic heel stuff.

Either way, karma's already gotten him back heavily so he's fine for a turn.

I know I've felt bad for him ever since he was screwed out of the UpUpDownDown UFC 2 tournament.