|
Post by King (Super) Dragunov on Sept 7, 2016 20:06:01 GMT -5
Good, I hope Vince loses sleep over it too. Nah, nothing is ever his fault. It's always someone else. Plus the dude never sleeps apparently. Takes a lot of work to be as horrible at your job as he is. He'll blame Owens, take the title off of him, instead of realizing the shitty writing is tanking the show, and the person responsible for the shitty writing is of course Owens, and not Vince. Just like others who have been blamed for the poor ratings, instead of the guy who has final say on everything. This falls under the same umbrella with people who are given shit to work with and then are blamed for not getting over. It's their fault. *sarcasm*
|
|
|
Post by billyvg on Sept 7, 2016 20:08:43 GMT -5
This is bad. This could end in Kevin Owens losing the title if things don't rebound. You know he'll get blamed for it as the champion.
|
|
|
Post by Texas Tornado on Sept 7, 2016 20:13:45 GMT -5
They should probably focus more on building a better show instead of taking incessant shots at Smackdown all night.
|
|
|
Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 7, 2016 20:49:10 GMT -5
|
|
Lancers
El Dandy
Oh you
Posts: 7,951
|
Post by Lancers on Sept 7, 2016 21:02:01 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by ben:friendship frog on Sept 7, 2016 22:29:16 GMT -5
The fact that Smackdown has a genuinely good possibility of taking over RAW in the ratings within the next month is fascinating to me. Going live and on the same network.. we might finally have some of that real brand competition they've been harping on about for 14 years.
|
|
StuntGranny®
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Not Actually a Granny
Posts: 16,099
|
Post by StuntGranny® on Sept 7, 2016 23:21:19 GMT -5
They're f***ing idiots if they blame it on Kevin Owens. It was on a holiday and it was going up against a college football game with two top-ranked teams. They've had a shit product for a while now, anyone could see that they were up the creek when football season rolled around.
Plus, the show was one of the worst episodes of Raw I've ever seen. You'd have to be really tough to sit through all of that.
|
|
riseofsetian1981
King Koopa
"I met him fifteen years ago. I was told there was nothing left."
Posts: 10,323
|
Post by riseofsetian1981 on Sept 7, 2016 23:25:55 GMT -5
And somehow they'll find a way to blame D-Bry for all of this.
|
|
|
Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 8, 2016 0:05:51 GMT -5
Not surprising at all, the opening segment was good, they followed that up with Bayley vs Charlotte, and Jericho vs Rollins closed the 1st hour, after that 1st hour all that was left was Sahsa's announcement, but they threw on so much shit that people tapped out. The 1st hour was good, but the rest of the way it was like a slow car wreck with shit like Enzo and Cass doing the "America, f*** yeah!" promo against 2 guys from Puerto Rico, The Club's segment, and the Titus vs Young stuff.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 8, 2016 0:12:26 GMT -5
So is it too soon FAN to declare Owens as champ tv poison like y'all did with Orton and Punk? Honestly outside of it being Labor Day night, FSU's monster comeback murked all chances of keeping the audience. I was looking at both and watched the parts of Raw I missed on my DVR. That FSU comeback had me saying f*** Raw. & with MNF making a return too they are going to be hard press to keep people glued past halftime if they put shit like New Day on again
|
|
Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
FANatic
Writer, Lover of all things Wrestling. Analytical, Critical, Lovable (hopefully). Lets all have fun!
Posts: 236,075
|
Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 8, 2016 0:57:59 GMT -5
The opening segment with Owens to see the fallout of what happened had a 3.3
Don't blame him for it going down to a 2.7, they had to suffer through That Old Day Segment, Sin Cara vs Strowman, Alicia Fox hitting Nia Jax with a Box of Donuts, Darren Young vs Jinder Mahal with Titus on Commentary which ended in the worst outside brawl ever between Titus and Darren, and so much more.
By the time Owens vs Zayn happened, people tuned out, for good reason, and as a FANer said who was there live, when Roman Reigns music hit, people just started leaving the arena in droves...
|
|
|
Post by benstudd on Sept 8, 2016 1:55:31 GMT -5
Their problem is that they never follow shit up. They had Hunter doing this awesome attack and then he disappears. They always fail to give their storylines momentum.
|
|
|
Post by audiencewatching on Sept 8, 2016 3:21:59 GMT -5
^ Are we to expect that + Stephanie hasn't spoken to her husband all week (despite living together and having 3 kids) + That her husband hasn't explained to her in an entire week of living together why he did it + That Mick Foley, concussions or not, is stupid enough to believe Stephanies character is a good person despite literally an entire career of the opposite
The story telling is just, just, terrible.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 3:27:26 GMT -5
Their problem is that they never follow shit up. They had Hunter doing this awesome attack and then he disappears. They always fail to give their storylines momentum. If I were to guess, their thought process was, "We can get an initial ratings boost from the confusion, AND one for when we actually promote an explanation's coming!" It's a very counterintuitive, self-defeating system deliberately sabotaging momentum that way but it's the exact kind of thing WWE does all the time.
|
|
|
Post by KofiMania on Sept 8, 2016 8:36:14 GMT -5
Is this usually the case for Labor Day shows? No, they had 3.3 million last year. If it were just a matter of, "More people cutting the cord, that's the only reason!" like they say it'd have been a 1.8 percent drop, they'd have only gone down by about 60,000 people, but instead it was more a 10% drop. People are just plain tuning out. Last year's Labor Day Raw had a similar percentage drop. There's just been less people overall watching 2016 vs. 2015.
|
|
|
Post by Captain & Diet on Sept 8, 2016 9:08:51 GMT -5
The overnights don't really tell the story. You've got to factor in DVR viewing and Hulu viewing. You've got to look at social media engagement and youtube views, too. Then there's - on WTF do I care anyways Raw was ass.
|
|
|
Post by benstudd on Sept 8, 2016 21:19:38 GMT -5
Their problem is that they never follow shit up. They had Hunter doing this awesome attack and then he disappears. They always fail to give their storylines momentum. If I were to guess, their thought process was, "We can get an initial ratings boost from the confusion, AND one for when we actually promote an explanation's coming!" It's a very counterintuitive, self-defeating system deliberately sabotaging momentum that way but it's the exact kind of thing WWE does all the time. Their whole philosophy is lazy. Let's do a shock and sit back. That's what happens when you reserve your best stuff for people that are not regular wrestlers. Instead of having your regular players be over by themselves, they have no confidence in the guys they have, so they have HHH fix their problem cause he was part of the AE when people were great(!!!) but when he's gone the heat is gone. Management book their wrestlers like overbearing parents so the children will never be adults. And will never be taken seriously.
|
|
|
Post by G✇JI☈A on Sept 8, 2016 21:26:35 GMT -5
Vince: See Paul, I told you that fat ass won't draw as a champion.. HHH: But Vince th.. Vince: No excuses! Now get out of my office so I can write this highlarious proctology skit for the The Club/New Day feud!
|
|