Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 8, 2016 21:15:26 GMT -5
Never forget the greatest promo ever cut in the history of mankind Promo was fine for me... but something uncanny valley-ish about how often he blinks. There's another clue he's probably a lizard person. It was like he was trying to keep an army of tarantulas from bursting out of his eyes.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Sept 8, 2016 21:15:41 GMT -5
Never forget the greatest promo ever cut in the history of mankind .... yep
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 8, 2016 21:58:25 GMT -5
I said in another thread that he's like a mat wrestling version of a spot monkey, and I really do feel that way. He does all these reversals and holds seemingly just because he can, but to me it lacks the psychology you'd see out of guys like Dean Malenko or William Regal. I know because I haven't been watching him for years and have only seen him in the CWC that my viewpoint can ruffle some feathers, but it's just an honest first impression I've gotten from the guy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 22:17:49 GMT -5
His style will/would not go over well on the main roster, I can guarantee that.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Sept 8, 2016 22:53:04 GMT -5
I'll quote myself from another thread on ZSJ: I think that's his gimmick. He just casually tortures people. Plus all the interviews I've seen with him show him having a massive case of resting bitchface anyway, so that's probably just his default expression. I don't see why people think he doesn't sell anything. Maybe they didn't see him screaming in pain when taking the Champagne Super Kneebar, or the fact that he limped for the rest of the match instead of running every time he did more than 2 steps.
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Post by r. on Sept 8, 2016 23:02:56 GMT -5
This is one of those threads that gets used all the time in the "IWC is never happy" arguments.
Then again I was in a thread many moons ago in which the late great Tenta replied in, That dealt with the op having a problem with wrestlers and their foot wear or wrist tape, I forget which.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 8, 2016 23:15:03 GMT -5
He just honestly does nothing for me. Can't buy his look, his matches seem super choreographed and he just strings together cool looking technical wrestling instead of making something feel real. Gallagher upstaged him by being a British technician with a character & Gulak upstaged him by presenting himself as a mean son of a bitch.
edit: I mean have him work in the performance center with guys like Malenko, Regal & Finlay and he would be fine. All of them were great at telling a story in the ring and Regal was the master of facial expressions.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 9, 2016 0:00:01 GMT -5
Look guys, you shouldn't criticize wrestlers. It's not cool and these brave men and women go out of their way to destroy their bodies for our entertainment. Respect them. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go put some water Finn Balor's mama's bowl. {Spoiler} Personally, I think Zach Sabre Jr. is the shit and he had maybe the best match I saw all year last year against Chris Hero but I understand why other people might not be big on him.
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Post by Yacht Persona on Sept 9, 2016 0:28:21 GMT -5
Milkman joke aside, I have no issue with ZSJ. The only weakness I see is in his facial expressions, but otherwise I think he's a lot of fun to watch. He isn't like what I'm used to as a wrestling fan, so it's fresh to me. I think he's getting a lot of unjustified hate for someone that isn't even on the roster. It's not as if he's the second coming of Roman Reigns, a character we do have to deal with on a weekly basis that carries far more glaring flaws than ZSJ does.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 9, 2016 6:45:15 GMT -5
All I know is Regal and Finlay are not fans of him. ZSJ is actually bulkier than he was a couple of years ago. Back then, he had no muscle tone. Built like a preteen boy. For him to take the next step : he needs get more mass and work on emoting to the crowd. He's doing World of Sports but forgetting about engaging the audience. That is why folks are all in on the Gallagher's box social. He does what Zack does but with flair and showmanship.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 9, 2016 7:01:25 GMT -5
Never forget the greatest promo ever cut in the history of mankind You know what? I have to retract a previous statement about him having no facial expressions; he can do one, and that is the expression of "waking up at 3 AM and trying to look at his computer screen even though the light is hurting his eyes".
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Post by Jim Stansel on Sept 9, 2016 10:02:46 GMT -5
All I know is Regal and Finlay are not fans of him. ZSJ is actually bulkier than he was a couple of years ago. Back then, he had no muscle tone. Built like a preteen boy. For him to take the next step : he needs get more mass and work on emoting to the crowd. He's doing World of Sports but forgetting about engaging the audience. That is why folks are all in on the Gallagher's box social. He does what Zack does but with flair and showmanship. Wait...where is the regal and finlay hate from?
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Post by corndog on Sept 9, 2016 10:45:29 GMT -5
This is one of those threads that gets used all the time in the "IWC is never happy" arguments. Then again I was in a thread many moons ago in which the late great Tenta replied in, That dealt with the op having a problem with wrestlers and their foot wear or wrist tape, I forget which. Not really, the thread hating on the CWC as a whole should be used for that. Besides, Zack Sabre Jr. was hyped up to be our hero, only to fail. If anything the WWE asked for this to happen. At least the others they hyped like him, Kota Ibushi and TJ Perkins, have actually delivered. More good news is we all love Jack Gallagher and other members of the tournament, who are mostly signed. Also, the WWE should know by now, if you want the IWC to love someone, don't hype them and have them lose matches we think they should win. Unless the guy is just that good, like Shinsuke Nakamura. Only then, can you hype the shit out of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 10:50:04 GMT -5
All I know is Regal and Finlay are not fans of him. ZSJ is actually bulkier than he was a couple of years ago. Back then, he had no muscle tone. Built like a preteen boy. For him to take the next step : he needs get more mass and work on emoting to the crowd. He's doing World of Sports but forgetting about engaging the audience. That is why folks are all in on the Gallagher's box social. He does what Zack does but with flair and showmanship. Wait...where is the regal and finlay hate from? I don't know about Regal but Finlay tweeted about it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 9, 2016 11:31:50 GMT -5
maybe he prefers claymores
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 9, 2016 12:05:35 GMT -5
maybe he prefers claymores I admire your rapier like wit.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 9, 2016 12:24:45 GMT -5
maybe he prefers claymores Considering his previous gig as trainer of the divas, it's possible he prefers cutlasses.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 12:30:18 GMT -5
maybe he prefers claymores Considering his previous gig as trainer of the divas, it's possible he prefers cut lasses.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 9, 2016 12:35:15 GMT -5
Considering his previous gig as trainer of the divas, it's possible he prefers cut lasses. The image won't load for me but if it's anything other than Becky I am going to be disappointed in so many different directions.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Sept 9, 2016 12:43:20 GMT -5
The image won't load for me but if it's anything other than Becky I am going to be disappointed in so many different directions.
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