Zack Sabre Jr Pint Of Hatred Thread

[Perfect Timing]

I don't expect a lot of hate here but I welcome at least a PINT of hatred!

This guy annoys me....I really don't want to see him on RAW. Guy was speaking about Harry Potter in one of his CWC promos. Yeah, it's like Harry Potter/Prince William have shoved themselves down my throat. The man is bony as hell and wants to be William Regal but looks like a schoolboy playing wrestler.

[r.]

Tell me how you really feel.

[Jim Stansel]

Amen. He bores me to tears. I normally love a good technical wrestler but his style is so dry. Just no emotion to him. His personality is as well. Nothing about him screams star to me.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Bony? I like his build. I'd say as long as people aren't disgusted or horrified at seeing him in trunks, then it means his body's okay. It suits him and his wrestling style.

[percymania]

I wanna know who Zack Sabre Sr is. That is all.

[Slanted and Enchanted]

Zack Sabre Jr Pint Of Appreciation Thread:

His matches with Gulak and Dar were both incredible. He showed his versatility wrestling a more roughhouse affair with Gulak and human chess match with Dar. He's got a great look; resembles a young Tom Cruise. As for his physique, that's what the WWE PC is for. He also fulfills the needs of those who are either taken aback by the recent trend in reckless spots and/or those who hate the traditional WWE style; he is a very safe wrestler who can also bust out a thousand moves outside of the standard WWE playbook.

ZSJ should definitely main event the CWC against Ibushi.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Sept 8, 2016 12:35:01 GMT -5 percymania said:

I wanna know who Zack Sabre Sr is. That is all.

I tried googling it and no such person exists.

[Perfect Timing]

Sept 8, 2016 12:31:30 GMT -5 r. said:

Tell me how you really feel.

He's a poncy bonebag douche.

If you don't know what those words means look them up.

[Venti]

Saw some indy stuff of his, just bored me to death.

[Jim Stansel]

Sept 8, 2016 12:35:27 GMT -5 Slanted and Enchanted said:

Zack Sabre Jr Pint Of Appreciation Thread:

His matches with Gulak and Dar were both incredible. He showed his versatility wrestling a more roughhouse affair with Gulak and human chess match with Dar. He's got a great look; resembles a young Tom Cruise. As for his physique, that's what the WWE PC is for. He also fulfills the needs of those who are either taken aback by the recent trend in reckless spots and/or those who hate the traditional WWE style; he is a very safe wrestler who can also bust out a thousand moves outside of the standard WWE playbook.

ZSJ should definitely main event the CWC against Ibushi.

I just see no excitement in his offense. At least Regal looked brutal and trying to hurt you. ZSJ is literally a match killer for me. I try but find him hyper unrealistic. Its so slow and forced feeling.

[Heinz Doofenschmirtz]

He's been boring in the CWC but I assumed that was because he was asked to tone it down a bit. I went and watched his match with Swagsuke. It was just as boring. When you make Nakamura boring, you've really screwed up.

[Mayonnaise]

I'll quote myself from another thread on ZSJ:

He is a weird one to me. I won't deny he is talented but he doesn't seem to care. He just goes from one move to the next with no expression or anything to make me think what he is doing matters. Apply one hold, slide into the next, reversal and apply another all with the same blank face. Maybe that is supposed to be the gimmick or something but I don't get why I should care if he doesn't. Then the rare times he sells things, he's stops doing that after a bit. He sold that war with Dar great and the battle with Dar going for the leg and him the arm was great. Then he forgets all the leg work to use them to muscle in a submission.

I don't hate it but I sure don't get it either.

[Instant Classic]

Ain't nothing wrong with being bony.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Also plucking my quote from the CWC thread

The problem with "he's stoic and doesn't show any personality" is that that's not a wrestling character, that's an excuse. Giving a character "stoic" as their defining trait requires you to do something with that; it's the unstoppable monster who just isn't being challenged, or the straight man in a comedy duo. In his case, there should come a point where he's actually challenged and starts to show some emotion and suffering, and that should have been tonight, because the semi-finals is where you've narrowed it down to what should be the really hard-fought challenges across the board. He doesn't come off as aloof to me, he comes off as the wrestling equivalent of one of those unflappable anime characters who nothing effects and is like 5% smugly dismissive, 95% blandness. Even that point where he pulled his leg and spun away from a kick, he did it in a way that didn't feel like he had to do it to get the leg out of the way, it just came off nonchalant and like something he could easily have done earlier in the match if that setup for a kick had come up.

I can understand why some people might dig him, but personally, if the chips are down and a wrestler comes off almost like he doesn't give a shit, then why should I give one? I can't get behind a guy like that.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I'll bite.

He needs to wear some f***ing kneepads.

[Jim Stansel]

Sept 8, 2016 13:04:06 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Also plucking my quote from the CWC thread

The problem with "he's stoic and doesn't show any personality" is that that's not a wrestling character, that's an excuse. Giving a character "stoic" as their defining trait requires you to do something with that; it's the unstoppable monster who just isn't being challenged, or the straight man in a comedy duo. In his case, there should come a point where he's actually challenged and starts to show some emotion and suffering, and that should have been tonight, because the semi-finals is where you've narrowed it down to what should be the really hard-fought challenges across the board. He doesn't come off as aloof to me, he comes off as the wrestling equivalent of one of those unflappable anime characters who nothing effects and is like 5% smugly dismissive, 95% blandness. Even that point where he pulled his leg and spun away from a kick, he did it in a way that didn't feel like he had to do it to get the leg out of the way, it just came off nonchalant and like something he could easily have done earlier in the match if that setup for a kick had come up.

I can understand why some people might dig him, but personally, if the chips are down and a wrestler comes off almost like he doesn't give a shit, then why should I give one? I can't get behind a guy like that.

Exactly! I just can't buy in. As such why do I want to watch?

[FAR5222]

Dude looks like the biggest bitch. Stay in the indies you little bitch.

[Regal Stretch]

He's the best in the world of being a parody of a vanilla midget without the flippy shit. Void of charisma, makes the action look as choreographed as possible and needs to eat a few steaks.

[Abdullah]

I don't watch him on RAW but I do want him on NXT. I think he has a lot of potential and they could fix his bad habits in a pinch.

But the good news for those who don't like him: he doesn't seem to care about joining WWE.

[Raskovnik]

He's a fantastic wrestler who f***s himself over by being the technical version of a spot monkey. It's not impressive to go through a thousand holds a second, it just makes it look like you suck and can't hold on to anything you're doing. Plus he makes it look way too telegraphed, like his opponent is standing there mildly annoyed while this twink is like "Hold on dude, w-wait, hold on, this is gonna be really cool once I get it set up." All I want is for him to cool his jets, and put on some muscle mass or something. I think he could undergo a Tyler Black-esque transformation where all the raw talent is clearly there but he needs to learn how to keep himself in check and learn psychology.