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Post by Glitch on Oct 7, 2016 3:04:14 GMT -5
Specifically during the Hollywood/Wolfpac fued.(not the Hogan wants to be cool again nwo supergroup)
It looked liked this was gonna be an nwo civil war at first, but just turned into a small group versus the usual,same nwo. Nwo hollywood was pretty much the original nwo, just minus Nash,Macho, and Konnan. I can only think that they did this since nwo hollywood was already fight both wcw and wolfpac. And those two had sort of an unspoken alliance.
Then again, why anything happened in WCW is a mystery.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 7, 2016 3:08:40 GMT -5
I was just about to ask the most stupid question of which side was X-Pac on as I had forgotten... then I realised he had gone to the WWF at that point.
Who knows? I dont think they had any idea of what to do with it. I think the most logical way of doing this fued would have been to strip nWo Hollywood bare as well, chuck all of the excess rubbish out and repackage/rebuild them and do a small group vs a small group as your top angle. Because at that point the side hopping shit was done to death, its what killed the angle to begin with anyways.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 7, 2016 3:11:47 GMT -5
It's pretty hard for a tightly-knit anti-hero faction to really be effective if they out-number the opposition. That, and half of the members it did have ended up getting injured.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 7, 2016 4:11:08 GMT -5
It should have been booked like this:
Starrcade '97 - Hogan losing the title at Starrcade (Dont vacate it, let Sting keep it... WCW had an obsession with vacating the title, there was absolutely no need to do that) this starts to cause dissention in the ranks as thngs for the nWo are now falling apart.
Superbrawl '98 - Hollywood Hogan vs Bret Hart match, this is following Bret's interference at SC, Bret beats Hogan (yes we know this wouldnt happen in reality probably) when nWo interference backfires.
Then the follow up to this is the nWo implodes, the Wolfpac break off into thier own small group causing Bischoff and Hogan to regroup, they fire all of the B team crap and create their own small nWo Hollywood group. I guess the members of each team are subjective depending on what angles you want to run, but id put Hall and Nash on opposing sides to start a program and then for the rest of the year you have two small warring factions, while all of the excess leftover from the nWo can be repackaged or move onto other things, instead of being nWo lemmings. People like Curt Henning, Rick Rude so on and so forth could have benefited from being dissociated.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 7, 2016 5:10:40 GMT -5
I always wondered if Hall not being a Wolfpac member was a powerplay from Hogan, a way of showing both he and Nash who's boss and ensuring that he's not left as the only name guy in a faction packed with guys no-one cares about, like Horace and Vincent.
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Post by celtics543 on Oct 7, 2016 6:08:40 GMT -5
As a kid I didn't really get the whole Wolfpac thing. I didn't know if I was supposed to cheer or boo them, whether they were partners with the "real" nWo or what the deal was. To be fair though I was a WWF guy and was only like 9 when this whole thing was happening. I did like their music though and thought it was cool until Sting and Luger joined, that was just dumb.
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Post by chronocross on Oct 7, 2016 7:01:34 GMT -5
They did have a few more members in the beginning, it was Nash, Luger, Sting, Konnan, Savage and Hennig/Rude for a few months, then Hennig went back to nWo Hollywood and Savage got hurt the next night and was gone the rest of the year.
Then Sting was taken out by Bret Hart at Halloween Havoc and then it was down to just three, I didn't mind it as it didn't feel like they were all over the card like nWo Hollywood.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 7, 2016 7:06:15 GMT -5
Even though he had it for such a relatively small period, I always think of the Wolfpac theme as Kevin Nash's defining theme, in my head.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Oct 7, 2016 9:40:19 GMT -5
Maybe to rectify an earlier mistake of having too many guys. The members fans remember Nash, Macho, Luger and Stinga are an elite group of wrestlers and Konnan was very over at the time too.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 7, 2016 10:09:34 GMT -5
Maybe they realised that the problem with NWO was the stupid amount of people in it, so they kept the PAC smaller. I mean, they also kept the final incarnation down to about 4 people iirc
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 7, 2016 10:12:03 GMT -5
Even though he had it for such a relatively small period, I always think of the Wolfpac theme as Kevin Nash's defining theme, in my head. I'd say me too, but he also had the Kashmir ripoff theme in TNA which is his definitive solo theme for me.
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Post by lws on Oct 7, 2016 18:33:19 GMT -5
I agree with everyone who said there were way, way too many people in the black and white, so they had to keep it simple. The only other option was to have literally everyone join one of the two factions. And while I'm sure the crowd would have popped half the time, it hits a point where, who the f*** cares?
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Post by nickcave on Oct 7, 2016 19:35:26 GMT -5
Sting joining the Wolfpack as lobster faced Sting was such a stupid decision though. Sting should have never had an nWo affiliation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2016 19:42:04 GMT -5
Sting joining the Wolfpack as lobster faced Sting was such a stupid decision though. Sting should have never had an nWo affiliation. It was stupid, but not as stupid as him being allied with the black and white at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Oct 7, 2016 19:44:20 GMT -5
I always wondered if Hall not being a Wolfpac member was a powerplay from Hogan, a way of showing both he and Nash who's boss and ensuring that he's not left as the only name guy in a faction packed with guys no-one cares about, like Horace and Vincent. I think I've heard Kevin Sullivan say that this is basically exactly the reason. Hogan wanted Hall to make him look cooler.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 7, 2016 22:20:05 GMT -5
Sting joining the Wolfpack as lobster faced Sting was such a stupid decision though. Sting should have never had an nWo affiliation. Same with Luger.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 8, 2016 2:25:07 GMT -5
Sting joining the Wolfpack as lobster faced Sting was such a stupid decision though. Sting should have never had an nWo affiliation. Same with Luger. Not as bad as Luger being in the Dungeon of Doom with the Yetaaaay and Zodiac.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 8, 2016 3:07:15 GMT -5
Even though he had it for such a relatively small period, I always think of the Wolfpac theme as Kevin Nash's defining theme, in my head. Didn't he keep it from 1998 until WCW folded in 2001?
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Post by Glitch on Oct 8, 2016 4:54:30 GMT -5
I was just about to ask the most stupid question of which side was X-Pac on as I had forgotten... then I realised he had gone to the WWF at that point. If Syxx would have not been let go, the logical thing would have been for him to join Wolfpac to fill the void left by Hall at Nash's side................so that means wcw would have made Syxx part of nwo Hollywood.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Oct 8, 2016 11:31:03 GMT -5
Hall betraying Nash (ugh), Syxx leaving and Savage getting injured lead to a small stable and needing Sting/Luger (which made no sense of course) to fill up the Wolfpack with name talent
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