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Post by BRV on Oct 29, 2016 20:19:44 GMT -5
Over in the MLB thread, there's a debate about the Chicago Cubs and how much of a "championship window" the team has, that even if they lose this year's World Series, they have enough young talent on their roster to be right back in the thick of it for the next half-decade.
But what if they don't? What if it's 2026 and the championship drought is at 118 years and Cubs fans are left wondering how they never won one in the mid-2010s?
So that got me to thinking, what are some of the great dynasties that never were? These could be teams that won one championship and never reached that achievement again (the late-1980s New York Mets) or teams that always had a ton of hype at the start of the season but for one reason or another never met expectations (the Houston Oilers of the early 1990s).
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 29, 2016 20:32:38 GMT -5
How about the late 90's Mariners. They had Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey, A-Rod and Edgar Martínez.
Some good talent on those teams
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 29, 2016 20:52:16 GMT -5
UNLV basketball.
They were supposed to be a huge program, possibly even on the level of Wooden's Bruins, but they weren't even close. They won it all one year, and got back to the Final Four with an undefeated record, only to fall to Duke, and have everything come crashing down.
Don't call a team a potential dynasty if they've won 1 title, because a lot of teams have won 1 in a row.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 21:47:51 GMT -5
The San Diego Chargers of the past decade were always touted as one of the best teams in the AFC, and yet come playoff time failed to deliver.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 2:35:51 GMT -5
If it wasn't for Edmonton, Calgary, and NYI running the NHL in the 80's. The Bruins, Flyers, and Montreal could of been dynasties. They ran the Eastern Conference just like how The Oilers and Flames ran The Western Conference.
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Post by sfvega on Oct 30, 2016 3:51:15 GMT -5
The 2001 Hurricanes were the best CFB team ever. They were obscenely loaded, and the next year only lost a double OT heartbreaker to an OSU team with a golden horseshoe up it's ass. Then, Brock Berlin, Coker just not being a very good coach, and they just faded into obscurity.
The 99 Rams were all set to be a force for years and years. They only went back to one SB, which they lost. Pace, Faulk (and in 04 Jackson), Bruce, Holt, etc stayed there for a while, but they gave up on Warner a little early for Bulger who was an average QB. The real detriment was Vermeil quitting almost immediately after winning the SB. Also, regretting it almost immediately after quitting. That man is a real prisoner to his emotions.
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Post by kevin on Oct 30, 2016 6:28:10 GMT -5
When I think of this I think of the mid 90's Magic. They were supposed to be a dominate team with a young great nucleus and it all ended with just one Finals were they got swept.
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Post by Fundertaker on Oct 30, 2016 6:36:57 GMT -5
How about the late 90's Mariners. They had Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey, A-Rod and Edgar Martínez. Some good talent on those teams And then in 2001 got the record for most wins on a regular season without Jr., A-Rod and Big Unit, instead having Ichiro, Bret Boone and Kaz Sazaki.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 9:17:24 GMT -5
Milwaukee Braves, 1953-60. Their first year in Beer City, they won 92 games, a 28-game improvement from the previous year in Boston. (The worst team in this 8 year window, 1955, still finished with 85 wins.) They won it all in 1957, went up 3-1 against the Yankees in '58 before dropping the Series in 7, and lost a Best-of-3 playoff to the Dodgers in '59 (they tied at 86 wins apiece), 2 games to none. 1960, they won 88 games and finished 2nd behind Pittsburgh. The hitting was there (Aaron, Mathews, Adcock, etc.) but the pitching fell off by then. Even Spahn looked mortal by 1964, his last year as a Brave.
Or, if you want to go football, I seem to recall Kansas City was everybody's dynasty waiting to happen in the early 1990s.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Oct 30, 2016 10:45:31 GMT -5
80s into 90s Broncos. They choked in three super bowls in epic fashion. Elways is probably the most ovverated QB ever but those teams puked all over themeelves
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Post by Wailord Man on Oct 30, 2016 13:36:11 GMT -5
Im going to throw out the Braves from the 90s. When you have 3 HOF pitchers, a future HOFer in Chipper Jones and Fred McGriff the crime dog and you only manage 1 WS title, its stunning. Granted they ran into that 1990s Yankees dynasty twice. But that doesnt excuse the NLCS lose to the Marlins in 97. Because if they win that they most likly beat the Indians and if you win 2 rings in 3 seasons then those teams don't look like such a let down.
Also The Bills from the early 90s has to be mentioned 4 STRAIGHT SB appearances and no ring to show for it. The franchise still hasn't recovered since then.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 30, 2016 13:56:39 GMT -5
This is fringe, but Harbaugh's 49ers. 3 NFC championship games in a row, almost a Super Bowl win, all very winnable (though TBH, I don't remember the third NFC championship game. I remember the SB (if only Crabtree was a few inches taller, and Fxxx you forever Baltimore) and the NYGiants game (Fxxx you, Kyle Williams).
The moron owner then listens to his awful GM and fires Harbaugh because Harbaugh is a strange duck who's not a perfect little soldier. The rest is history.
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Post by MrElijah on Oct 30, 2016 14:30:56 GMT -5
When I think of this I think of the mid 90's Magic. They were supposed to be a dominate team with a young great nucleus and it all ended with just one Finals were they got swept. I wonder how the 90s would have gone with no Jordan. Me and my friends call him Dream Killer due to how many hopes he crushed.
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Post by The_Don_Mecha on Oct 30, 2016 17:24:59 GMT -5
This is fringe, but Harbaugh's 49ers. 3 NFC championship games in a row, almost a Super Bowl win, all very winnable (though TBH, I don't remember the third NFC championship game. I remember the SB (if only Crabtree was a few inches taller, and Fxxx you forever Baltimore) and the NYGiants game (Fxxx you, Kyle Williams). The moron owner then listens to his awful GM and fires Harbaugh because Harbaugh is a strange duck who's not a perfect little soldier. The rest is history. Sad but true. My nominations: the 00s Pistons. 6 straight conference finals, 2 finals appearances and one O'Brien trophy to show for it. Although they ran into some great teams in order to do that...
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Post by sfvega on Oct 30, 2016 18:13:34 GMT -5
This is fringe, but Harbaugh's 49ers. 3 NFC championship games in a row, almost a Super Bowl win, all very winnable (though TBH, I don't remember the third NFC championship game. I remember the SB (if only Crabtree was a few inches taller, and Fxxx you forever Baltimore) and the NYGiants game (Fxxx you, Kyle Williams). The moron owner then listens to his awful GM and fires Harbaugh because Harbaugh is a strange duck who's not a perfect little soldier. The rest is history. Sad but true. My nominations: the 00s Pistons. 6 straight conference finals, 2 finals appearances and one O'Brien trophy to show for it. Although they ran into some great teams in order to do that... It's crazy to think how great they played together, how clutch they were, and how they took down the first "super team" and still only won that one title.
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Post by BRV on Oct 30, 2016 18:36:25 GMT -5
This is fringe, but Harbaugh's 49ers. 3 NFC championship games in a row, almost a Super Bowl win, all very winnable (though TBH, I don't remember the third NFC championship game. I remember the SB (if only Crabtree was a few inches taller, and Fxxx you forever Baltimore) and the NYGiants game (Fxxx you, Kyle Williams). The moron owner then listens to his awful GM and fires Harbaugh because Harbaugh is a strange duck who's not a perfect little soldier. The rest is history. Whether it's in the form of a 30 for 30 or in a tell-all book, somebody someday is going to tell the tale of how the Harbaugh 49ers went belly-up and it's going to be a fascinating story. From 2011-2013, they realistically could have won three straight Super Bowls, they just ran into bad luck in 2011 (Kyle Williams fumbling a punt in overtime) and bad decisions in 2012 (a horrendous series of play calls dooms them inside the Ravens' 5 in Super Bowl XLVII) and 2013 (Colin Kaepernick ignores several open receivers to lob a 50/50 ball in the direction of the best cornerback in the league). Then in 2014, after starting 7-4, they lose four of their final five games to miss the playoffs and the wheels totally come off in 2015 and 2016, with no sign of hope anywhere in the short- or long-term future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 19:01:16 GMT -5
Shame the Milwaukee Bucks of the 1980s never made it to an NBA Finals. They were really good. (They just happened to be good when the Celtics or Sixers were better.)
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 30, 2016 19:03:02 GMT -5
This begins and ends with the 90-93 Bills
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 30, 2016 21:00:22 GMT -5
90s Braves. They got one, but for as good as those teams were, shoulda had at least 3.
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Post by No Name is needed Bro Beans on Oct 30, 2016 21:11:04 GMT -5
49ers of the 90s made the championship game in 90 92 93 94 and 97 but only got the 94 super bowl ring
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