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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 19, 2016 8:15:23 GMT -5
Or just be a huge star in a place like Japan or Mexico.
Who you got?
I think Ziggler has to leave at some point. Dude is just spinning his wheels there. Could be huge in NJPW or ROH for a couple years then pull a Brock and return to a big money contract.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Dec 19, 2016 8:16:39 GMT -5
Swagger
WWE seem to see value as him as a jobber but I can see him leaving next year and heading to Japan.
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Post by Rican on Dec 19, 2016 8:32:43 GMT -5
Ziggler will be gone by Summerslam. He's already probably quite comfortable financially so the money would be easier for him to walk away from.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2016 8:36:58 GMT -5
I feel that if Ziggler left, he'd just go do his standup or try to get acting gigs.
Probably Hunico to Mexico if he doesn't stay out of trouble.
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Post by vincecornette on Dec 19, 2016 10:53:46 GMT -5
Has anyone ever left WWE and succeeded in the indies?
I know it depends on what you classify as success. Obviously they will not make as much money. But they may go and win a title elsewhere, but is that title really worth more than a mid card WWE title? Even if you class TNA as an indy, many WWE start have left gone to TNA had instant titles or huge wins, but still all feel like consolation prizes.
Can they make a living? Sure, but I bet in their heart of hearts they are disappointed they couldn't make it in WWE. Even someone like Cody Rhodes who asked for his release must still feel the frustration of never really getting over in WWE and feel like his career is somewhat of a failure.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2016 11:28:29 GMT -5
Swagger WWE seem to see value as him as a jobber but I can see him leaving next year and heading to Japan. I think they do see potential in Swagger but can never seem to capitalize on it. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 19, 2016 11:29:47 GMT -5
Swagger. In Japan he'd probably be seen as a damn ring general.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2016 11:31:27 GMT -5
Has anyone ever left WWE and succeeded in the indies? I know it depends on what you classify as success. Obviously they will not make as much money. But they may go and win a title elsewhere, but is that title really worth more than a mid card WWE title? Even if you class TNA as an indy, many WWE start have left gone to TNA had instant titles or huge wins, but still all feel like consolation prizes. Can they make a living? Sure, but I bet in their heart of hearts they are disappointed they couldn't make it in WWE. Even someone like Cody Rhodes who asked for his release must still feel the frustration of never really getting over in WWE and feel like his career is somewhat of a failure. It depends, and sometimes they make their way back. Like, BJ Whitmer probably doesn't yearn for the days of Gunner Scott, but that is real low on the totem pole. Lashley might feel better off, but he has TNA and Bellator, so he probably is paid considerably better than most. |
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Post by fw91 on Dec 19, 2016 11:40:45 GMT -5
Tyler Breeze
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 19, 2016 11:45:18 GMT -5
Has anyone ever left WWE and succeeded in the indies? I know it depends on what you classify as success. Obviously they will not make as much money. But they may go and win a title elsewhere, but is that title really worth more than a mid card WWE title? Even if you class TNA as an indy, many WWE start have left gone to TNA had instant titles or huge wins, but still all feel like consolation prizes. Can they make a living? Sure, but I bet in their heart of hearts they are disappointed they couldn't make it in WWE. Even someone like Cody Rhodes who asked for his release must still feel the frustration of never really getting over in WWE and feel like his career is somewhat of a failure. Chris Masters |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 12:37:49 GMT -5
Man, Swagger in ROH/New Japan would be killer.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 19, 2016 14:04:39 GMT -5
The Ascension.
They have the perfect mix of what could translate to it:
Low enough on the totem pole to likely be on the chopping block.
Had small enough of a WWE run that you could make an argument they were "held back" by WWE a bit.
They have a perfect mix for a sustained indy career: Their long NXT run gave them just enough street cred so they could probably get at least a look from the major indies, they have the look and power wrestling style that'd probably make them get really over in Japan, and they have dark, brooding, gothic characters (which tend to do fairly well in Mexico.)
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 19, 2016 14:09:42 GMT -5
Has anyone ever left WWE and succeeded in the indies? I know it depends on what you classify as success. Obviously they will not make as much money. But they may go and win a title elsewhere, but is that title really worth more than a mid card WWE title? Even if you class TNA as an indy, many WWE start have left gone to TNA had instant titles or huge wins, but still all feel like consolation prizes. Can they make a living? Sure, but I bet in their heart of hearts they are disappointed they couldn't make it in WWE. Even someone like Cody Rhodes who asked for his release must still feel the frustration of never really getting over in WWE and feel like his career is somewhat of a failure. It depends, and sometimes they make their way back. Like, BJ Whitmer probably doesn't yearn for the days of Gunner Scott, but that is real low on the totem pole. Lashley might feel better off, but he has TNA and Bellator, so he probably is paid considerably better than most. Good, because it would be weird for BJ to yearn being Brent Albright. |
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Dec 19, 2016 14:12:49 GMT -5
Has anyone ever left WWE and succeeded in the indies? I know it depends on what you classify as success. Obviously they will not make as much money. But they may go and win a title elsewhere, but is that title really worth more than a mid card WWE title? Even if you class TNA as an indy, many WWE start have left gone to TNA had instant titles or huge wins, but still all feel like consolation prizes. Can they make a living? Sure, but I bet in their heart of hearts they are disappointed they couldn't make it in WWE. Even someone like Cody Rhodes who asked for his release must still feel the frustration of never really getting over in WWE and feel like his career is somewhat of a failure. It depends, and sometimes they make their way back. Like, BJ Whitmer probably doesn't yearn for the days of Gunner Scott, but that is real low on the totem pole. Brent Albright was Gunner Scott. ETA: Missed by seconds. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2016 14:13:29 GMT -5
It depends, and sometimes they make their way back. Like, BJ Whitmer probably doesn't yearn for the days of Gunner Scott, but that is real low on the totem pole. Lashley might feel better off, but he has TNA and Bellator, so he probably is paid considerably better than most. Good, because it would be weird for BJ to yearn being Brent Albright. Ah, f***, I always mix them up, not even sure why. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2016 14:14:52 GMT -5
The Ascension. They have the perfect mix of what could translate to it: Low enough on the totem pole to likely be on the chopping block. Had small enough of a WWE run that you could make an argument they were "held back" by WWE a bit. They have a perfect mix for a sustained indy career: Their long NXT run gave them just enough street cred so they could probably get at least a look from the major indies, they have the look and power wrestling style that'd probably make them get really over in Japan, and they have dark, brooding, gothic characters (which tend to do fairly well in Mexico.) I can't help but think someone in power really likes the Ascension. At least enough to keep them around. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2016 14:16:11 GMT -5
Good, because it would be weird for BJ to yearn being Brent Albright. Ah, f***, I always mix them up, not even sure why. Clearly BJ Whitmer really thought the Gunner Scott gimmick had legs and it was a shame Albright got released so quickly  |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 19, 2016 14:17:49 GMT -5
Juice Robinson could be a good example of someone who found greener pastures after leaving the WWE for NJPW and has improved a ton as a result as well.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 19, 2016 14:26:54 GMT -5
Good, because it would be weird for BJ to yearn being Brent Albright. Ah, f***, I always mix them up, not even sure why. Honestly thought Albright was gonna be a big star. I wonder what happened with him. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 14:27:47 GMT -5
Even though it looks like things are turning around for him I'm still not convinced that Cesaro's not one bad booking away from taking off and setting indie wrestling on fire. But otherwise I would agree with others that Swagger is prime for an indie reinvention.
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