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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 18, 2017 12:16:05 GMT -5
I hate to say it but I think this film could use a big name director. I don't mean Michael Bay. But a director that WB can't push around or intimidate which is why I am not solely against Gibson directing Suicide Squad 2. The Batman could use a strong and powerful director that WB will hesitate in attempting to piss off. But I am wondering what happens if Wonder Woman and Justice League are huge hits? Hitchcock could come back from the grave and offer to direct but from everything I've read, WB wouldn't even give him final cut so it wouldn't matter. They're going to meddle with the franchise until it's dead.
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Post by montee916 on Feb 18, 2017 16:09:22 GMT -5
Hitchcock could come back from the grave and offer to direct but from everything I've read, WB wouldn't even give him final cut so it wouldn't matter. They're going to meddle with the franchise until it's dead. Which, at the rate they're going, should be around 2:30 Wednesday afternoon.
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Post by chrom on Feb 18, 2017 17:07:51 GMT -5
Jesus, just get Bruce Timm. He'd be cheaper, he's been working for WB for nearly 3 decades, and he's got an incredibly successful track record with Batman. Plenty of directors have made the jump from animation to live action, so he should at least be considered. 15 years ago I'd say yeah, but with his obsession with making Bruce and Barbara together as of late and how bad The Killing Joke was, I'd say no on him.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 18, 2017 17:17:46 GMT -5
Jesus, just get Bruce Timm. He'd be cheaper, he's been working for WB for nearly 3 decades, and he's got an incredibly successful track record with Batman. Plenty of directors have made the jump from animation to live action, so he should at least be considered. No. Bruce Timm is past his prime, and he's an old creep trying to force Bruce and Barbara to be a thing. He's gross and I don't want to hear from him ever again.
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Post by Jiren on Feb 18, 2017 17:21:38 GMT -5
Jesus, just get Bruce Timm. He'd be cheaper, he's been working for WB for nearly 3 decades, and he's got an incredibly successful track record with Batman. Plenty of directors have made the jump from animation to live action, so he should at least be considered. 15 years ago I'd say yeah, but with his obsession with making Bruce and Barbara together as of late and how bad The Killing Joke was, I'd say no on him. Bruce Timm would be fine if they give him a "NO shipping BRUCE/BARBARA" rule. Killing Joke was an atrocity but I think Timm deserves some slack since his track record has been brilliant besides KJ
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 18, 2017 17:23:23 GMT -5
15 years ago I'd say yeah, but with his obsession with making Bruce and Barbara together as of late and how bad The Killing Joke was, I'd say no on him. Bruce Timm would be fine if they give him a "NO shipping BRUCE/BARBARA" rule. Killing Joke was an atrocity but I think Timm deserves some slack since his track record has been brilliant besides KJ You mean like Mystery of the Batwoman, where Bruce was dodging calls from that college girl he was dating, what was her name? Barbara Gordon? Yeah, pass on Mr. Timm. Dude also completely neglects Nightwing doing anything. So hard pass on him.
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Post by Jiren on Feb 18, 2017 17:25:23 GMT -5
Bruce Timm would be fine if they give him a "NO shipping BRUCE/BARBARA" rule. Killing Joke was an atrocity but I think Timm deserves some slack since his track record has been brilliant besides KJ You mean like Mystery of the Batwoman, where Bruce was dodging calls from that college girl he was dating, what was her name? Barbara Gordon? Yeah, pass on Mr. Timm. Hence "NO shipping BRUCE/BARBARA" rule. But it's hard to find someone who can control things well. How about Kevin Smith?, He doesn't have to direct just play a Kevin Fiege role
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 18, 2017 17:26:26 GMT -5
You mean like Mystery of the Batwoman, where Bruce was dodging calls from that college girl he was dating, what was her name? Barbara Gordon? Yeah, pass on Mr. Timm. Hence "NO shipping BRUCE/BARBARA" rule. He put it into a movie that completely ruined it. The rule isn't enough. Keeping him away from Bat related projects is the only solution.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 18, 2017 18:17:35 GMT -5
Now it's getting frustrating. Just scrap everything and start from scratch. Focus on a JL TV series or something, so this universe can gain some footing. Say what you will about the tone of the MCU, but when they started development, they played a better long-term game and slowly built the connections between the characters and their narratives. Marvel when setting up their movies had final say. DC Don't, Warner Brothers do. Despite being owned by the same company they are not the same entity. I hate to say it but I think this film could use a big name director. I don't mean Michael Bay. But a director that WB can't push around or intimidate which is why I am not solely against Gibson directing Suicide Squad 2. The Batman could use a strong and powerful director that WB will hesitate in attempting to piss off. But I am wondering what happens if Wonder Woman and Justice League are huge hits? They had one from the jump in Ben Afleck and looked what happened. Yeah, Ben IS a big name director... they pushed him around until he said f*** it and left the directors chair and it's now up in the air if he'll even play the lead anymore. Seems talks broke down because Reeves wants more power and WB doesn't want to give it up but if their recent releases are anything are to go by they DO want to let you down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:32:15 GMT -5
Now it's getting frustrating. Just scrap everything and start from scratch. Focus on a JL TV series or something, so this universe can gain some footing. Say what you will about the tone of the MCU, but when they started development, they played a better long-term game and slowly built the connections between the characters and their narratives. Marvel when setting up their movies had final say. DC Don't, Warner Brothers do. Despite being owned by the same company they are not the same entity. They had one from the jump in Ben Afleck and looked what happened. Yeah, Ben IS a big name director... they pushed him around until he said f*** it and left the directors chair and it's now up in the air if he'll even play the lead anymore. Seems talks broke down because Reeves wants more power and WB doesn't want to give it up but if their recent releases are anything are to go by they DO want to let you down. Yeah The Thor franchise so far has been the biggest negative example of Marvel fiddling with the final cut and giving directors a bad experience or Joss Whedon with Avengers 2. And that's the worst example that's pretty damn good. But yeah they play favorites for sure like they pretty much let James Gunn do whatever the f*** he wants with Guardians as long he follows the established rules of where the story is suppose to go in setting up Infinity Wars. In other words Warner needs to let directors have more power, establish where the rules and where they want the finished story to go instead of butchering the movie in the cutting room like they did with Suicide Squad. And they have to play favorites better for sure. Aka more James Gunn's and less Zack Snyder's.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 18, 2017 23:59:29 GMT -5
With Killing Joke, my issue wasn't so much the fact that they shipped Bruce/Barbara so much as I felt it was badly constructed. Early on they try to establish sort of a mentor and apprentice dynamic between Batman and Batgirl, then SURPRISE sex under a statue! It was jarring, and it made Babs look needy and immature.
At least in Lego Batman, Babs and Bruce were presented as being equally capable.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Feb 19, 2017 0:41:49 GMT -5
Seems talks broke down because Reeves wants more power and WB doesn't want to give it up This doesn't sound that different from how Marvel operates.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 19, 2017 0:44:07 GMT -5
Bring back Tim Burton. Let him direct a movie featuring old Bruce (Michael Keaton) handing over the reigns to a new Batman.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Feb 19, 2017 1:14:46 GMT -5
Why not get the director who did John Wick 2?
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Feb 19, 2017 11:17:20 GMT -5
Bring back Tim Burton. Let him direct a movie featuring old Bruce (Michael Keaton) handing over the reigns to a new Batman. Basically, Batman Beyond. I'm perfectly OK with that idea.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 12:19:03 GMT -5
Bring back Tim Burton. Let him direct a movie featuring old Bruce (Michael Keaton) handing over the reigns to a new Batman. Any chance we can get that Nicolas Cage Superman movie too?
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Post by y4j1981 on Feb 19, 2017 12:25:57 GMT -5
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 19, 2017 15:31:32 GMT -5
I'm kind of wondering who WB could even get to direct The Batman when it's pretty well-known by now that they want a stooge who does exactly what they say. I mean, who would willingly go for that, especially for a failing franchise?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 15:53:28 GMT -5
Bruce / Barbara kind of creeps me out and is something I think is pretty stupid for them to keep revisiting, but honestly in general Barbara as a character just doesn't really do it for me, at least as Batgirl. I think she's infinitely more interesting and useful as Oracle.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Feb 19, 2017 15:53:31 GMT -5
I'm kind of wondering who WB could even get to direct The Batman when it's pretty well-known by now that they want a stooge who does exactly what they say. I mean, who would willingly go for that, especially for a failing franchise? This doesn't sound that different from how Marvel operates.
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