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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 26, 2017 7:08:02 GMT -5
They ever going to do another episode? Hopefully they're either trying to get Heyman to tone it down, or find somebody to take his place.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 27, 2017 14:13:39 GMT -5
They ever going to do another episode? Rosenberg will be at the Rumble so maybe they'll be taping another episode this weekend.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 13, 2017 23:13:06 GMT -5
Well, they had another episode with Graves in for Heyman. JBL going off on Ranallo was funny, but if you're not into the hot takes about the booking, then nothing really changed there.
Next episode will be on Thursday of WrestleMania week.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 13, 2017 23:52:17 GMT -5
Well, they had another episode with Graves in for Heyman. JBL going off on Ranallo was funny, but if you're not into the hot takes about the booking, then nothing really changed there. Next episode will be on Thursday of WrestleMania week. I liked that Corey didn't hold back that he didn't think Shane/Styles was a good idea, at the very least. And seeing Vince in that brief clip from the upcoming WWE24 thing...no wonder he chooses not to appear on TV as much before. He's starting to really look his age.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Mar 14, 2017 3:39:17 GMT -5
JBL should have some goddamn dignity and refuse to spew Vince's words like a puppet (with Corey doing the same sometimes), it's getting ridiculous
Saying the roster doesn't draw so they have to rely on 50 year old legends is a slap to the face. If I was Ambrose or Cesaro I'd let him and Vince have it
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Post by eJm on Mar 14, 2017 9:02:24 GMT -5
JBL should have some goddamn dignity and refuse to spew Vince's words like a puppet (with Corey doing the same sometimes), it's getting ridiculous Saying the roster doesn't draw so they have to rely on 50 year old legends is a slap to the face. If I was Ambrose or Cesaro I'd let him and Vince have it Was that seriously said? Do they have no awareness of why that might be? Like...damn...
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Mar 14, 2017 10:01:14 GMT -5
JBL should have some goddamn dignity and refuse to spew Vince's words like a puppet (with Corey doing the same sometimes), it's getting ridiculous Saying the roster doesn't draw so they have to rely on 50 year old legends is a slap to the face. If I was Ambrose or Cesaro I'd let him and Vince have it Was that seriously said? Do they have no awareness of why that might be? Like...damn... via hidden message (puffpiece): JBL (aka Vince's surrogate) said they have such great talent right now but Attitude Era didn't need old stars because everyone wanted the Austins/Rocks/Takers...and now people want 50 year old Goldberg, so they get him. He clearly worded it like that to make the current crop of talent look like nondraws without actually saying it Quite from the report on 411mania.com: He then takes a shot at the current roster when talking about a 50 year old man being Champion. He says that wasn’t needed in the Attitude Era because they had superstars like Austin and Rock. Today they have stars, but Goldberg still draws. For as good as JBL is on Legends, he is horrible spewing some of this stuff on this show. He doesn’t mention why nobody is allowed to get over like the part timers.
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Post by eJm on Mar 14, 2017 10:35:48 GMT -5
Was that seriously said? Do they have no awareness of why that might be? Like...damn... via hidden message (puffpiece): JBL (aka Vince's surrogate) said they have such great talent right now but Attitude Era didn't need old stars because everyone wanted the Austins/Rocks/Takers...and now people want 50 year old Goldberg, so they get him. He clearly worded it like that to make the current crop of talent look like nondraws without actually saying it Quite from the report on 411mania.com: He then takes a shot at the current roster when talking about a 50 year old man being Champion. He says that wasn’t needed in the Attitude Era because they had superstars like Austin and Rock. Today they have stars, but Goldberg still draws. For as good as JBL is on Legends, he is horrible spewing some of this stuff on this show. He doesn’t mention why nobody is allowed to get over like the part timers. Technically, 2K wanted Goldberg to put as DLC in the latest WWE game. WWE just happened to make a deal to make that happen. So it wasn't even the fans that demanded Goldberg, it was the same token as having Suicide as a real character in the Impact Zone to promote a video game except Goldberg was a real person. Like...Jeez...
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 14, 2017 13:32:10 GMT -5
Yeah like, the only time you ever heard chants for Goldberg was when Ryback was first starting out and he looked kind of similar. I doubt many people legitimately wanted another Goldberg run, let alone a world championship run. I liked too how Corey Graves kind of brushed aside the question when asked whether he thought fans would negatively react at WrestleMania to Lesnar vs. Goldberg. I know he's not going to say anything to criticize the match, but that they seem to recognize the potential for it despite claiming this is what fans want is funny to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 17:11:25 GMT -5
Honestly the thing that bugged me was JBL defending the horrible booking of Daniel Bryan in 2013. Saying we weren't holding him back, he was featured in tons of main events, all in the main storylines, constantly looked strong, what else more do you want? Well Jeez I don't know maybe as the f***ing guy. The top Main Eventer or at least a 1B spot to John Cena's 1A.
Like I sort of get the argument that the new guys aren't drawing in much as the old guys did but with shit stubborn set in your ways booking then it isn't really a surprise. Like the only guy that seemed comfortable to tell Vince f*** You, "Put me in the top" or I'm leaving was CM Punk which got him his massive 2011 push and spot in the upper tier. And he did leave in 2014 when he wasn't going to mainevent at Wrestlemania so he wasn't bluffing. I wish Daniel Bryan at the time or someone like Dean Ambrose or Kevin Owens or whoever can do that.
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Post by Chestnutrice on Mar 14, 2017 17:36:20 GMT -5
Honestly the thing that bugged me was JBL defending the horrible booking of Daniel Bryan in 2013. Saying we weren't holding him back, he was featured in tons of main events, all in the main storylines, constantly looked strong, what else more do you want? Well Jeez I don't know maybe as the f***ing guy. The top Main Eventer or at least a 1B spot to John Cena's 1A. Like I sort of get the argument that the new guys aren't drawing in much as the old guys did but with shit stubborn set in your ways booking then it isn't really a surprise. Like the only guy that seemed comfortable to tell Vince f*** You, "Put me in the top" or I'm leaving was CM Punk which got him his massive 2011 push and spot in the upper tier. And he did leave in 2014 when he wasn't going to mainevent at Wrestlemania so he wasn't bluffing. I wish Daniel Bryan at the time or someone like Dean Ambrose or Kevin Owens or whoever can do that. There's a thread on the WWE page about how the backstage seems complacent these days, and that makes it better. But, I think part of the problem is that the roster seems completely comfortable with the stupid shit WWE puts them through. I mean, Punk was a headcase, but he fought for the shit he rightfully deserved, and when they denied them it, he told them to f*** off and left. Same with Cody, he's wrestling average matches, but he seems way happier on the Indies, and controlling his bookings. Daniel was lucky enough that they pretty much had to push him because Punk left. I think had Punk stayed, Bryan would've stayed shut about his spot on the card and that would've been horrible for his career.
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Post by eJm on Mar 14, 2017 19:01:27 GMT -5
Honestly the thing that bugged me was JBL defending the horrible booking of Daniel Bryan in 2013. Saying we weren't holding him back, he was featured in tons of main events, all in the main storylines, constantly looked strong, what else more do you want? Well Jeez I don't know maybe as the f***ing guy. The top Main Eventer or at least a 1B spot to John Cena's 1A. Like I sort of get the argument that the new guys aren't drawing in much as the old guys did but with shit stubborn set in your ways booking then it isn't really a surprise. Like the only guy that seemed comfortable to tell Vince f*** You, "Put me in the top" or I'm leaving was CM Punk which got him his massive 2011 push and spot in the upper tier. And he did leave in 2014 when he wasn't going to mainevent at Wrestlemania so he wasn't bluffing. I wish Daniel Bryan at the time or someone like Dean Ambrose or Kevin Owens or whoever can do that. There's a thread on the WWE page about how the backstage seems complacent these days, and that makes it better. But, I think part of the problem is that the roster seems completely comfortable with the stupid shit WWE puts them through. I mean, Punk was a headcase, but he fought for the shit he rightfully deserved, and when they denied them it, he told them to f*** off and left. Same with Cody, he's wrestling average matches, but he seems way happier on the Indies, and controlling his bookings. Daniel was lucky enough that they pretty much had to push him because Punk left. I think had Punk stayed, Bryan would've stayed shut about his spot on the card and that would've been horrible for his career. I think the big reason for that is that if they don't accept everything the team gives them 100%, they're fearful about their own position on the roster or even in the company. I mean, look at how quickly WWE threw Charlotte under the bus after they had Paige rip into her brother who committed suicide. Instead of saying "Yeah, we did something wrong and we apologise" it was "CHARLOTTE TOLD US TO DO IT, BLAME HER!" And most of the guys on that roster probably feel that either they are going to try and make as much realistic money as they can before settling outside the business or know they can't get a sustainable indie career if WWE get rid of them.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 26, 2017 4:14:47 GMT -5
This is a terrible show. It seems like it's meant for the internet fans, but it's also squarely against them and their criticisms of the product. It seems like a show that Vince made just to tell the fans that They're wrong! They're wrong! They're f***ing WRONG! He's gonna! He's gonna puke! He's gonna puke! He's gonna puuuuuke!
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 30, 2017 19:17:47 GMT -5
New episode happening right now, Graves already throwing shade on his own show by mentioning how SmackDown's women are better than RAW's because "he's not seeing the same four women over and over".
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 30, 2017 19:49:30 GMT -5
These shows are pretty good until the "the fans are wrong" segment. Embarrassing really.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 30, 2017 22:10:26 GMT -5
There's always something slightly demoralizing when fans are told that they're wrong to boo someone on a show meant for fans. How about you just mute everyone and add in piped in cheers like you used to do for SmackDown if it's such a concern and you're not going to fix the problem.
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Post by Racksman on Mar 30, 2017 22:31:42 GMT -5
Peter Rosenberg is truly something awful.
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Post by thetower52 on Mar 31, 2017 1:08:00 GMT -5
Peter Rosenberg is truly something awful. I like him better then Sam Roberts
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Post by thetower52 on Mar 31, 2017 1:17:39 GMT -5
Wow they brought up the picture leaks
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Mar 31, 2017 12:42:11 GMT -5
This is a decent idea in theory trying a more "shoot" style show but it's difficult the way they're attempting to tread the line between kayfabe and reality. I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve really.
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