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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Mar 25, 2017 18:31:03 GMT -5
UGH, Pocahontas sucked! It was just a dull, dumb movie. The only thing I got out of it is the terrible joke "what's a cannibal's favorite Disney song? 'Sandwiches! Sandwiches! Barely even human!'" The funniest part about it to me is I'm a Native American girl currently dating a Western European dude I'll give you that the movie overall didn't live up to its predecessors, but the entire Colors of the Wind sequence was one of Disney's finest hours. Just breathtakingly beautiful animation and a really powerful, emotional song to back it up.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 25, 2017 23:47:21 GMT -5
Oliver and Company at least tried doing something different, having a Disney movie set in the present. Even though I like the film well enough (saw it in the theater), it feels like Disney trying to do Don Bluth without Don Bluth involved.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Mar 27, 2017 6:41:31 GMT -5
Can't say that I'm a big fan of 70s era animated Disney films as films like The Aristocats and Robin Hood just come across as 3rd rate crap of the highest order.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 27, 2017 6:49:09 GMT -5
While I personally enjoyed it when I was a kid (mostly because I've always been a Donald Duck fan) I can see an argument being made for Three Caballeros (and most likely it's predecessor Saludos Amigos, but I never saw that one): -No real story -Quite a bit of live action used with animation -No real ending
Though it did give us:
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Post by Instant Classic on Mar 27, 2017 9:39:43 GMT -5
Cars franchise sucks.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 27, 2017 13:50:49 GMT -5
Can't say that I'm a big fan of 70s era animated Disney films as films like The Aristocats and Robin Hood just come across as 3rd rate crap of the highest order. I was really hoping to get through this thread without someone saying Robin Hood. That was always my favorite. On the other hand, I tried watching The Aristocats for the first time since I was about 3, and I fell asleep in the middle. It just felt like a rehash of 101 Dalmatians, with fewer interesting characters, and the one redeeming quality was when it came to the villain, you can say...the butler did it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 14:39:11 GMT -5
Can't say that I'm a big fan of 70s era animated Disney films as films like The Aristocats and Robin Hood just come across as 3rd rate crap of the highest order. Robin Hood is beautiful in so many ways, man.... ....but you're not exactly wrong either. Its budget was miniscule ($1-2mil?) and they clearly reused animation from other 'toons of the time. And as a whole, Disney animation of that time was....very grimey looking. Lot of inks in the artwork, almost like the penciled art was being deliberately carried over into the final product. Given that the Nine Old Men were still active in a variety of ways (some still animated, some suprivising the younger guys, the rest were producing/directing), it was probably just a slow evolution of the style they always preferred - a mentality that, I think, helped steer Don Bluth and Co. away from Disney in the early '80s to find their own (colossal, though in the long run rather brief) success independent from Disney. It wouldn't be until the very late '80s and early '90s that Disney animation was much smoother, cleaner and more colorful, which coincidentally is when the acclaim/importance of animation came back and the money started pouring in by the truckloads.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 14:49:47 GMT -5
While I personally enjoyed it when I was a kid (mostly because I've always been a Donald Duck fan) I can see an argument being made for Three Caballeros (and most likely it's predecessor Saludos Amigos, but I never saw that one): -No real story -Quite a bit of live action used with animation -No real ending Though it did give us: There's a documentary, circa 2008 - WALT & EL GRUPO - that tells the behind the scenes story of the creation of this particular era of Disney cartoons - and that probably makes their existence all the more worthwhile. Basically, Walt was sent by the US Govt to South America on a goodwill tour (to keep the continent's nations from being a full hotbed of Nazism, which - except for Argentina I guess - pretty much worked) and in the process he brought several animators and artists along with and they ended up with a colossal amount of material to create a whole wave of animated shorts and features. While the wartime propaganda jobs were setting back their animation plans by a decade (Alice in Wonderland) or more (Frozen, to a lesser extent), this helped populate the WW2 era with other work that......has aged well.
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