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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 23, 2017 2:57:54 GMT -5
Also we can't forget him going off on another wrestler just for saying hi to Paige
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 23, 2017 3:23:25 GMT -5
Isn't WWE really good about letting guys finishing up committed indy dates? They are letting the Hardys do it, for one. That's what I was thinking. I really don't feel like the AAA thing was WWE's call, when they've given every other fed out there a chance for the top guys they're poaching to at least finish out. Maybe AAA is a headache to deal with, but I have heard nothing about it being on AAA's side that would have caused this. This feels completely like it's Berto being Berto. Honestly, I'd be surprised that no one in WWE would be concerned that ADR wouldn't drop the title and just abandoned ship on them.
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 25, 2017 1:54:27 GMT -5
I was done with him the minute he tried to make LU out to be against him because they did not hand him everything he thought he deserved even though they gave him wayy more than he ever deserved now in hindsight and also finding out later that he was the one that refused to put over Pentagon...and so Vampiro took it upon himself to do it. f*** Berto dude is the epitamey of someone buying into their own hype. *points up* This
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 25, 2017 11:00:48 GMT -5
Isn't WWE really good about letting guys finishing up committed indy dates? They are letting the Hardys do it, for one. They are. they fired Cesaro the first time originally for breaking his commitments to get to the WWE quicker. they are letting Drew work 2 more shows for WCPW as he was booked. The Hardy's had theres. Daniel Bryan worked his indy dates after getting rehired. If you are booked the WWE will let you honor it. (probably due to legal things but still they do)
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Apr 25, 2017 11:30:50 GMT -5
Del Rio in a nutshell
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Post by chrom on Apr 25, 2017 12:42:05 GMT -5
He's a guy who got handed everything on a silver platter by them. Undefeated Streak, Royal Rumble, MITB, Multiple Title wins.
Not their fault that he underperformed
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 25, 2017 15:53:17 GMT -5
I won't doubt that Del Rio has an attitude problem and is probably responsible for 99% of all the shit he finds himself in. But I do think the WWE behaved appallingly over his first firing. I may be wrong in some of the points here as I can't remember exactly what supposedly happened but didn't Del Rio hit someone backstage in catering for making racist remarks? Not that they could condone violence but didn't the guy keep his job (initially anyway) and Del Rio got fired? Even if it was a case of Del Rio being in the last-chance Saloon and this was the final straw, it didn't look good for a company to be firing a Mexican for hitting someone who made racist remarks towards Mexicans in his vicinity. Again, I may have got the story wrong with that particular incident.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 25, 2017 17:58:37 GMT -5
His Uncle would even tell him to tone it down No yob. No yob.
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Post by r. on Apr 25, 2017 22:27:06 GMT -5
Well, they likely frowned on him wanted to snorts lines off of the big gold belt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 5:44:52 GMT -5
I won't doubt that Del Rio has an attitude problem and is probably responsible for 99% of all the shit he finds himself in. But I do think the WWE behaved appallingly over his first firing. I may be wrong in some of the points here as I can't remember exactly what supposedly happened but didn't Del Rio hit someone backstage in catering for making racist remarks? Not that they could condone violence but didn't the guy keep his job (initially anyway) and Del Rio got fired? Even if it was a case of Del Rio being in the last-chance Saloon and this was the final straw, it didn't look good for a company to be firing a Mexican for hitting someone who made racist remarks towards Mexicans in his vicinity. Again, I may have got the story wrong with that particular incident. The problem was in Alberto making it physical. If the guy had lost his job right after that, especially if nothing happened to Alberto, he probably could've pretty easily gotten a workplace safety suit going.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 2, 2017 11:57:14 GMT -5
Well, they likely frowned on him wanted to snorts lines off of the big gold belt. 'I wouldn't, buddy. You don't know where it's been. Do coke off Patterson's ass like the rest of us.' He's a guy who got handed everything on a silver platter by them. Undefeated Streak, Royal Rumble, MITB, Multiple Title wins. Not their fault that he underperformed Actually, it really, really is. Del Rio is an outstanding babyface, as they managed to briefly show in WWE once or twice. They booked him as a dreary heel, but then made his moveset still full of fireworks, which doesn't make a lick of sense. Then even the stuff that made him work as a heel, like Ricardo and the car, they stripped from him - and jobbed him out to Edge before Edge knew he had to retire. Edge is in my all-time top ten, don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but that win killed Del Rio very early, and nothing WWE did after that didn't work. You don't give guys opportunities to get him over. You give guys opportunities because he is over. All the world title reigns in the world don't mean Del Rio was booked well.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on May 3, 2017 5:31:02 GMT -5
I won't doubt that Del Rio has an attitude problem and is probably responsible for 99% of all the shit he finds himself in. But I do think the WWE behaved appallingly over his first firing. I may be wrong in some of the points here as I can't remember exactly what supposedly happened but didn't Del Rio hit someone backstage in catering for making racist remarks? Not that they could condone violence but didn't the guy keep his job (initially anyway) and Del Rio got fired? Even if it was a case of Del Rio being in the last-chance Saloon and this was the final straw, it didn't look good for a company to be firing a Mexican for hitting someone who made racist remarks towards Mexicans in his vicinity. Again, I may have got the story wrong with that particular incident. to be fair to WWE it's a common policy in pretty much ANY workplace to fire someone who physically assaults another employee. the only time I've ever heard of anyone getting away with it when I was taking HR in college was a guy at an office who had evidence that there was a pattern of harassment and had witnesses that said the guy had repeatedly provoked him. where WWE erred was in not suspending/disciplining the guy properly the minute they found out about the racist comments, which just escalated the situation.
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Post by Ryushinku on May 3, 2017 7:45:09 GMT -5
I won't doubt that Del Rio has an attitude problem and is probably responsible for 99% of all the shit he finds himself in. But I do think the WWE behaved appallingly over his first firing. I may be wrong in some of the points here as I can't remember exactly what supposedly happened but didn't Del Rio hit someone backstage in catering for making racist remarks? Not that they could condone violence but didn't the guy keep his job (initially anyway) and Del Rio got fired? Even if it was a case of Del Rio being in the last-chance Saloon and this was the final straw, it didn't look good for a company to be firing a Mexican for hitting someone who made racist remarks towards Mexicans in his vicinity. Again, I may have got the story wrong with that particular incident. The problem was in Alberto making it physical. If the guy had lost his job right after that, especially if nothing happened to Alberto, he probably could've pretty easily gotten a workplace safety suit going. It was rumoured that it was exactly that reason that the guy was kept on, only to be quietly let go a little down the line over some other issue.
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Post by Woo on May 3, 2017 16:34:44 GMT -5
I was done with him the minute he tried to make LU out to be against him because they did not hand him everything he thought he deserved even though they gave him wayy more than he ever deserved now in hindsight and also finding out later that he was the one that refused to put over Pentagon...and so Vampiro took it upon himself to do it. f*** Berto dude is the epitamey of someone buying into their own hype. So it got confirmed that it was Alberto? Man's a wanker.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 17:13:57 GMT -5
I was done with him the minute he tried to make LU out to be against him because they did not hand him everything he thought he deserved even though they gave him wayy more than he ever deserved now in hindsight and also finding out later that he was the one that refused to put over Pentagon...and so Vampiro took it upon himself to do it. f*** Berto dude is the epitamey of someone buying into their own hype. So it got confirmed that it was Alberto? Man's a wanker. Yea it was Vamp that basically revealed it he never named the name but his hints were not vague one bit.
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Post by Woo on May 3, 2017 17:56:33 GMT -5
So it got confirmed that it was Alberto? Man's a wanker. Yea it was Vamp that basically revealed it he never named the name but his hints were not vague one bit. What were the hints? I feel bad as in my head I pinned it on Blue Demon Jr.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 4, 2017 6:47:40 GMT -5
Alberto was a folk hero after his 1st departure from WWE. He used that to the fullest in getting over online, in the indies, and Mexico as a babyface. But that phrase of "All heroes have flaws" became clear soon enough. His current rant against WWE is toothless because his rep is in the dumps. He's branded a lying, short temper cokehead who is unreliable. He'll still have his supporters regardless of this. But most people know he is full of shit.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 4, 2017 17:20:23 GMT -5
Alberto was a folk hero after his 1st departure from WWE. He used that to the fullest in getting over online, in the indies, and Mexico as a babyface. But that phrase of "All heroes have flaws" became clear soon enough. His current rant against WWE is toothless because his rep is in the dumps. He's branded a lying, short temper cokehead who is unreliable. He'll still have his supporters regardless of this. But most people know he is full of shit. It's easier to cheer for a guy fighting against racism than a guy fighting against his own drug habits, poor decisions, and knife-wielding ghost hobos attacking his girlfriend in parking lots of cities he wasn't in.
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Post by Gummydavidson on May 5, 2017 13:24:29 GMT -5
Honestly i am scared that Paige is going to get a extremely bad beating by him because of his apparent rage issues, in some of the videos i watched with Del Rio and her she seemed a lot quieter than normal.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on May 5, 2017 13:49:21 GMT -5
I won't doubt that Del Rio has an attitude problem and is probably responsible for 99% of all the shit he finds himself in. But I do think the WWE behaved appallingly over his first firing. I may be wrong in some of the points here as I can't remember exactly what supposedly happened but didn't Del Rio hit someone backstage in catering for making racist remarks? Not that they could condone violence but didn't the guy keep his job (initially anyway) and Del Rio got fired? Even if it was a case of Del Rio being in the last-chance Saloon and this was the final straw, it didn't look good for a company to be firing a Mexican for hitting someone who made racist remarks towards Mexicans in his vicinity. Again, I may have got the story wrong with that particular incident. to be fair to WWE it's a common policy in pretty much ANY workplace to fire someone who physically assaults another employee. the only time I've ever heard of anyone getting away with it when I was taking HR in college was a guy at an office who had evidence that there was a pattern of harassment and had witnesses that said the guy had repeatedly provoked him. where WWE erred was in not suspending/disciplining the guy properly the minute they found out about the racist comments, which just escalated the situation. Oh yeah, I wasn't saying Del Rio shouldn't have been fired. It was more the point that WWE didn't fire the other guy immediately. Any negative press they might have got from "firing an employee who was assaulted" would have been negated by his racist comments.
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