|
Post by dxbang on Jul 29, 2017 14:14:53 GMT -5
There's something oddly entertaining about mid 90s WCW. Hogan, Savage and company brought that late 80s WWF feel to a very regional WCW (even though WCW was a national brand).
I wasn't a huge fan at the time, I caught bits and pieces of Nitro and usually skipped Saturday Night...but I've been watching the PPV's from the mid 90s and there's some good stuff mixed in there with some pretty terrible stuff.
If you were to give Vince control of WCW in 1995, he could have definitely made it work.
|
|
Spider2024
Patti Mayonnaise
Dedicated 6,666th post to Irontyger
I believe in Joe Hendry.
Posts: 39,214
|
Post by Spider2024 on Jul 29, 2017 14:44:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I got into WCW in 95. It was certainly interesting stuff, a lot of star power of different varieties. Maybe it was silly, but it certainly wasn't boring. Also I was young and still liked Hulk Hogan.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 15:15:08 GMT -5
The tag scene was pretty good. Seemed like every week you'd see some combo of The Nasty Boys, Harlem Heat, & the Blue Bloods.
|
|
|
Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 29, 2017 15:24:51 GMT -5
Vince had control of a wrestling company in 95, it didn't work. Heck, he had one in 1991-92 which had Flair, Savage, Hogan, Sid and a host of stars and business was faltering and things weren't at their peak, creatively.
|
|
mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
You're the lowest on the totem pole here, Alva. The lowest.
Posts: 23,475
|
Post by mizerable on Jul 29, 2017 17:04:24 GMT -5
1995 WCW was leagues more entertaining and watchable than 1995 WWF.
|
|
|
Post by chronocross on Jul 29, 2017 17:34:07 GMT -5
Minus the crap with the Dungeon of Doom, I thought WCW in 1995 was okay, the tag & U.S divisions were pretty strong and I remember really getting into the Flair/Arn feud. Too bad the Flair/Arn feud ended with Sting getting betrayed yet again.
|
|
|
Post by Clint Bobski on Jul 29, 2017 17:43:45 GMT -5
I actually preferred WCW in mid 92, before the influx of WWF stars. A main event scene of Sting, Vader, Flair, Luger and eventually Ron Simmons was great to watch. The US Title revolved around Rick Rude and Ricky Steamboat, Steve Austin was TV Champion, Brian Pillman was Light Heavyweight Champion, and was facing Scotty Flamingo (Raven) and Jushin Liger. Plus you had Cactus Jack, Barry Windham, Paul Orndorff, Dustin (pre-Goldust) Rhodes, and Steve Williams and Terry Gordy challenging the Steiners for the tag team titles, as well as the team of Arn Anderson and Bobby Eaton. It was great.
If you want a great example of a David v Goliath match where the face is over but can't work out how to beat the giant bad guy, watch Sting v Vader at the Great American Bash. Rude v Steamboat at Beach Blast is also a great watch.
|
|
Sam Punk
Hank Scorpio
Own Nothing, Be Happy
Posts: 6,304
|
Post by Sam Punk on Jul 29, 2017 20:33:42 GMT -5
Looking back, I wish the nwo never existed.
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 29, 2017 20:53:57 GMT -5
Looking back, I wish the nwo never existed. Nah thanks I'll take the nWo over the dungeon of doom and the four horsemen breaking up and getting back together every year.
|
|
|
Post by dxbang on Jul 29, 2017 21:56:30 GMT -5
Looking back, I wish the nwo never existed. Maybe it could have existed, but relegate it to an angle. Keep it lasting about a year or so and go from there. The Dungeon of Doom was ridiculously bad. Kevin Sullivan was terrible. Some of the Horseman stuff was great, a lot of it was bad. There were some feuds that were horrible, like Bossman and Tenta. The early cruiserweight stuff was alright and it got a LOT better. The U.S. title was crap when Konnan held it. Aside from Guerrero, he didn't fight anyone noteworthy and kept it for quite a while. His face character was really bad.
|
|
|
Post by cabbageboy on Jul 29, 2017 22:30:13 GMT -5
WCW was awful in 1995. But then I actually was perfectly fine with the 1992-94 era stuff that was pre Hogan. I had no desire to see Hogan come in to WCW, bring his cronies, etc. The problem is that WCW lost a ton of talent around the time Hogan came in. Steamboat and Rude both got hurt and had to retire, which wrecked various title scenes. Cactus Jack left anyway. For a solid year or so they had a real lack of talent on those cards and it wasn't remedied until the Nitro era.
Now the first half of 1996? Great stuff. I was more and more disillusioned by the WWF's product at the time. Let's just say a 16 year old HS junior was NOT impressed with Shawn Michaels almost showing his cock on live TV, nor the various antics of Goldust. So WCW's more serious approach was right up my alley. That's one thing people forget. WCW had a strong product in better position to wipe out the WWF even if the NWO hadn't come around. Take a look at a brilliant PPV like GAB 1996. Hall and Nash show up for that Bischoff segment, but otherwise that PPV was just great wrestling from top to bottom.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 23:19:47 GMT -5
Looking back, I wish the nwo never existed. nWo is probably the best sustained angle in wrestling history........they just didn't know when to end it.
|
|
|
Post by Porky's Butthole on Jul 30, 2017 0:24:20 GMT -5
Looking back, I wish the nwo never existed. nWo is probably the best sustained angle in wrestling history........they just didn't know when to end it. And when half the damned roster is a part of the group, it kinda takes away from it. IMO, the nWo should have been: Hall, Nash, Hogan, Scott Steiner and Curt Hennig. PERIOD.
|
|
|
Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 30, 2017 0:48:26 GMT -5
I mean... if Vince had control of this era of WCW it would pretty much be 1980s WWF...
with a few other players sure... but I mean the main event scene was pretty much straight out of the Rock and Wrestling era
By 1985 it was an EXTREMELY old hat. Something that the WCW fans especially did not want to see.
|
|
|
Post by dxbang on Jul 30, 2017 1:21:49 GMT -5
I mean... if Vince had control of this era of WCW it would pretty much be 1980s WWF... with a few other players sure... but I mean the main event scene was pretty much straight out of the Rock and Wrestling era By 1985 it was an EXTREMELY old hat. Something that the WCW fans especially did not want to see. By early '96 there were some really interesting matches involving Sting, Luger, and The Giant. The Sting/Luger face/heel thing was gold.
|
|
|
Post by Chuckie Finster on Jul 30, 2017 2:22:35 GMT -5
Bischoff had gotten a better handle at WCW in early 1996 before the nWo. You have the first influx or luchadors and cruiserweights, more house shows which led to better TV matches, a solid tag division and the end of the 1995 storyline absurdities.
The nWo cause WCW to take off, but they had a good foundation in the months beforehand.
|
|
|
Post by Swamp Trout on Jul 30, 2017 3:55:31 GMT -5
1995 WCW was leagues more entertaining and watchable than 1995 WWF. yeah while it wasn't that great, at least WCW constantly tried to break up the monotone formula, including introducing Cruiserweights, NJPW stars, introducing Nitro with its exciting feel...
|
|
Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
Posts: 121,068
Member is Online
|
Post by Mozenrath on Jul 30, 2017 5:00:58 GMT -5
nWo is probably the best sustained angle in wrestling history........they just didn't know when to end it. And when half the damned roster is a part of the group, it kinda takes away from it. IMO, the nWo should have been: Hall, Nash, Hogan, Scott Steiner and Curt Hennig. PERIOD. I think the nWo having a lot of lackeys helped sometimes, like the build to Hogan vs Goldberg. A lot of cannon fodder was good for that kind of thing. They probably should have ejected those people after failing, though, and even when wanting fodder, they could have stood to have been choosier.
|
|
|
Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 30, 2017 11:14:07 GMT -5
If were talking anything from 1988 (Turner sale) to May of 1996 (Hall on Nitro) then that's a pretty long period. Wrestling wise 1989 with Flair/Steamboat and then Flair/Funk as well as Sting/Muta and a motivated Luger is up there in terms of high quality NA wrestling over a long period of time.
|
|
DjZonk
Don Corleone
Where's my cat?
Posts: 1,325
|
Post by DjZonk on Jul 30, 2017 14:31:09 GMT -5
Very distinctive years. As in 1992 was very different from 1993, etc. Same can be said of WWF of course. These days the years all mold into each other.
Loved the energy of the initial pre nWo Nitro era. Lots of fun random matches to be found.
|
|