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Post by eJm on Dec 9, 2017 9:37:14 GMT -5
To think in the past WWE was probably looking for getting the next Macho Man or the next Rock. Now their goal is pursuing the latest vanilla workrate indy darling. Who in that company wants this? Others have said this but I'm going to put out an opinion I've had for a while. This mentality ingrained in people of "You have to aim to be a main eventer/world champion or else there's no point" is the one thing that's hurting the business more than anything else. You can make good money as a midcarder in WWE. You SHOULD make good money as a midcarder because you're good enough that people care about you in that part of the show. You don't NEED to be a main eventer to be happy in the same way some people don't need to be the boss of the company to be happy or able to live from working there. The biggest problem of the Cena era of WWE wasn't even Cena himself. It was the fact the company decided that nobody else mattered except Cena. Not anyone in the midcard, not anyone in the tag division, not anyone in the IC title hunt, not even anyone near Cena. It was Cena's opponent for a few months, then Cena. It hurt business because why root for anyone when the big heel of the moment is going to squash them to face Cena or Cena's going to squash them to face them. It's even affected them now. The IC title doesn't mean squat unless Roman's holding it, the Universal Title barely matters until Roman holds it, the tag titles don't matter until Roman's friends hold them. Sure, the arc of the show can revolve around a top guy, that's not the issue, the issue comes when that's the only thing that matters. The women's divisions on both shows? Lip service most of the times, badly at that. 205 Live was quickly told to people that they don't mean squat and people are asking where the stars are when most of the people in that division right now came from a critically acclaimed tournament. They did nothing to build any of those guys up, they just threw them out there and told them "Remember the CWC? None of these matches are going to be like that" and it's sad. Now we're expecting Hideo Itami and Rockstar Spud to be the ones to save the show? Really? They're great talents but they need a downright reboot right now. Tl;dr: HHH is a goddamn idiot.
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Post by Ganon83 on Dec 9, 2017 9:53:17 GMT -5
Imagine if Kofi walked out because he wanted to be a main eventer. Really terrible decision there
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Post by Chris Hammers on Dec 9, 2017 11:07:36 GMT -5
Im up for it. He only didnt get a deal before cause he was being loyal to Davey Richards. Let him have a chance.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 9, 2017 11:24:55 GMT -5
Eddie is a good hand so you can use him in NXT as a veteran in the ring with young talent and also as said before combine him and Roddy again for a team that can help both guys
They damn sure won’t use him same way TNA did
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 9, 2017 13:35:50 GMT -5
To think in the past WWE was probably looking for getting the next Macho Man or the next Rock. Now their goal is pursuing the latest vanilla workrate indy darling. Who in that company wants this? Others have said this but I'm going to put out an opinion I've had for a while. This mentality ingrained in people of "You have to aim to be a main eventer/world champion or else there's no point" is the one thing that's hurting the business more than anything else. You can make good money as a midcarder in WWE. You SHOULD make good money as a midcarder because you're good enough that people care about you in that part of the show. You don't NEED to be a main eventer to be happy in the same way some people don't need to be the boss of the company to be happy or able to live from working there. The biggest problem of the Cena era of WWE wasn't even Cena himself. It was the fact the company decided that nobody else mattered except Cena. Not anyone in the midcard, not anyone in the tag division, not anyone in the IC title hunt, not even anyone near Cena. It was Cena's opponent for a few months, then Cena. It hurt business because why root for anyone when the big heel of the moment is going to squash them to face Cena or Cena's going to squash them to face them. It's even affected them now. The IC title doesn't mean squat unless Roman's holding it, the Universal Title barely matters until Roman holds it, the tag titles don't matter until Roman's friends hold them. Sure, the arc of the show can revolve around a top guy, that's not the issue, the issue comes when that's the only thing that matters. The women's divisions on both shows? Lip service most of the times, badly at that. 205 Live was quickly told to people that they don't mean squat and people are asking where the stars are when most of the people in that division right now came from a critically acclaimed tournament. They did nothing to build any of those guys up, they just threw them out there and told them "Remember the CWC? None of these matches are going to be like that" and it's sad. Now we're expecting Hideo Itami and Rockstar Spud to be the ones to save the show? Really? They're great talents but they need a downright reboot right now. Tl;dr: HHH is a goddamn idiot. For all the jokes Koko B. Ware gets.....people remember]/i] Koko B. Ware. And he never won a WWF Title.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Dec 9, 2017 15:03:37 GMT -5
Will he bring his wife and I don't mean Davey Richards
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Post by Rave on Dec 9, 2017 17:43:00 GMT -5
First O'Reilly, now Eddie. People really benefit from getting out of Davey's toxic sphere of influence.
Dojo Bros please and thank you!
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Dec 9, 2017 18:14:26 GMT -5
The long anticipated return of John Cahill. If he comes back as Eddie Edwards, I will be disappoint.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Dec 9, 2017 19:07:49 GMT -5
To think in the past WWE was probably looking for getting the next Macho Man or the next Rock. Now their goal is pursuing the latest vanilla workrate indy darling. Who in that company wants this? Triple H.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Dec 9, 2017 19:16:11 GMT -5
The one silver lining to this is that seemingly even WWE knows that Davey Richards was a f***wit who cost both of them their shots in the past, and that Eddie by himself and without some idiot dragging him away may not be a terrible investment. This is the way I see it as well. I mean the dude is bland as hell, but I'm glad he's getting another shot at his dream after Davey f***ed him out of it the first time around.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 20:59:15 GMT -5
To think in the past WWE was probably looking for getting the next Macho Man or the next Rock. Now their goal is pursuing the latest vanilla workrate indy darling. Who in that company wants this? I don't think Edwards is an internet darling. People make jokes about the human dishwater.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Dec 9, 2017 23:13:59 GMT -5
Vince: where's eddie edwards? EE: right here sir! Vince: great! Ed i got this great idea for your entrance! EE: great can't wait to hear it Vince: well we're going to build a ski jump and have you jump to the ring! EE: what? I've never skied before Vince: aren't you eddie the eagle? EE: uh no Vince: damn it paul! You hired the wrong eddie edwards!
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Post by eJm on Dec 10, 2017 4:23:53 GMT -5
Others have said this but I'm going to put out an opinion I've had for a while. This mentality ingrained in people of "You have to aim to be a main eventer/world champion or else there's no point" is the one thing that's hurting the business more than anything else. You can make good money as a midcarder in WWE. You SHOULD make good money as a midcarder because you're good enough that people care about you in that part of the show. You don't NEED to be a main eventer to be happy in the same way some people don't need to be the boss of the company to be happy or able to live from working there. The biggest problem of the Cena era of WWE wasn't even Cena himself. It was the fact the company decided that nobody else mattered except Cena. Not anyone in the midcard, not anyone in the tag division, not anyone in the IC title hunt, not even anyone near Cena. It was Cena's opponent for a few months, then Cena. It hurt business because why root for anyone when the big heel of the moment is going to squash them to face Cena or Cena's going to squash them to face them. It's even affected them now. The IC title doesn't mean squat unless Roman's holding it, the Universal Title barely matters until Roman holds it, the tag titles don't matter until Roman's friends hold them. Sure, the arc of the show can revolve around a top guy, that's not the issue, the issue comes when that's the only thing that matters. The women's divisions on both shows? Lip service most of the times, badly at that. 205 Live was quickly told to people that they don't mean squat and people are asking where the stars are when most of the people in that division right now came from a critically acclaimed tournament. They did nothing to build any of those guys up, they just threw them out there and told them "Remember the CWC? None of these matches are going to be like that" and it's sad. Now we're expecting Hideo Itami and Rockstar Spud to be the ones to save the show? Really? They're great talents but they need a downright reboot right now. Tl;dr: HHH is a goddamn idiot. For all the jokes Koko B. Ware gets.....people remember]/i] Koko B. Ware. And he never won a WWF Title.Pretty much. Hell, Billy Gunn still gets work across the indies and even faced freaking Tanahashi this year and he’s won exactly 0 world titles.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 13, 2017 21:54:41 GMT -5
Others have said this but I'm going to put out an opinion I've had for a while. This mentality ingrained in people of "You have to aim to be a main eventer/world champion or else there's no point" is the one thing that's hurting the business more than anything else. You can make good money as a midcarder in WWE. You SHOULD make good money as a midcarder because you're good enough that people care about you in that part of the show. You don't NEED to be a main eventer to be happy in the same way some people don't need to be the boss of the company to be happy or able to live from working there. The biggest problem of the Cena era of WWE wasn't even Cena himself. It was the fact the company decided that nobody else mattered except Cena. Not anyone in the midcard, not anyone in the tag division, not anyone in the IC title hunt, not even anyone near Cena. It was Cena's opponent for a few months, then Cena. It hurt business because why root for anyone when the big heel of the moment is going to squash them to face Cena or Cena's going to squash them to face them. It's even affected them now. The IC title doesn't mean squat unless Roman's holding it, the Universal Title barely matters until Roman holds it, the tag titles don't matter until Roman's friends hold them. Sure, the arc of the show can revolve around a top guy, that's not the issue, the issue comes when that's the only thing that matters. The women's divisions on both shows? Lip service most of the times, badly at that. 205 Live was quickly told to people that they don't mean squat and people are asking where the stars are when most of the people in that division right now came from a critically acclaimed tournament. They did nothing to build any of those guys up, they just threw them out there and told them "Remember the CWC? None of these matches are going to be like that" and it's sad. Now we're expecting Hideo Itami and Rockstar Spud to be the ones to save the show? Really? They're great talents but they need a downright reboot right now. Tl;dr: HHH is a goddamn idiot. For all the jokes Koko B. Ware gets.....people remember]/i] Koko B. Ware. And he never won a WWF Title.Right. And back in the day even lower-tier carder like Koko had charisma and were entertaining. Unlike EE.
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Post by eJm on Dec 14, 2017 3:23:14 GMT -5
For all the jokes Koko B. Ware gets.....people remember]/i] Koko B. Ware. And he never won a WWF Title.Right. And back in the day even lower-tier carder like Koko had charisma and were entertaining. Unlike EE. That wasn’t what you were saying, though. You’re saying that them signing Eddie is stopping them from finding a next top star which, even if they did (it’s just a rumour after all), just simply isn’t true.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 17, 2017 22:06:04 GMT -5
Right. And back in the day even lower-tier carder like Koko had charisma and were entertaining. Unlike EE. That wasn’t what you were saying, though. You’re saying that them signing Eddie is stopping them from finding a next top star which, even if they did (it’s just a rumour after all), just simply isn’t true. I know what I was saying and what I was saying was the once mighty WWE trying to get someone like EE is disappointing. Cause once upon a time they were trying to get stars. Not the latest dude that might get a spot on 205 Live. Cause even back in the day, the lower cards guys were entertaining. They already have Roderick Strong, why get EE.
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Post by eJm on Dec 17, 2017 22:13:41 GMT -5
That wasn’t what you were saying, though. You’re saying that them signing Eddie is stopping them from finding a next top star which, even if they did (it’s just a rumour after all), just simply isn’t true. I know what I was saying and what I was saying was the once mighty WWE trying to get someone like EE is disappointing. Cause once upon a time they were trying to get stars. Not the latest dude that might get a spot on 205 Live. Whilst they were getting their Austins, Rocks or Undertakers (two of them almost didn’t happen), they were also getting their Scotty Too Hottys, their Crash Hollys and Steve Blackmans. People they could try to do something with and fill a spot needed on the card. Unless they actually thought WrestleMania was going to be headlined one year by Blue Meanie vs. Mideon in Hell in a Cell which in that case, they damn sure failed at that attempt. I’m not saying they shouldn’t be finding their next main event star. Their biggest issue is not making the people they have already someone people should be caring about because they want to keep REMINDING them they’re not going to be the next main event stat when that’s exactly one of the things driving people away for the last decade and a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 22:16:57 GMT -5
Personally I don't at all mind WWE picking up people who are never going to be huge stars but are decent utility players, I just mind them getting Eddie Edwards. The guy is boring as hell.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 18, 2017 4:20:22 GMT -5
Eddie is talented and seems nice. But that's all he has. He's got the same issue Doug Furnas and Phil LaFon had in that they come off like powerful CAWs. He needs a character, badly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 4:54:32 GMT -5
Eddie is talented and seems nice. But that's all he has. He's got the same issue Doug Furnas and Phil LaFon had in that they come off like powerful CAWs. He needs a character, badly. He does have a natural likeability and charisma but it doesn't project as well as it needs to in ring. As much as Davey has screwed him over the years too, the silver lining is that most people look better next to that douche. I felt the same way about Gargano and Ciampa when they came in, bland and indyriffic as hell but developmental worked wonders on them. I could see a similar turnaround for Eddie.
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