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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Feb 2, 2018 14:10:09 GMT -5
So I notice in early 1990 the Tag Team ended, they were together at Survivor Series 1989, but by Wrestlemania VI, Barbarian is with Bobby Heenan and The Warlord isn't on the card. The next time a PPV happens, The Warlord is with Slick and fights Tito Santana (Barbarian's opponent at WM). So what happened?
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Post by CMWaters on Feb 2, 2018 14:15:41 GMT -5
I don't know about off camera but I think on camera it was because Mr. Fuji sold the contracts separately to Heenan and Slick respectively.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Feb 2, 2018 14:23:32 GMT -5
Never quite understood it myself. They had been treading water since Demolition soundly won their feud by pinning them at Wrestlemania V but then started to get a push towards the end of 89. Neither of them were pinned in their Survivor Series match and they both pinned a member of Demolition in that same match. I can see that they wanted them to look strong in the opening period of their singles run but going by the history of tag teams being split up for the same reason, there’s not many times where the team wasn’t being used to put over other teams before their split. Storyline wise, they had The Orient Express debuting at the same time and Fuji wanted to dedicate his time to them, so he simply sold the PoP to Heenan and Slick. And speaking of Wrestlemania 6, these were the days of 14 match Manias so I always wondered why they didn’t have The Warlord have a match there too. I think both The Rooster and Ronnie Garvin were still around, so have one of them job to The Warlord there and give him a bit of a kick-start to his push.
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Post by chazraps on Feb 2, 2018 15:32:58 GMT -5
I always heard it was a debate between Dr. Pepper and Diet Dr. Pepper, with neither side willing to concede that the taste is identical because they're both heels.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 2, 2018 16:25:28 GMT -5
The on-screen reason is as the others said - Fuji wanted to concentrate on his new team and sold off the contracts individually. The off-screen reason is because the Road Warriors were coming in and they felt having three extremely similar teams was too much and wanted to distance War and Barb from that look as much as possible, as quickly as possible.
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Post by cjh on Feb 2, 2018 16:33:00 GMT -5
The on-screen reason is as the others said - Fuji wanted to concentrate on his new team and sold off the contracts individually. The off-screen reason is because the Road Warriors were coming in and they felt having three extremely similar teams was too much and wanted to distance War and Barb from that look as much as possible, as quickly as possible. They knew in March that the Road Warriors were coming? That's odd, as Hawk and Animal were still working full time in WCW until the end of May, even winning on the May PPV.
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Post by The Sam on Feb 2, 2018 16:47:21 GMT -5
Warlod wanted that silver Phantom of the Opera mask and W Wand and Fuji couldn't afford it. Barb tried to talk him out of it but Warlord knew this is what would shoot him towards a WWF Championship.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 2, 2018 16:51:06 GMT -5
Apparently they were split up to give Hogan and Warrior new opponents, however neither ever worked Hogan or Warrior so I don't know. I honestly don't get why they didn't use them as opponents for Warrior even in a house show capacity as he was so desperate for heel opponents during his entire reign due to almost all the top heels at the time either being previously vanquished either by Hogan (Savage, Dibiase, Perfect) or Warrior himself (Rude).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 17:16:10 GMT -5
they fought over a "ring rat" in Columbus
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Post by axebomber on Feb 2, 2018 17:35:44 GMT -5
Apparently they were split up to give Hogan and Warrior new opponents, however neither ever worked Hogan or Warrior so I don't know. I honestly don't get why they didn't use them as opponents for Warrior even in a house show capacity as he was so desperate for heel opponents during his entire reign due to almost all the top heels at the time either being previously vanquished either by Hogan (Savage, Dibiase, Perfect) or Warrior himself (Rude). That's what I wonder too. I'm watching the OSW reviews in order and there would have been a few options for good heels for Warrior after Mania 6. Both Warlord and Barbarian would have been perfect. They're cartoony villains that would have matched up perfectly with UW's style. Big Bossman would have been great too, if they would have delayed his face turn just a bit longer.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 2, 2018 17:49:58 GMT -5
The on-screen reason is as the others said - Fuji wanted to concentrate on his new team and sold off the contracts individually. The off-screen reason is because the Road Warriors were coming in and they felt having three extremely similar teams was too much and wanted to distance War and Barb from that look as much as possible, as quickly as possible. They knew in March that the Road Warriors were coming? That's odd, as Hawk and Animal were still working full time in WCW until the end of May, even winning on the May PPV. Vince and the LOD knew, whether WCW knew I can't say. There's a long-standing rumor that the LOD demanded the POP disbanding, but I've never bought that.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 2, 2018 19:05:17 GMT -5
Didn't Hogan have a house show feud with Warlord? Or is that my mind playing tricks on me?
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 2, 2018 19:50:17 GMT -5
Warlord and Barbarian still do a lot of autograph conventions and even wrestling matches so they got along, so behind the scenes dissention couldn't have been the reason. Also, from everything I've seen in the last few years with Animal, he's pretty down to earth, honest and humble, and I doubt either he or Hawk would think to want the competition disbanded. Also, having Powers of Pain together would give LOD some more competition on the shows. Warlord and Barbarian, with the right storylines could have been bigger than they were. Barbarian was a pretty good talent and Warlord could kind of mask not having as much talent especially with the right opponent. Warlord had a longer feud with Bulldog which had some steam but neither guy really had much going on after the split.
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 2, 2018 21:08:39 GMT -5
I totally lost interest in both of them once they split. I would have been ok with them just dropping the paint and maybe switching tights, but not the getups they wound up with.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 3, 2018 14:05:31 GMT -5
Didn't Hogan have a house show feud with Warlord? Or is that my mind playing tricks on me? I definitely remember an Event Center update on Superstars or Wrestling Challenge circa 1992 where they advertised Hogan vs. Warlord, but yeah, might have only been one match because it was around the time Hogan had one foot out the door.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 3, 2018 15:39:22 GMT -5
Didn't Hogan have a house show feud with Warlord? Or is that my mind playing tricks on me? I definitely remember an Event Center update on Superstars or Wrestling Challenge circa 1992 where they advertised Hogan vs. Warlord, but yeah, might have only been one match because it was around the time Hogan had one foot out the door. It didn't help that Warlord wasn't a great worker in terms of keeping things light; he didn't intentionally shoot on guys, but he could get careless/rough with them and Hogan hated working with those types.
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Post by edgestar on Feb 3, 2018 20:43:02 GMT -5
They healed
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 3, 2018 21:32:33 GMT -5
They knew in March that the Road Warriors were coming? That's odd, as Hawk and Animal were still working full time in WCW until the end of May, even winning on the May PPV. Vince and the LOD knew, whether WCW knew I can't say. There's a long-standing rumor that the LOD demanded the POP disbanding, but I've never bought that. I remember by February 1990 it was out there that the Road Warriors had interest in the WWF. The bookers knew to get rid of the PoP early before making an offer.
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Post by repomark on Feb 4, 2018 10:24:45 GMT -5
It is interesting and I did not know there were rumours that LOD demand POP split before they came in/they were split to show LOD that they wanted them.
Pretty much the Demolition v LOD feud when they did arrive seems to have been based around “Demolition were second rate imposters and now we have the real deal”. It didn’t help that Ax was winding down by that point and Crush was brought in, but I never really thought of Demolition as LOD rip offs.
I did however always think of the Powers of Pain that way, so it might have made more sense to have them be the ones the Road Warriors defeated to prove they were the real deal coming in the door, then move onto Demolition. Seemed odd that they chose to split them up and not go with obvious angle, which gives some credence to the speculation that their split was directly linked to the LOD negotiations at the time.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Feb 4, 2018 20:02:01 GMT -5
my guess is that Vince was possibly already in talks to bring LOD in, he didn't want similar looking teams
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