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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 26, 2018 17:31:27 GMT -5
As for other wonders I have, I'm very curious about the timeline of Ant-Man & The Wasp. It seems awfully weird that it wouldn't deal with fingersnap fallout unless it's set beforehand. Based on everything I've read so far, it's set shortly before or possibly concurrently with IW. Edit: Marvel just confirmed that it's set just after Civil War. Although one thing that does really, really bug me with this going into it is... Yeah, the finger snap is just way too blatantly going to be completely undone. And they really can't even pretend it's actually going to stick because right around the time 4 comes out they're going to have to start promoting the next Spider-Man out a couple months later. Kind of simultaneously making it pointless by not killing any of the core group and making it kill way too many big names for it to be at all believable. Having seen it twice now, I can confidently say that Infinity War is a total misdirection. Everybody who dies in it will return, except maybe Heimdall, since Idris Elba has said he's done with the role (what is it with the Thor cast all wanting out?). Maybe Loki, too, since his final act being one of self-sacrifice to save the brother he so often tried to kill is a good way to go out. All that said, I do not expect there to not be a body count in A4, and that those deaths will be permanent.
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Post by Scooterdust on Apr 26, 2018 21:49:53 GMT -5
Seeing the fan event, every disintegration got a gasp from the audience, Looking back, it looks like the Gauntlet was damaged after the finger snap. Thanos still has the stones correct, or are they sent back to random locations (sorta like the Dragon Balls)?.
The biggest shock of the movie had little to do with the actual plot, and that is RED SKULL!!! I was trying to place the voice, and then everyone gasped at seeing Schmidt. So apparently he is the guardian of the Soul Stone?
Had an Ant-Man & The Wasp trailer before it. Very awesome.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 26, 2018 21:59:28 GMT -5
As for other wonders I have, I'm very curious about the timeline of Ant-Man & The Wasp. It seems awfully weird that it wouldn't deal with fingersnap fallout unless it's set beforehand. Based on everything I've read so far, it's set shortly before or possibly concurrently with IW. Edit: Marvel just confirmed that it's set just after Civil War. Although one thing that does really, really bug me with this going into it is... Yeah, the finger snap is just way too blatantly going to be completely undone. And they really can't even pretend it's actually going to stick because right around the time 4 comes out they're going to have to start promoting the next Spider-Man out a couple months later. Kind of simultaneously making it pointless by not killing any of the core group and making it kill way too many big names for it to be at all believable. Having seen it twice now, I can confidently say that Infinity War is a total misdirection. Everybody who dies in it will return, except maybe Heimdall, since Idris Elba has said he's done with the role (what is it with the Thor cast all wanting out?). Maybe Loki, too, since his final act being one of self-sacrifice to save the brother he so often tried to kill is a good way to go out. All that said, I do not expect there to not be a body count in A4, and that those deaths will be permanent. I was thinking that if you died before the finger-snap, you stay dead. So that would include Gamora and the Asgardians.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Apr 26, 2018 22:02:18 GMT -5
I was not expecting Red Skull.
On the whole, I liked it a lot. I didn’t think anything was rushed and I thought almost everybody had something to do, aside from Black Widow, Black Panther and Bucky.
Drax was great as always.
I thought Thanos was pretty well realized, especially for what we normally get from Marvel villains. He was a very Shakespearean villain and his motivations were believable. Also, I know it’s temporary, but it’s cool to see a bad guy win for once.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 26, 2018 22:08:05 GMT -5
Trailers really didn't let on that Thor and GotG were probably the main heroes of the movie, so that was a nice surprise.
Red Skull was a shock and half. Never even considered that he'd show up again, and it was a cool way to include him too.
Lot of big reactions during the movie; Cap's first appearance with the theme, Spidey breaking out the Iron Spider gear, Thor coming to kick ass in Wakanda and the Captain Marvel tease were the big ones for applause and cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 22:09:14 GMT -5
Just got in and yeah, I liked it a lot. Especially enjoyed Thanos - find him a pretty weak character a lot of the time but really loved the level of depth he had in this.
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Post by Sparvid on Apr 26, 2018 22:28:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 22:33:27 GMT -5
Oh, I was confused about that. Yeah, I know f***-all about Arrested Development.
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Post by Shai on Apr 26, 2018 22:55:05 GMT -5
So....that was a thing that happened.
Jesus H. CHRIST
I cried five times.
THEY KILLED MY PRINCE BUT HE WENT OUT SAVING HIS BROTHER. IF HE'S REALLY GONE SO BE IT. LOKI ACHIEVED HIS REDEMPION AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED.
When Thor said that he had nothing left to lose and Rocket was like I have a lot to lose. (made ten times worse by already knowing that Rocket would be the only Guardian left by the end)
Nebula and Starlord realizing Gamora was dead. Yeah he messed up but damnit I understand and nobody better blame my man Peter.
Bucky's 'Steve' as he was disappearing and Steve kneeling in Bucky's ashes
PETER AND TONY, GODDAMN....I WAS OUTRIGHT SOBBING BY THAT POINT.
The 'Thanos will return' card was met by boos, cursing and throwing of popcorn.
When Captain Marvel's logo appeared a dude shouted 'Carol gonna beat that purple motherf***er's ass in a year.'
This was the FIRST time I have ever been to a Marvel movie and not a single freaking person in the joint moved until the lights came up.
I LOVED IT. IT BROKE ME BUT I LOVED IT.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 26, 2018 22:57:06 GMT -5
So....that was a thing that happened. Jesus H. CHRIST I cried five times. THEY KILLED MY PRINCE BUT HE WENT OUT SAVING HIS BROTHER. IF HE'S REALLY GONE SO BE IT. LOKI ACHIEVED HIS REDEMPION AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED. When Thor said that he had nothing left to lose and Rocket was like I have a lot to lose. (made ten times worse by already knowing that Rocket would be the only Guardian left by the end) Nebula and Starlord realizing Gamora was dead. Yeah he messed up but damnit I understand and nobody better blame my man Peter. Bucky's 'Steve' as he was disappearing and Steve kneeling in Bucky's ashes PETER AND TONY, GODDAMN....I WAS OUTRIGHT SOBBING BY THAT POINT. The 'Thanos will return' card was met by boos, cursing and throwing of popcorn. When Captain Marvel's logo appeared a dude shouted 'Carol gonna beat that purple motherf***er's ass in a year.' This was the FIRST time I have ever been to a Marvel movie and not a single freaking person in the joint moved until the lights came up. I LOVED IT. IT BROKE ME BUT I LOVED IT. Carol landing that one strike on Thanos that knocks him on his purple ass is gonna be a moment that gets big pops in every screening.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Apr 26, 2018 23:10:46 GMT -5
So....that was a thing that happened. Jesus H. CHRIST I cried five times. THEY KILLED MY PRINCE BUT HE WENT OUT SAVING HIS BROTHER. IF HE'S REALLY GONE SO BE IT. LOKI ACHIEVED HIS REDEMPION AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED. When Thor said that he had nothing left to lose and Rocket was like I have a lot to lose. (made ten times worse by already knowing that Rocket would be the only Guardian left by the end) Nebula and Starlord realizing Gamora was dead. Yeah he messed up but damnit I understand and nobody better blame my man Peter. Bucky's 'Steve' as he was disappearing and Steve kneeling in Bucky's ashes PETER AND TONY, GODDAMN....I WAS OUTRIGHT SOBBING BY THAT POINT. The 'Thanos will return' card was met by boos, cursing and throwing of popcorn. When Captain Marvel's logo appeared a dude shouted 'Carol gonna beat that purple motherf***er's ass in a year.' This was the FIRST time I have ever been to a Marvel movie and not a single freaking person in the joint moved until the lights came up. I LOVED IT. IT BROKE ME BUT I LOVED IT. The Peter/Tony stuff at the end was hard to watch and people gasped when Loki died. The crowd at my showing loved all of the Thor/Quill stuff, screamed when Glaive stabbed Vision, clapped at Cap’s appearance and cheered when “Wakanda” appeared on the screen.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 26, 2018 23:29:18 GMT -5
I bet "the cool idea" for Hawkeye in the next movie is that his entire family was wiped out with the fingersnap and he's out hunting for the one responsible. Not that cool of an idea, unless he starts shooting the infinity stones OUT of the gauntlet, but even that is ridiculous. (For the record, I'm a big fan of Hawkeye. I miss Marvel Heroes, I used to love playing as him.) It seems likely to me. I think they're going to merge his turn as a reckless nutcase with a death wish in volume 3 of The Ultimates with his becoming Ronin in 616. Probably spends Avengers 4 rediscovering his sanity. As for other wonders I have, I'm very curious about the timeline of Ant-Man & The Wasp. It seems awfully weird that it wouldn't deal with fingersnap fallout unless it's set beforehand. Ant-Man & The Wasp takes place before IW if I remember right...but I’m willing to bet that the big final fight takes place in the Quantum Realm and they pop back out after the damage from the finger snap has been done. Also...Strange giving Thanos the Eye...I’m surprised Stark didn’t get it. Strange said there was only one scenario out of millions where they won. He knew that in order for them to ultimately win, Thanos first had to succeed.
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Post by Shai on Apr 26, 2018 23:31:32 GMT -5
So....that was a thing that happened. Jesus H. CHRIST I cried five times. THEY KILLED MY PRINCE BUT HE WENT OUT SAVING HIS BROTHER. IF HE'S REALLY GONE SO BE IT. LOKI ACHIEVED HIS REDEMPION AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED. When Thor said that he had nothing left to lose and Rocket was like I have a lot to lose. (made ten times worse by already knowing that Rocket would be the only Guardian left by the end) Nebula and Starlord realizing Gamora was dead. Yeah he messed up but damnit I understand and nobody better blame my man Peter. Bucky's 'Steve' as he was disappearing and Steve kneeling in Bucky's ashes PETER AND TONY, GODDAMN....I WAS OUTRIGHT SOBBING BY THAT POINT. The 'Thanos will return' card was met by boos, cursing and throwing of popcorn. When Captain Marvel's logo appeared a dude shouted 'Carol gonna beat that purple motherf***er's ass in a year.' This was the FIRST time I have ever been to a Marvel movie and not a single freaking person in the joint moved until the lights came up. I LOVED IT. IT BROKE ME BUT I LOVED IT. The Peter/Tony stuff at the end was hard to watch and people gasped when Loki died. The crowd at my showing loved all of the Thor/Quill stuff, screamed when Glaive stabbed Vision, clapped at Cap’s appearance and cheered when “Wakanda” appeared on the screen. The Peter/Tony scene was made a good ten times worse for me and my sister as the phrase 'But I don't want to go' triggers what we like to call Whovian PTSD as those were the last words of our favorite Doctor. "Wakanda" Was met by a damn near standing ovation.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 26, 2018 23:57:49 GMT -5
It seems likely to me. I think they're going to merge his turn as a reckless nutcase with a death wish in volume 3 of The Ultimates with his becoming Ronin in 616. Probably spends Avengers 4 rediscovering his sanity. As for other wonders I have, I'm very curious about the timeline of Ant-Man & The Wasp. It seems awfully weird that it wouldn't deal with fingersnap fallout unless it's set beforehand. Ant-Man & The Wasp takes place before IW if I remember right...but I’m willing to bet that the big final fight takes place in the Quantum Realm and they pop back out after the damage from the finger snap has been done. Also...Strange giving Thanos the Eye...I’m surprised Stark didn’t get it. Strange said there was only one scenario out of millions where they won. He knew that in order for them to ultimately win, Thanos first had to succeed. Maybe Strange discovered Captain Marvel's existence and knows that she'll play a (presumed) big role in Thanos's ultimate defeat?
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Post by Shai on Apr 27, 2018 0:02:56 GMT -5
Also....
THESE CRAZY BASTARDS AT MARVEL STUDIOS REALLY SAVED EVERY BIT OF VILLAINY THAT WE BEEN BITCHING ABOUT THE MCU LACKING FOR THAT GRAPE FLAVORED THUMB.
........well played.
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Post by Shai on Apr 27, 2018 0:27:40 GMT -5
I GET IT NOW!
My sister and I were trying to figure out why Peter was seemingly the only one who felt “something” when he was about to disappear and this got me thinking.
I even frowned and got confused, because yes, he was the only one who expressed something with the line:
“Mr. Stark, I don’t feel so good…”
THAT’S BECAUSE OF THE SPIDER-SENSE! It warns Peter of hidden dangers, things that are yet to happen - which also helps him to avoid attacks and gives him the agility he has.
OH MY GOD, THAT WAS FU**ING SMOOTH, MARVEL.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Apr 27, 2018 0:54:47 GMT -5
I GET IT NOW! My sister and I were trying to figure out why Peter was seemingly the only one who felt “something” when he was about to disappear and this got me thinking. I even frowned and got confused, because yes, he was the only one who expressed something with the line: “Mr. Stark, I don’t feel so good…” THAT’S BECAUSE OF THE SPIDER-SENSE! It warns Peter of hidden dangers, things that are yet to happen - which also helps him to avoid attacks and gives him the agility he has. OH MY GOD, THAT WAS FU**ING SMOOTH, MARVEL. I always liked the scene from the trailer that included his spidey sense, as it was relatively subtle too.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 27, 2018 1:01:10 GMT -5
I can see the ending (despite the fact that it's obviously set up with being resolved in Avengers 4) being a point of contention.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Apr 27, 2018 1:01:48 GMT -5
The Peter/Tony stuff at the end was hard to watch and people gasped when Loki died. The crowd at my showing loved all of the Thor/Quill stuff, screamed when Glaive stabbed Vision, clapped at Cap’s appearance and cheered when “Wakanda” appeared on the screen. The Peter/Tony scene was made a good ten times worse for me and my sister as the phrase 'But I don't want to go' triggers what we like to call Whovian PTSD as those were the last words of our favorite Doctor. "Wakanda" Was met by a damn near standing ovation. The Peter part is what sold that scene for me. Before I was thinking, "okay, this is just going to get undone in the next movie anyway." Then there's the scene between Peter and Tony and I thought, "wait, this is sad after all". Especially because part of Tony Stark's character development has been being protective of Peter Parker since Civil War.
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Post by Shai on Apr 27, 2018 1:12:13 GMT -5
I can see the ending (despite the fact that it's obviously set up with being resolved in Avengers 4) being a point of contention. My group chat is a mess right now. Even going into it I was like they wouldn't really do the snap. They wouldn't.... Kudos to them for having the balls and going all in.
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