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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on May 11, 2018 7:56:36 GMT -5
This used to be can't-miss TV for me, and many older episodes are classics.
However, Season 12 was completely unwatchable crap, and i have no desire to keep watching.
Where did it go wrong?
I have my thoughts, but I am curious about yours.
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Post by Fake Jesus on May 11, 2018 8:13:16 GMT -5
Answer: it didn't.
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 11, 2018 8:27:30 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I can't watch the two last seasons either. It has just felt off to me. It's not bad, but I don't find it enjoyable as the first ten seasons.
After Seinfeld and the Simpsons my theory is even great shows have at best ten or eleven seasons in them before they should wrap it up. After that something changes and the show suffers: The actors have aged and mentally moved on, new writing staff is brought in, the show adds new characters to try and keep show fresh changing the chemistry, or the characters have become flanderized.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 9:32:41 GMT -5
The actors moved on, without actually moving on.
It should just end, IMO. Quality wise it's merely "fine" now (if that, from the sounds of others here), which is unfortunate for a show that hammered our senses for several years.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 11, 2018 17:17:06 GMT -5
I think the show still has a lot to offer despite not being as consistent as it once was. Taking a break was a good call for sure, and I don't want them to make much more but it's my favourite TV show ever, so it is many marathons away from being something I wouldn't watch new episodes of every year.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 11, 2018 17:27:21 GMT -5
A friend of mine's girlfriendwife speculates that Dennis is in fact a serial killer, and has been for a while. I could see that being how his story ends.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on May 11, 2018 17:47:40 GMT -5
it pretty much pecked at BIRD LAWYER ..... where else could you go after that!!!  i have series 5-12 |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on May 11, 2018 17:53:34 GMT -5
A friend of mine's girlfriendwife speculates that Dennis is in fact a serial killer So does everyone else. |
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Post by Mozenrath on May 11, 2018 17:56:22 GMT -5
A friend of mine's girlfriendwife speculates that Dennis is in fact a serial killer So does everyone else. Oh, by now, sure, but she thought this in like, season 2 I think. A bit ahead of the curve. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 20:07:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess life happened.
Honestly, I thought the show sucked, as a show where every main character is an asshole is not endearing. I remember watching an episode they aired on FOX (heavily censored, of course) where one of the characters finds a Nazi general's uniform and is excited at a financial windfall, and when the curator is aghast at the atrocities that uniform represented, he's sitting there with a shit eating grin and going "So... How much?"
This was the first season. I can't imagine how more crude it got.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 11, 2018 20:09:09 GMT -5
A friend of mine's girlfriendwife speculates that Dennis is in fact a serial killer, and has been for a while. I could see that being how his story ends. They actually did an episode about it. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 11, 2018 20:11:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess life happened. Honestly, I thought the show sucked, as a show where every main character is an asshole is not endearing. I remember watching an episode they aired on FOX (heavily censored, of course) where one of the characters finds a Nazi general's uniform and is excited at a financial windfall, and when the curator is aghast at the atrocities that uniform represented, he's sitting there with a shit eating grin and going "So... How much?" This was the first season. I can't imagine how more crude it got. I see you never saw the episode with "... because of the implication". Yeah it gets more depraved and they become worse people every season. Catnip for people like me but really not for everyone. |
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Post by Larryhausen on May 11, 2018 20:53:05 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for the Superbowl episode.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on May 11, 2018 21:11:12 GMT -5
I'm waiting for "The Gang Goes SJW All Over Everyone's Ass", because that's where the show has been heading.
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Post by Clutchhausen on May 13, 2018 2:32:49 GMT -5
Hero or Hate Crime is a top 10 classic IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 2:47:13 GMT -5
I don't really know how to judge the show? I used to watch random reruns I'd catch on and quite enjoy them, but I've never made any attempt to actually watch the show from the beginning or try and follow it. Just a case where I like the show when it's on but I've never had any real desire to get caught up on it and I haven't watched it in years at this point.
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Post by Citizen Snips on May 13, 2018 9:28:15 GMT -5
It reached the stage most sitcoms reach. After a few seasons, you run out of fresh situations to put the characters in and the actors can basically play the characters on autopilot so it's not as fresh. Sunny's done 12 seasons, it just can't be as fresh as the first few. Even the Super Bowl episode they'll most likely do will just be an amped-up version of the episode where they were in court after the Phillies won the World Series. Basically, the "Dennis is a serial killer" reveal/swerve is all they have left in their pocket.
And again, that's most every sitcom, not just Sunny. Just having a half-hour situation to throw the characters in inevitably gets old after a few seasons.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 13, 2018 9:38:32 GMT -5
I'm old enough that when it started, I was still young enough to not roll my eyes at it and get a few chuckles, but now we've reached a point where I definitely feel like I've grown too old for a show where all the characters revel in how awful they are like that.
That, and I'll get tired of any show that's gone on as many years as this one has.
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Post by Jiren on May 13, 2018 9:42:37 GMT -5
It reached the stage most sitcoms reach. After a few seasons, you run out of fresh situations to put the characters in and the actors can basically play the characters on autopilot so it's not as fresh. Sunny's done 12 seasons, it just can't be as fresh as the first few. Even the Super Bowl episode they'll most likely do will just be an amped-up version of the episode where they were in court after the Phillies won the World Series. Basically, the "Dennis is a serial killer" reveal/swerve is all they have left in their pocket. And again, that's most every sitcom, not just Sunny. Just having a half-hour situation to throw the characters in inevitably gets old after a few seasons. Now they've done the "Mac admits he's gay" for real that's true |
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Post by Juice on May 13, 2018 12:00:03 GMT -5
Show still fires on all cylinders. The core writers are Glenn and Rob who have other stuff,
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