So.... Ringside seats for Super Show-down are $1427

[The Lach is very tired]

Just got the email from the show promoter with the ticket info for Super Show-down.

I wasn't expecting it to be cheap, I paid $250 for ringside for NXT in 2016 but I wasn't expecting it to cost over $1000! Devastated now as there is no way I can afford decent seats coupled with the expense of traveling from Sydney to Melbourne for the show.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

They won't be that expensive for long, surely?

[Heartbreaker]

I don't think I'll be going to this. Waaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive. I'm not paying hundreds just to see wrestlers become the size of ants.

There is no way in hell they are going to sell out, especially with both AFL and NRL grand finals being around a week apart.

[chronocross]

Yeah that's way too much for basically a big house show.

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Jun 21, 2018 7:26:23 GMT -5 Heartbreaker said:

I don't think I'll be going to this. Waaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive. I'm not paying hundreds just to see wrestlers become the size of ants.

There is no way in hell they are going to sell out, especially with both AFL and NRL grand finals being around a week apart.

This is why my $700 USD tickets for Mania 29 were a bust. It rained and I got sick for $700.... and I had to see Rock vs Cena II.

[Push R Truth]

If I spent 1400+ on a house show I'd expect free food, drinks, back stage meet-and-greet and to pin the Undertaker in the middle of the ring.

[The Lach is very tired]

Jun 21, 2018 7:37:06 GMT -5 Push R Truth said:

If I spent 1400+ on a house show I'd expect free food, drinks, back stage meet-and-greet and to pin the Undertaker in the middle of the ring.

Oh the VIP fan experience (meet & greet etc) is $3568, the $1427 is just the seat price alone.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Most I’d go would be $300-$400, and that gets you in the middle tier stands, apparently.

[KofiMania]

It’s going to be Wrestlemania-level so there’s your Wrestlemania-level prices.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Jun 21, 2018 7:53:49 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

It’s going to be Wrestlemania-level so there’s your Wrestlemania-level prices.

Come on, really? WWE got crazy amounts of money from Saudi Arabia and they put on the definition of a fancy house show, I don't see any way they make a show in Australia in October, prime season for their post-Summerslam "nothing happens mode", in a country on the other side of the world that their main fanbase can't catch live for the most part, is treated as anything Wrestlemania-level.

[KofiMania]

Jun 21, 2018 7:58:46 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Jun 21, 2018 7:53:49 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

It’s going to be Wrestlemania-level so there’s your Wrestlemania-level prices.

Come on, really? WWE got crazy amounts of money from Saudi Arabia and they put on the definition of a fancy house show, I don't see any way they make a show in Australia in October, prime season for their post-Summerslam "nothing happens mode", in a country on the other side of the world that their main fanbase can't catch live for the most part, is treated as anything Wrestlemania-level.

GRR was not a fancy house show. Maybe the lack of title changes made it feel less than a Wrestlemania, but the card was absolutely stacked from top to bottom and had part-timers that certainly don’t work a lot of, if any, house shows. This is expected to be the same.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Jun 21, 2018 11:06:42 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

Jun 21, 2018 7:58:46 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Come on, really? WWE got crazy amounts of money from Saudi Arabia and they put on the definition of a fancy house show, I don't see any way they make a show in Australia in October, prime season for their post-Summerslam "nothing happens mode", in a country on the other side of the world that their main fanbase can't catch live for the most part, is treated as anything Wrestlemania-level.

GRR was not a fancy house show. Maybe the lack of title changes made it feel less than a Wrestlemania, but the card was absolutely stacked from top to bottom and had part-timers that certainly don’t work a lot of, if any, house shows. This is expected to be the same.

GRR absolutely felt like a house show to me, but moreover, that's not even close to a Wrestlemania-level event. Wrestlemania is a Wrestlemania level event. The massive production value, the pageantry, the big stars... But there's also, maybe more crucially, at least the vague expectation that this will be a big climactic show for major storylines getting their most important matches here. What made GRR really feel like a filler show was that narratively, it didn't really do anything. Lots of filler matches, title feuds going to non-finish non-conclusions that screamed of "Yeah we're just killing time, BUY THE PPV NEXT MONTH TO FIND OUT HOW THIS ENDS". In some ways it stands up to shows like Starrcade last year and the big MSG house shows, which are fancy house shows and where the big-name part-timers absolutely show up and the card is stacked. It was somewhere between an episode of TV and a B-level PPV that just happened to have some major part-timers on it. This is likely to be the same thing, and that is in no way a show on Wrestlemania's level. That's not even a show on Summerslam's level. There's so much more to Mania than Taker and Triple H, and 1.5k for ringside seats is absolute madness.

[KofiMania]

Jun 21, 2018 11:11:26 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Jun 21, 2018 11:06:42 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

GRR was not a fancy house show. Maybe the lack of title changes made it feel less than a Wrestlemania, but the card was absolutely stacked from top to bottom and had part-timers that certainly don’t work a lot of, if any, house shows. This is expected to be the same.

GRR absolutely felt like a house show to me, but moreover, that's not even close to a Wrestlemania-level event. Wrestlemania is a Wrestlemania level event. The massive production value, the pageantry, the big stars... But there's also, maybe more crucially, at least the vague expectation that this will be a big climactic show for major storylines getting their most important matches here. What made GRR really feel like a filler show was that narratively, it didn't really do anything. Lots of filler matches, title feuds going to non-finish non-conclusions that screamed of "Yeah we're just killing time, BUY THE PPV NEXT MONTH TO FIND OUT HOW THIS ENDS". In some ways it stands up to shows like Starrcade last year and the big MSG house shows, which are fancy house shows and where the big-name part-timers absolutely show up and the card is stacked. It was somewhere between an episode of TV and a B-level PPV that just happened to have some major part-timers on it. This is likely to be the same thing, and that is in no way a show on Wrestlemania's level. That's not even a show on Summerslam's level. There's so much more to Mania than Taker and Triple H, and 1.5k for ringside seats is absolute madness.

I’d argue the production/pageantry was similar to Mania and definitely had more pyro. And going in, many thought there would be some big title changes. They obviously went with Lesnar and Styles retaining, which made it seem a little less than Mania (although Lesnar and Styles retained there too). And I do think the part-timers being at Mania is a big part of it.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Jun 21, 2018 11:20:30 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

Jun 21, 2018 11:11:26 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

GRR absolutely felt like a house show to me, but moreover, that's not even close to a Wrestlemania-level event. Wrestlemania is a Wrestlemania level event. The massive production value, the pageantry, the big stars... But there's also, maybe more crucially, at least the vague expectation that this will be a big climactic show for major storylines getting their most important matches here. What made GRR really feel like a filler show was that narratively, it didn't really do anything. Lots of filler matches, title feuds going to non-finish non-conclusions that screamed of "Yeah we're just killing time, BUY THE PPV NEXT MONTH TO FIND OUT HOW THIS ENDS". In some ways it stands up to shows like Starrcade last year and the big MSG house shows, which are fancy house shows and where the big-name part-timers absolutely show up and the card is stacked. It was somewhere between an episode of TV and a B-level PPV that just happened to have some major part-timers on it. This is likely to be the same thing, and that is in no way a show on Wrestlemania's level. That's not even a show on Summerslam's level. There's so much more to Mania than Taker and Triple H, and 1.5k for ringside seats is absolute madness.

I’d argue the production/pageantry was similar to Mania and definitely had more pyro. And going in, many thought there would be some big title changes. They obviously went with Lesnar and Styles retaining, which made it seem a little less than Mania (although Lesnar and Styles retained there too). And I do think the part-timers being at Mania is a big part of it.

No but it's not just title changes it's story, period. GRR was filler. A B-level PPV at best. Much like a house show it just served as a stopgap in the story for a paying audience, resolving nothing and barely even advancing much of it. Wrestlemania is a massive, glitzy, months-long-build for stories and its purpose as the year's climax and where at least presentation-wise only the big matches go down and what happens is supposed to matter serves as what makes it special. Part-timers are a big part of the MSG house shows, too. Even if it felt like a solid PPV to you, that's a very far cry from being equal in value and overall importance to Wrestlemania and demanding ringside tickets of similar cost.

[chronocross]

While I liked the GRR presentation, it felt like a big house show to me, the GRR winner did not get anything other than a trophy/belt for the night, if there was something like the winner got a title shot at the next PPV or something that it would have felt a bit more important.

I feel like this show will be more of the same, a big match with part-timers (HHH vs. Taker) and I'm sure there will be some title defenses, but nothing in terms of big title changes or any angles progressing. I'll still watch of course as I like watching these types of shows, but I don't see much coming out of it, storyline-wise.

[lemonyellowson]

wow.
surely there are going to have enough trouble filling that beast without those prices?

[Old Jack Burton]

Jun 21, 2018 7:30:18 GMT -5 chronocross said:

Yeah that's way too much for basically a big house show.

It's going to be a SummerSlam-tier event. They'll have a huge entrance set, pyro, celebrities, national anthem, all that stuff.

[KofiMania]

Jun 21, 2018 11:30:14 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Jun 21, 2018 11:20:30 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

I’d argue the production/pageantry was similar to Mania and definitely had more pyro. And going in, many thought there would be some big title changes. They obviously went with Lesnar and Styles retaining, which made it seem a little less than Mania (although Lesnar and Styles retained there too). And I do think the part-timers being at Mania is a big part of it.

No but it's not just title changes it's story, period. GRR was filler. A B-level PPV at best. Much like a house show it just served as a stopgap in the story for a paying audience, resolving nothing and barely even advancing much of it. Wrestlemania is a massive, glitzy, months-long-build for stories and its purpose as the year's climax and where at least presentation-wise only the big matches go down and what happens is supposed to matter serves as what makes it special. Part-timers are a big part of the MSG house shows, too. Even if it felt like a solid PPV to you, that's a very far cry from being equal in value and overall importance to Wrestlemania and demanding ringside tickets of similar cost.

It’s an upscale PPV event, likely on Summerslam/Royal Rumble level. Not a glorified house show.

MSG house shows sometimes have a part-timer wrestling. But never ALL of the part-timers wrestling. And there’s usually no stage setup, and it’s usually not broadcast.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Jun 21, 2018 12:40:55 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

Jun 21, 2018 11:30:14 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

No but it's not just title changes it's story, period. GRR was filler. A B-level PPV at best. Much like a house show it just served as a stopgap in the story for a paying audience, resolving nothing and barely even advancing much of it. Wrestlemania is a massive, glitzy, months-long-build for stories and its purpose as the year's climax and where at least presentation-wise only the big matches go down and what happens is supposed to matter serves as what makes it special. Part-timers are a big part of the MSG house shows, too. Even if it felt like a solid PPV to you, that's a very far cry from being equal in value and overall importance to Wrestlemania and demanding ringside tickets of similar cost.

It’s an upscale PPV event, likely on Summerslam/Royal Rumble level. Not a glorified house show.

MSG house shows sometimes have a part-timer wrestling. But never ALL of the part-timers wrestling. And there’s usually no stage setup, and it’s usually not broadcast.

I really can't tell if you understand that "is broadcast" and "stage setup" are precisely the elements I mean when I put "glorified" or "fancy" in front of a house show, while also ignoring the emphasis I'm putting onto the show being a thing that matters and advances any kind of stories. GRR did not mean anything. Non-finishes in the two titles matches, and everything else had a very exhibition kind of feel to it. "Cena and Triple H have a match? Why? Doesn't matter! Taker and Rusev are having a casket match? What? Don't question it, just watch!" That was the way the show was presented all the way to the rumble itself, a big match that meant nothing outside of winning that specific match. That's not a bad thing, but that's not something you're going to convince people to pay Wrestlemania-level prices for. It's just not. Hell same thing here; only match announced right now is Taker/Triple H, and given how neither dude shows up on TV ever that already feels like a very exhibition match kind of thing that won't really get built or mean much. Summerslam is a major show where, again, storylines converge and get resolved. Royal Rumble is the setup to Wrestlemania's main event and generally starts up the whole season of Things Happening Again. Some fancy production doesn't change that they're charging Wrestlemania level prices for what is likely to be Just A Show.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Jun 21, 2018 11:30:14 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Jun 21, 2018 11:20:30 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

I’d argue the production/pageantry was similar to Mania and definitely had more pyro. And going in, many thought there would be some big title changes. They obviously went with Lesnar and Styles retaining, which made it seem a little less than Mania (although Lesnar and Styles retained there too). And I do think the part-timers being at Mania is a big part of it.

No but it's not just title changes it's story, period. GRR was filler. A B-level PPV at best. Much like a house show it just served as a stopgap in the story for a paying audience, resolving nothing and barely even advancing much of it. Wrestlemania is a massive, glitzy, months-long-build for stories and its purpose as the year's climax and where at least presentation-wise only the big matches go down and what happens is supposed to matter serves as what makes it special. Part-timers are a big part of the MSG house shows, too. Even if it felt like a solid PPV to you, that's a very far cry from being equal in value and overall importance to Wrestlemania and demanding ringside tickets of similar cost.

Sumo Guy was there, your argument is invalid.