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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 28, 2018 16:21:56 GMT -5
I believe it was Fall Brawl 93 where the name change occurred. What caused it?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 28, 2018 16:46:20 GMT -5
I believe it was Fall Brawl 93 where the name change occurred. What caused it? I believe New Japan owns the full name and he had to adjust it slightly after NJPW and WCW weren't as strong in relations. |
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Jun 28, 2018 16:47:20 GMT -5
I believe it was Fall Brawl 93 where the name change occurred. What caused it? I believe New Japan owns the full name and he had to adjust it slightly after NJPW and WCW weren't as strong in relations. Correctamundo |
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 28, 2018 17:30:37 GMT -5
I believe it was Fall Brawl 93 where the name change occurred. What caused it? I believe New Japan owns the full name and he had to adjust it slightly after NJPW and WCW weren't as strong in relations. That sucks. Big Van Vader was a stronger name! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 17:32:48 GMT -5
Yep because of NJPW he had to go by Super Vader in UWFI as well
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 28, 2018 17:38:02 GMT -5
I believe New Japan owns the full name and he had to adjust it slightly after NJPW and WCW weren't as strong in relations. That sucks. Big Van Vader was a stronger name! I disagree. I can't really write a thesis on it or anything, I just think it sounds awkward and unappealing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 18:45:11 GMT -5
That sucks. Big Van Vader was a stronger name! I disagree. I can't really write a thesis on it or anything, I just think it sounds awkward and unappealing. Yeah its funny when I was growing up in the early 90s I figured Van was his "first" name and the Big was his nickname and just called him Van Vader all the time |
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jun 28, 2018 19:26:32 GMT -5
I disagree. I can't really write a thesis on it or anything, I just think it sounds awkward and unappealing. Yeah its funny when I was growing up in the early 90s I figured Van was his "first" name and the Big was his nickname and just called him Van Vader all the time Everyone I know that was around in that era called him Van Vader as well. (Not necessarily because it was thought to be his first name, but because it was a heckuva moniker.) Vader also used to refer to him. Never just “Big Van” though. All three words, the last two words, or the last word. And honestly, that appeals to me when you can carry all three options interchangeably and just as effectively. His name was one of the best wrestling names of all time. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Jun 28, 2018 20:16:26 GMT -5
I still remember that typed Cactus Jack promo where they had to edit out "Big Van" and how awkward it looked.
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Post by DSR on Jun 28, 2018 20:23:57 GMT -5
The Man They Call Vader!
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Post by edgestar on Jun 28, 2018 20:28:40 GMT -5
He traded in the big van, and became Sedan Vader
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 28, 2018 20:34:40 GMT -5
What's the origin of the name, anyways? I never heard about it really. I know Van can be a first name, and the Vader part kinda makes sense, but it just seems like a strange name for a wrestler to be given.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 20:53:29 GMT -5
What's the origin of the name, anyways? I never heard about it really. I know Van can be a first name, and the Vader part kinda makes sense, but it just seems like a strange name for a wrestler to be given. Evidently, the name and character was inspired by Japanese folklore. |
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jun 29, 2018 0:35:35 GMT -5
The story goes that Sid Vicious was considered first for this new gaijin character. But the man who would become Vader was just better. So he got it instead. Not trying to start a war since Sid is well-loved here, but they got it right for sure if that story is indeed true.
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Post by cosmo on Jun 29, 2018 0:39:01 GMT -5
Thinking of his name, I'm still amazed to this day that nobody (to my knowledge, anyway) ever got a cease and desist letter from Lucasfilm over the whole "Vader" part.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 29, 2018 1:07:51 GMT -5
The story goes that Sid Vicious was considered first for this new gaijin character. But the man who would become Vader was just better. So he got it instead. Not trying to start a war since Sid is well-loved here, but they got it right for sure if that story is indeed true. The way I have always heard that story was Jim Hellwig AKA Warrior was considered first to be Vader. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 29, 2018 1:18:53 GMT -5
Thinking of his name, I'm still amazed to this day that nobody (to my knowledge, anyway) ever got a cease and desist letter from Lucasfilm over the whole "Vader" part. I'm sure LucasFilm raised an eyebrow, but not much they could do. Both Big Van and Darth were loosely based on the same Japanese folklore character, and "Vader" was a phonetic corruption of his name (Wada). Also, "vader" is a real word in Dutch, and means "father." |
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Post by Ryushinku on Jun 29, 2018 3:23:11 GMT -5
Large Truck Vader.
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Jun 29, 2018 4:36:41 GMT -5
Didn't Vince want to call him The Mastodon before deciding to stick with Vader?
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 29, 2018 5:12:54 GMT -5
Didn't Vince want to call him The Mastodon before deciding to stick with Vader? That's right. |
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