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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 15:32:20 GMT -5
I can understand where she's coming from and I think she's a decent (not one of the best, but serviceable enough) wrestler, but this sounds like something someone told her to say.
I highly doubt she's going to turn into Seth Rollins when she turns face.
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Post by Shai on Jul 23, 2018 15:33:02 GMT -5
.....I really like her less and less the more she talks.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 23, 2018 15:37:51 GMT -5
I love her and I want to say that this is brilliant and such great heel work...
...but yeah, she's talking shit
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 23, 2018 15:44:22 GMT -5
As a performer... The only difference between her wrestling as a face and as a heel would be if she's smiling or if she's got the typical "resting bitch face" snarl. The girl doesn't even take bumps really. The one thing a heel should be doing to make the crowd happy that the bad guy is getting comeuppance. She's fine enough at what she does but she's very, very limited. This interview is "fans boo to be cool" level of eyerolling almost.
As a character... I do think she gets too much flack overall, but nothing evolved with her act and I'm at the point where I have no interest whatsoever. I'm over Mean Girl as the trope that leads the woman divisions in WWE. Hated it with the Bellas, hate it now. It's fine as a character trope don't get me wrong, but when WWE sees it as it somehow makes them the Kayfabe-super-most-bestest... no thanks. I want something new.
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Post by Perd on Jul 23, 2018 15:51:37 GMT -5
I love her and I want to say that this is brilliant and such great heel work... ...but yeah, she's talking shit Yep, that’s pretty much where I’m at with this.
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Post by héad.casé on Jul 23, 2018 15:51:49 GMT -5
I really would like to compare her face work as the Disney Princess gimmick vs how she is now, except as a babyface in NXT she was very green and wasn't used often, and when she was used, it was as enhancement talent until she turned heel.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 23, 2018 16:24:05 GMT -5
Pictured below: Alexa Bliss just being a good heel by not trying to do anything too flashy,
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Post by Aboutreika18 on Jul 23, 2018 16:40:43 GMT -5
This would make sense on a finishing move, like Neville avoiding the Red Arrow as a heel as it popped the crowd, or on a catchphrase, like Rock berating the crowd as a heel for "singing along" with him.
When your job is a wrestler and and you say you're chosing not to wrestle for heel heat, then you're talking out of your arse.
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Post by spagett on Jul 23, 2018 16:48:58 GMT -5
Ah.
Is that why Carmella is so awful in the ring too?
They've been working us the entire time brother!
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Post by The Yes Man on Jul 23, 2018 16:49:18 GMT -5
A heels main job is to bump for the babyface but she really doesn’t even do that so I call bullshit.
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Post by chrom on Jul 23, 2018 16:52:13 GMT -5
Help me find my head FAN, I rolled my eyes so hard it fell off.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jul 23, 2018 16:55:53 GMT -5
I’ll just add that Alexa’s bumping is half-assed and whenever anything comes near her face she doesn’t let it get anywhere near and has phantom bumps frequently. She is truly the greatest method actress of our generation. Sasha broke her nose on accident in NX and literally since that point she’s been afraid to take a bump on her face. I have no idea why Albert, Del Rey, or a main roster agent hasn’t pulled her aside and told her not to be such a pussy about taking a face bump.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 23, 2018 16:55:57 GMT -5
Honestly, as a performer, she's fine. Hell, better than fine. She’s really good. It’s her booking that spoils the package. Every couple of years, there’s someone that sucks up all the heat and interest out of a women’s division. For a while, it was Michelle McCool. Most recently, it was Charlotte. Now, Alexa has got the crown. Two years from now, Liv Morgan or some other blonde woman will take the crown This. She's not wrong, but her booking has been completely ass backwards. She's dominating far too much against (in most cases) bigger, stronger opponents and winning clean far too big a percentage of the time. THAT'S why people are pissed at her Don't be pissed at her, be pissed at whichever road agent decided someone who's 5 feet tall needs to be dominant in a match with Samoa Joan
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 23, 2018 16:58:42 GMT -5
"I don't get enough credit, but here's the thing, I'm a bad guy. Who likes a bad guy that does a lot of flashy things? You know what I mean? It is my job to be hated, so if that means coming in when the opportunity is right and cashing in on other people's misfortunes in the ring that is what I am going to do. "Now, when I become a good guy, are people going to see a brand new skill set from me? Absolutely. Right now, my job isn't to wow the crowd with my in-ring ability, my job is to be hated, which is what I love to do. My job is to be hated because people get that much madder when I win a title because they talk about me not being able to wrestle in the ring---I can, but I am choosing not to, and the fact that when I win and they are getting angry that only means that I am doing my job that much more." wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0721/643000/alexa-bliss-on-not-getting-credit-for-her-ring-work/Come on, dog
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 23, 2018 16:58:50 GMT -5
I’ll just add that Alexa’s bumping is half-assed and whenever anything comes near her face she doesn’t let it get anywhere near and has phantom bumps frequently. She is truly the greatest method actress of our generation. Sasha broke her nose on accident in NX and literally since that point she’s been afraid to take a bump on her face. I have no idea why Albert, Del Rey, or a main roster agent hasn’t pulled her aside and told her not to be such a pussy about taking a face bump. I'm sorry, how many people ever told Ric Flair to do flat back bumps?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 17:08:45 GMT -5
I'm with others in that I think she gets beat up too much. She does take bumps, her bumps aren't the problem, it's the fear of getting hit too hard in the face that looks bad but honestly I likely wouldn't even notice tha if it wasn't pointed out to me. I think she's serviceable in the ring. Ideally I wish her matches were laid out in a fashion that's more of a cross between her current style and what Carmella does. She's booked to be a better fighter than I'm willing to believe. She's over so what can ya do.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 23, 2018 17:16:49 GMT -5
Sasha broke her nose on accident in NX and literally since that point she’s been afraid to take a bump on her face. I have no idea why Albert, Del Rey, or a main roster agent hasn’t pulled her aside and told her not to be such a pussy about taking a face bump. I'm sorry, how many people ever told Ric Flair to do flat back bumps? Are we really comparing Ric Flair not being able to take back bumps onto a visible lump in his back after surviving a plane crash to a broken nose? Come on now.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 23, 2018 17:24:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry, how many people ever told Ric Flair to do flat back bumps? Are we really comparing Ric Flair not being able to take back bumps onto a visible lump in his back after surviving a plane crash to a broken nose? Come on now. In terms of killing her career, yes. She lost like 6 months of her career the first time, she's probably afraid of losing another 6, her spot at the top, and because Vince is a dickhole, probably getting kicked down to jobber status if the surgery doesn't heal right.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 23, 2018 17:33:43 GMT -5
Are we really comparing Ric Flair not being able to take back bumps onto a visible lump in his back after surviving a plane crash to a broken nose? Come on now. In terms of killing her career, yes. She lost like 6 months of her career the first time, she's probably afraid of losing another 6, her spot at the top, and because Vince is a dickhole, probably getting kicked down to jobber status if the surgery doesn't heal right. Maybe this isn't the career for her, then. How many performers have broken their faces over the years yet kept wrestling properly? Cena, Trish, Cody, Undertaker, Cesaro, the list goes on. You can't start selling dropkicks from a foot back because you're nervous.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 23, 2018 17:36:35 GMT -5
Honestly, as a performer, she's fine. Hell, better than fine. She’s really good. It’s her booking that spoils the package. Every couple of years, there’s someone that sucks up all the heat and interest out of a women’s division. For a while, it was Michelle McCool. Most recently, it was Charlotte. Now, Alexa has got the crown. Two years from now, Liv Morgan or some other blonde woman will take the crown This. She's not wrong, but her booking has been completely ass backwards. She's dominating far too much against (in most cases) bigger, stronger opponents and winning clean far too big a percentage of the time. THAT'S why people are pissed at her It’s what I call being the Sunday Specialist. Bliss loses all the time on regular TV, but somehow almost always wins on the PPV.
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