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Post by héad.casé on Jul 23, 2018 12:06:38 GMT -5
"I don't get enough credit, but here's the thing, I'm a bad guy. Who likes a bad guy that does a lot of flashy things? You know what I mean? It is my job to be hated, so if that means coming in when the opportunity is right and cashing in on other people's misfortunes in the ring that is what I am going to do. "Now, when I become a good guy, are people going to see a brand new skill set from me? Absolutely. Right now, my job isn't to wow the crowd with my in-ring ability, my job is to be hated, which is what I love to do. My job is to be hated because people get that much madder when I win a title because they talk about me not being able to wrestle in the ring---I can, but I am choosing not to, and the fact that when I win and they are getting angry that only means that I am doing my job that much more." wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0721/643000/alexa-bliss-on-not-getting-credit-for-her-ring-work/
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jul 23, 2018 12:09:48 GMT -5
Reminds me of ECW Foley. Well played
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 23, 2018 12:09:54 GMT -5
Alexa tripped me and caused the spaghetti to fall out of my pocket and I cried in front of the whole class
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 23, 2018 12:11:16 GMT -5
Yeah, um, sure...
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 23, 2018 12:11:35 GMT -5
I still think Big Show put it best.
<Crowd> YOU CAN'T WRESTLE!
<Big Show> I DON'T HAVE TO!
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 23, 2018 12:13:02 GMT -5
I still think Big Show put it best. <Crowd> YOU CAN'T WRESTLE! <Big Show> I DON'T HAVE TO! Austin Aries: I’ve had plenty of five star matches. I want a five star bank account
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Post by rrh on Jul 23, 2018 12:13:14 GMT -5
Yeah... right...
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 23, 2018 12:17:02 GMT -5
Honestly, as a performer, she's fine. Hell, better than fine. She’s really good. It’s her booking that spoils the package. Every couple of years, there’s someone that sucks up all the heat and interest out of a women’s division. For a while, it was Michelle McCool. Most recently, it was Charlotte. Now, Alexa has got the crown. Two years from now, Liv Morgan or some other blonde woman will take the crown
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 12:21:38 GMT -5
.....I don't know enough about her & her matches to determine if I hate this answer or not.
It seems like a lame answer, but it might not be ..... and if anything an opposition to it seems like me clinging to some old school trope which I'm sick of hearing of much less wanting to do.
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Post by Yacht Persona on Jul 23, 2018 12:27:13 GMT -5
I see now, so when she turns babyface, she'll finally start bumping correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 12:29:29 GMT -5
Lemme be real here...
Yeah, that's what heels are supposed to do. Heels aren't supposed to do flashy things, they're not supposed to get you to like them, they're supposed to be horrible and having a flaccid moveset is one of the ways they can show that. Alexa's right here and that's honestly one of the reasons Styles, while he's better as a heel, wasn't a great one. Dude's moveset is too CAW-like. Alexa's right. But...Alexa still does that flashy stuff. She still does those special moves when she needs to. It's not as if she's cutting them out, she just does them when it's a big league match. She's acting like she chooses to wrestle this way on purpose but the reality of the situation is that's as great as she can be. I mean just check her previous matches out.
I get what she's saying but the question needs to be is how Alexa would look going all out in the ring compared to now. There's not much difference.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 23, 2018 12:33:34 GMT -5
Reminds me of ECW Foley. Well played Lol Cactus Jack once acted like he was gonna hit someone with a chair but instead threw it away to use a headlock, the fans started to cuss him out. Raven said it was the only time the ecw fans did a wave in the middle of a match.
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Post by tenshi on Jul 23, 2018 12:36:51 GMT -5
On one side, she's right in that heels shouldn't do flashy stuff and outperform faces. Then again, when faces are shown as idiots with short tempers and you end up dominating them anyways, there are things to be desired. I mean, a clumsy workrate and awkward bumping will make people boo you but I don't think it'd be because you play a bad guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 12:37:46 GMT -5
Not entertaining is not entertaining. More than being booed your primary concern should be putting on a good show.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 23, 2018 12:40:07 GMT -5
Honestly, as a performer, she's fine. Hell, better than fine. She’s really good. It’s her booking that spoils the package. Every couple of years, there’s someone that sucks up all the heat and interest out of a women’s division. For a while, it was Michelle McCool. Most recently, it was Charlotte. Now, Alexa has got the crown. Two years from now, Liv Morgan or some other blonde woman will take the crown This. She's not wrong, but her booking has been completely ass backwards. She's dominating far too much against (in most cases) bigger, stronger opponents and winning clean far too big a percentage of the time. THAT'S why people are pissed at her
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 12:45:16 GMT -5
Honestly, as a performer, she's fine. Hell, better than fine. She’s really good. It’s her booking that spoils the package. Every couple of years, there’s someone that sucks up all the heat and interest out of a women’s division. For a while, it was Michelle McCool. Most recently, it was Charlotte. Now, Alexa has got the crown. Two years from now, Liv Morgan or some other blonde woman will take the crown Agreed. For a while, I could not stand Charlotte due to her booking. I don’t really mind Alexa because she’s a great performer and a damn good promo. But, much like most of the roster, her booking is yikes.
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Post by Doctor No on Jul 23, 2018 12:47:52 GMT -5
The BS runs deep here. I just wonder who gave her this "layers to my wrestling psychology game" gem to run with.
Soooo, any heel to have ever wrestled well was doing it wrong. Hmm?
"Who likes a bad guy that does a lot of flashy things?" Ummm, one of your MULTIPLE finishers is a top rope twisty flippy thing.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 23, 2018 12:51:53 GMT -5
Honky Tonk Man said the following in a shoot, "listen when the fans start chanting boring, well we'll just take it down a notch. First they get bored then they get mad."
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Post by PKO on Jul 23, 2018 13:03:25 GMT -5
I'm sure she gets people every day tweeting her rude shit about her wrestling, which is probably who she's directing this to. She isn't as bad as some people out there make her out to be.
That said, I don't think her wrestling is good enough for someone in the position she is in, and I don't think that's a conscious decision on her part. She avoids strikes by about a foot, but still sells them (Carmella also does this). Her bumps are often incredibly ugly looking, and put her at more risk of things going wrong (which is ironically what she's probably trying to avoid). Those aren't decisions that have been made to get heat, those are flaws of her as a performer. They make her matches less enjoyable. There's a difference between that and being a performer who uses simple, non-flashy moves so as to not get cheers.
Ultimately though,it's her booking that has made me uninterested in her. I think she's talented on the mic and performing her character, but she has been way, way, WAY overpushed, and her matches are terribly structured and laid out. Isn't she something like a 5 time champion? Ridiculous.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jul 23, 2018 13:08:14 GMT -5
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