Mr Captain Falcon
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Aug 17, 2018 4:27:49 GMT -5
What is someone in protective custody allowed to have in terms of possessions and do while in their cell? I've only worked at one state DOC, so I can't say how other states compare. In Wyoming, they had an altered rec and library schedule, all after the other units were locked down, but otherwise their privileges were pretty commensurate with general population. We have two different groups of PC inmates. Those who are PC because they're afraid/snitches or have too many enemies, and the sex offenders. Our sex offenders have damn near zero interaction with the general population of the prison. The only time they're around other inmates is when they go to and from gym/yard And have to pass by where inmate workers are, and when they go to court they're sent through an area where everyone else just kind of hangs out waiting to be called. The other PC inmates are housed either on the disciplinary segregation or administrative segregation unit but get separate and much less out time due to trying to give out time to so many more classifications of inmates housed on their unit and the amount of inmates out at a time is limited to 3 on a unit that may house up to 40 inmates. They all get commissary as much as they are able, law library, television, phone access etc etc as long as they are not on disciplinary segregation.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 17, 2018 12:28:23 GMT -5
Something I've always wondered but probably not something you would be involved in, but you might know from being in the industry.. When they are sending someone out to be executed, and they take a heart attack or suffer an injury ( trip falling down stairs and break a leg), is the execution halted get them to hospital and kill them a different day? I would hazard a guess that yes, the execution would be halted until the inmate was stabilized. The state has a responsibility to that inmate's health right up until the buttons are pushed. It would be a massive liability and violation of policy and probably state statute if staff were deliberately indifferent to an inmate just because he was set to be executed shortly after.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 18, 2018 13:34:35 GMT -5
This is an observation about myself I made yesterday, which I found amusing, and thought I'd share here.
Yesterday I checked out a mall is never been to before. Going into an unknown, with a bunch of people moving around me, and without realizing it I had my truck keys in my hand, and I was flipping the key part in and out (one of those keys where the key is just a slender two inch metal piece that flips and out of the key fob).
That's an old CO trick when you're on a unit with the possibility of being assaulted. You're doing a watch tour and you just happen to have your keys or even a pen in your hand. If things go south, that can make your strikes even more effective.
I subconsciously responded the same way at a mall as I do in a housing unit. Talk about being institutionalized.
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Doctor Of Style
King Koopa
Well, first they love me, and then they don't. Sometimes they do it, and sometimes they won't.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Aug 18, 2018 18:16:15 GMT -5
Did you ever see anything particularly ingenious or impressive that an inmate MacGyvered together?
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 18, 2018 18:26:59 GMT -5
Did you ever see anything particularly ingenious or impressive that an inmate MacGyvered together? They make impressive tattoo guns out of random stuff. I also found a paper clip that was hooked in such a way to be able to ratchet a cuff tighter. The reason? Ratchet it down tight enough, cause permanent damage, boom lawsuit. I would consider that ingenious. There are also the shanks made from wet toilet paper, a million little things. The most ingenious I've seen is what food they're able to make just from the junk food they get off commissary.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 18, 2018 18:33:09 GMT -5
This is an observation about myself I made yesterday, which I found amusing, and thought I'd share here. Yesterday I checked out a mall is never been to before. Going into an unknown, with a bunch of people moving around me, and without realizing it I had my truck keys in my hand, and I was flipping the key part in and out (one of those keys where the key is just a slender two inch metal piece that flips and out of the key fob). That's an old CO trick when you're on a unit with the possibility of being assaulted. You're doing a watch tour and you just happen to have your keys or even a pen in your hand. If things go south, that can make your strikes even more effective. I subconsciously responded the same way at a mall as I do in a housing unit. Talk about being institutionalized. Not for nothing but I’d imagine strikes with a pen could do serious damage. Even if you were attacked, would that not expose you to considerable litigation after the fact in terms of disproportionate force?
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 18, 2018 18:47:20 GMT -5
This is an observation about myself I made yesterday, which I found amusing, and thought I'd share here. Yesterday I checked out a mall is never been to before. Going into an unknown, with a bunch of people moving around me, and without realizing it I had my truck keys in my hand, and I was flipping the key part in and out (one of those keys where the key is just a slender two inch metal piece that flips and out of the key fob). That's an old CO trick when you're on a unit with the possibility of being assaulted. You're doing a watch tour and you just happen to have your keys or even a pen in your hand. If things go south, that can make your strikes even more effective. I subconsciously responded the same way at a mall as I do in a housing unit. Talk about being institutionalized. Not for nothing but I’d imagine strikes with a pen could do serious damage. Even if you were attacked, would that not expose you to considerable litigation after the fact in terms of disproportionate force? That's why it just happened to be in my hand. I didn't attack him with it, or with the intent to use it on him, but in the course of defending myself, I didn't have time to put it away. Similar situations have already gone to court and the court sided with the officer.
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