Legion
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Post by Legion on Dec 8, 2018 13:58:15 GMT -5
To be fair. Graham has had a bit of that with his wife, but the Doctor, and even the grandson dont really seem to care.
Everything really does feel emotionally disconnected
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Post by schma on Dec 10, 2018 6:10:58 GMT -5
I can definitely understand some of the complaints here but there were several elements of this season that felt refreshing. One was the lack of Daleks and Cybermen. They are iconic villains but they are overused. It seems like every big event or story always seems to relate to them somehow which given how many times they've been 'completely wiped out' is a bit annoying.
I was very much not a fan of Moffatt's work as head writer (his stuff under RTD was fantastic). He consistently had plotholes large enough for tanks to drive through (weeping angels can't move if people can look at them but apparently the statue of liberty walking around with booming footsteps won't get anyone to take a look. No one in New York is looking at it) and it often seemed like characters were forced to act in a way that fit his plot idea. By the end of his tenure, watching Doctor Who felt almost like a chore. This season I have actively looked forward to the episodes and it has been a long time since I could say that. While none of them are likely to be considered all time greats, Jodie's take on the Doctor is refreshing. While the companions may not have had the strongest arcs I do feel that over the course of the season I've grown to know them quite well. I have a fair sense of their motivations and concerns. Graham is likely the best developed though. Overall, I think it was a decent season, far batter than Matt Smith's first season which almost made me give up on the show entirely (because of the writing, not Matt Smith).
There were some low points in some of the episodes though and I will readily admit that.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 10, 2018 6:36:27 GMT -5
This was my least favourite series since the show returned.
Not from being terrible (although Ghost Monument, Arachnids and Tsuranga tried their worst), but through underwhelming mediocrity, wasting good ideas and general anticlimax.
Plaudits to Rosa, Demons and Kerblam! for offering something to make me watch to watch them again at some point. The rest, I don't know when I'll bother. And that sucks to write, I love this show and I'm not going away or anything, but I feel let down.
And now no Series 12 until 2020...
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Dec 10, 2018 12:25:55 GMT -5
probably the WEAKEST OVERALL but that doesn't make it the worst either, all the motivations are there and follow through perfectly (tim shaw and REVEEEEEEEENGE) and the fact they wrote it so he would be flung back into the past, all that time stewing in his own juices LITERALLY, but i quite like the stenza sensibilities! the whole keeping trophies trope is interesting, not only those in their "training", but generally too .....okay they're copies of predators really ..... without the charm and wit and a LOT of unanswered questions ..... WHO IS THE TIMELESS CHILD? who gave timmy the unlock code for the sniper robots?? and where can i find some good wellies liked the new species, always liked new species coming into the tome of who, and there hasn't been ONE that has been a complete disappointment! feels like HALF a season really, but not really, and very VERY HAPPY that jodie is STILL THE GOD DAMN DOCTOR now we come to an old foe on new years day ..... BRING IT!!!
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Dec 10, 2018 23:32:06 GMT -5
I am a tad bit surprised that a lot of the Who fandom couldn't give two Ux about Season 11.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Dec 11, 2018 13:28:12 GMT -5
I remember before the season started that some people were skeptical about a woman taking over the role of the Doctor. Fair enough. The role has been played very well by a man since the 60s so it’s a big change but I think Jodie Whitaker did a fine job. She was believable and kept the traditional feel of the role. There were no feminist messages or whatever people were afraid of messing with the show. The cast was likable and they grew as characters as the season progressed.
I think the problem with the show is still the writing. It’s not terrible but it’s not great either. For example I enjoyed the slow pacing and feel of the Kerblam! episode but the reveal of the villain and the resolution felt entirely rushed, a bit sloppily thrown together and fell a bit flat. The Eccleston / Tennant years were super addictive and I think a lot of fans have been craving to have that feeling back. It’s like we’ve been taking a step down ever since that time and fans really want a step up to head back in that direction. Any devoted fan can name well over a dozen memorable episodes from those early years. Unfortunately this season only gave us a couple very good episodes but no real classics and that comes down to the writing of the stories. The characters are great for the most part. They’ll continue to grow. What they have to work within needs some improvement.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 11, 2018 13:56:36 GMT -5
Finally got back into Doctor Who!
Watched season 8, then got sidetracked on other things, and finally picked up season nine
Sleep No More is the worst garbage I've ever seen. f***ing eye booger monsters.
The season really redeemed itself with Face the Raven and Heaven Sent though.
Just have to watch the season finale and the Husbands of River Song, then its on to 10.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 11, 2018 14:21:15 GMT -5
I've been watching and I've generally liked it but... as I've said... multiple times...
the stories for the most part don't have a natural arc to the climax... it just kinda... and now we solve the problem episode over.
I have actually liked it much better than like all of Capaldi's run...
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 11, 2018 14:24:24 GMT -5
With the rumors of Chibnall and Jodie Whittaker being a one-and-done team, I've been thinking about it in comparison with the first season of the revival, since Eccleston only played The Doctor for a season as well and it's just night and day. Well the rumor is Whittaker and Chibnall are doing two series... but no they have not done any two parters... and that would probably have helped some of my problems with the series... since as I 've said the majority of the episode build up a mystery... then finally mystery revealed and then it's solved in like 2 minutes.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 11, 2018 17:03:21 GMT -5
I've been watching and I've generally liked it but... as I've said... multiple times... the stories for the most part don't have a natural arc to the climax... it just kinda... and now we solve the problem episode over. I have actually liked it much better than like all of Capaldi's run... A lot of that feels like the tendency of the contemporary show squeezing 3-4 episodes of content into 2. Modern Who's had that issue in both the RTD and Moffat eras, and while its helped it avoid the padding that could happen in the classic series, its now led to series 11 lacking certain tension precisely because you know the main problem will be fixed by the end of the episode.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 11, 2018 17:10:06 GMT -5
I've been watching and I've generally liked it but... as I've said... multiple times... the stories for the most part don't have a natural arc to the climax... it just kinda... and now we solve the problem episode over. I have actually liked it much better than like all of Capaldi's run... A lot of that feels like the tendency of the contemporary show squeezing 3-4 episodes of content into 2. Modern Who's had that issue in both the RTD and Moffat eras, and while its helped it avoid the padding that could happen in the classic series, its now led to series 11 lacking certain tension precisely because you know the main problem will be fixed by the end of the episode. Yeah, I mentioned a few times that it happened in older series too... I think it's just REALLY noticeable when there isn't the over arching storyline behind it too...
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Dec 11, 2018 19:03:07 GMT -5
To say something positive about the season, Graham is my second favorite companion of the revival after Bill. Since her tenure was so short, he may slip into the lead in a couple years if he keeps up the good work.
And I thought the last two episodes were pretty good. Not necessarily finale-worth material, but fine enough adventures.
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Post by Rave on Dec 11, 2018 20:31:48 GMT -5
I agree with the sentiment that this season felt incomplete. To me, it felt like it was strung together without that much to really link it.
In the interest of more/better character development, it may be worth it to cut out a companion entirely. I'd nominate Yasmin, she's decent but superfluous when compared to the Graham/Ryan dynamic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 19:46:49 GMT -5
I did my usual and recorded all episodes then watched after it was done
I quite enjoyed the series apart from the Spider episode....that was just meh
Really liking Whittaker as The Doctor but yeah like others have said, the lack of an over arching plot thread is my biggest complaint. I understand wanting to simplify things but I don’t think it works
I did like however that there was no Daleks or Cybermen etc. When I mentioned this to my friend he said yeah no established villains, I’d say overused is a better word
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Post by schma on Dec 15, 2018 20:11:15 GMT -5
I did my usual and recorded all episodes then watched after it was done I quite enjoyed the series apart from the Spider episode....that was just meh Really liking Whittaker as The Doctor but yeah like others have said, the lack of an over arching plot thread is my biggest complaint. I understand wanting to simplify things but I don’t think it works I did like however that there was no Daleks or Cybermen etc. When I mentioned this to my friend he said yeah no established villains, I’d say overused is a better word No Daleks or Cybermen was my favourite part.
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Post by the2ndevil on Dec 25, 2018 13:49:42 GMT -5
I’m visiting my family for Christmas, which is allowing me to catch up on the show, since I wasn’t able to watch when it aired.
It is just so fresh refreshing, as a whole. It’s like, the fun is back in a big way.
Currently on Demons Of The Punjab.
Seems like this season has more emphasis on stories set in the past than it has in a while.
I really liked Krasko as a villain in Rosa, and would like to see him show back up later on.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Jan 1, 2019 20:32:26 GMT -5
"Do you how fast you were going? 120 miles an hour"
how the hell does the BBC not know the UK is on the metric system?!?!?!
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 1, 2019 20:50:36 GMT -5
I started watching this but realized I checked out awhile ago and now there's only 10 minutes left in it.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jan 1, 2019 21:08:46 GMT -5
left the best until last! AWESOME EPISODE and i watched episode 10 again and it was a LOT better too
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 1, 2019 22:13:33 GMT -5
Fortunately, there were more than 10 minutes left and I picked it up. Slow beginning but an overall good adventure.
When they come back in 2020, they either need to find a point for Yaz or let her go.
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