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Post by mrbananagrabber on Sept 27, 2018 3:44:14 GMT -5
For someone who made his name in another company it’s amazing how quickly AJ turned into a “WWE guy.” Like, he just looks like he belongs there.
Dixie’s offer was obviously a “grass is greener” type deal where AJ was just another guy and the next guy to leave WWE was their big star. Man did that come back to bite them. AJ went from being offered peanuts to main eventing WWE and a solid gold certainty Hall of Fame career.
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Post by héad.casé on Sept 27, 2018 4:57:43 GMT -5
60%?! F***ing hell. Now they look even worse for trying to contractblock him coming to WWE. More than that! AJ said 60% was being generous!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 27, 2018 5:14:39 GMT -5
60%?! F***ing hell. Now they look even worse for trying to contractblock him coming to WWE. More than that! AJ said 60% was being generous! They essentially wanted him to work for peanuts it seems
You would think after all the years he took paycuts in TNA and I would guess was probably making 70% of what he was actually worth, they would have tried to up him a little bit to say you are our guy
By giving him a greatly reduced offer you treated him like a chump and thought he was just going to take it because of TNA loyalty
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 6:07:12 GMT -5
Timing is everything. This ended up working perfectly for AJ. He left TNA at the right time and went to the WWE at the right time (if he went there years earlier he probably has a different name right now). Good for him. Not making him and Joe the top guys in the company in the ‘10’s was laughable. I guess the world was too busy asking for that Ken Anderson super push.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 27, 2018 6:57:01 GMT -5
Everyone and their dogs could see AJ had to be their main star.
Everyone except TNA
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 27, 2018 8:27:55 GMT -5
It's honestly kind of inspiring how after years of TNA just completely wasting AJ and paying lip service to the idea of him being their top guy while never actually treating him like it, he eventually wound up in WWE where they pretty much immediately recognized his value and pushed him to the moon. Which is astounding that Vince McMahon of all people saw it (not at first), but Dixie never did. That speaks volumes.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Sept 27, 2018 9:20:14 GMT -5
I'd love for there to be a roast of Dixie Carter where she has to sit there and listen to every stupid thing she's done for six hours. That could be the reality show you were so desperate for, Dixie! If for some reason WWE acquires or is allowed access to the TNA/IMPACT video library, I would love a "self destruction of Dixie Carter" DVD...this would be amazing.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 27, 2018 9:49:17 GMT -5
He was talking about Bobby Roode. Bruce left right before the AJ clusterf***, he wasn’t part of that. Yea, Roode has weird contract situations too. Didn’t his 2nd to last contract run out while he was still champ ? I believe tag team champ And then obviously he was able to get free of his last contract and go right to WWE because of them owing him and EY money Roo was holding the TNA Tag Team Titles with Austin Aries when his contract ran out.
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Post by realist on Sept 27, 2018 10:42:52 GMT -5
In defense of TNA, it's not like he was drawing at the time. I mean, I am happy that he went on to make tons of money and have the career achievements that his talent deserves. But, at the time, it's not like he was filling arenas, selling ppvs and merchandise, and all that stuff.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 27, 2018 11:36:54 GMT -5
In defense of TNA, it's not like he was drawing at the time. I mean, I am happy that he went on to make tons of money and have the career achievements that his talent deserves. But, at the time, it's not like he was filling arenas, selling ppvs and merchandise, and all that stuff. But in saying that when they were at their top he was taking a pay cut so they can have all these other guys. He was NEVER positioned as the guy there until the very end when Dixie said he was coming into his own. In a sense they could have made due with him in saying listen this is make up for the past and you are our guy. Hell, as said already he was comfortable at the contract he was at and would have taken the same money with no bump in pay At the end of the day it’s nothing more than a slap to the face to AJ that they even approached him with such a lowball contract. They essentially dared him to leave and he did so
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Post by realist on Sept 27, 2018 11:50:37 GMT -5
In defense of TNA, it's not like he was drawing at the time. I mean, I am happy that he went on to make tons of money and have the career achievements that his talent deserves. But, at the time, it's not like he was filling arenas, selling ppvs and merchandise, and all that stuff. But in saying that when they were at their top he was taking a pay cut so they can have all these other guys. He was NEVER positioned as the guy there until the very end when Dixie said he was coming into his own. In a sense they could have made due with him in saying listen this is make up for the past and you are our guy. Hell, as said already he was comfortable at the contract he was at and would have taken the same money with no bump in pay At the end of the day it’s nothing more than a slap to the face to AJ that they even approached him with such a lowball contract. They essentially dared him to leave and he did so I actually agree with you 100%. It was absolutely a slap in the face to AJ. I was just 1.) playing Devil's Advocate and 2.) trying to put at least some logic behind a seemingly illogical Dixie Carter decision. I like to think that that was at least her reasoning and that she didn't just wake up one morning and decided to crap on her company's MVP and top guy.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 27, 2018 12:06:00 GMT -5
But in saying that when they were at their top he was taking a pay cut so they can have all these other guys. He was NEVER positioned as the guy there until the very end when Dixie said he was coming into his own. In a sense they could have made due with him in saying listen this is make up for the past and you are our guy. Hell, as said already he was comfortable at the contract he was at and would have taken the same money with no bump in pay At the end of the day it’s nothing more than a slap to the face to AJ that they even approached him with such a lowball contract. They essentially dared him to leave and he did so I actually agree with you 100%. It was absolutely a slap in the face to AJ. I was just 1.) playing Devil's Advocate and 2.) trying to put at least some logic behind a seemingly illogical Dixie Carter decision. I like to think that that was at least her reasoning and that she didn't just wake up one morning and decided to crap on her company's MVP and top guy. Yeah that’s the thing tho I don’t think she looked at him as the MVP and top guy which is why he got that lowball offer. This just seems to be “we love you AJ but if you love us like you say you do you’ll take this pay cut” Hell, I wonder what the new offer was after he was leaving Japan because he entertained going back to Impact after leaving Japan if WWE didn’t call
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 13:43:58 GMT -5
Dixie would lowball wrestlers while posting luxury vacation pics on social media
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Sept 27, 2018 13:53:05 GMT -5
I actually agree with you 100%. It was absolutely a slap in the face to AJ. I was just 1.) playing Devil's Advocate and 2.) trying to put at least some logic behind a seemingly illogical Dixie Carter decision. I like to think that that was at least her reasoning and that she didn't just wake up one morning and decided to crap on her company's MVP and top guy. Yeah that’s the thing tho I don’t think she looked at him as the MVP and top guy which is why he got that lowball offer. This just seems to be “we love you AJ but if you love us like you say you do you’ll take this pay cut” Hell, I wonder what the new offer was after he was leaving Japan because he entertained going back to Impact after leaving Japan if WWE didn’t call She probably expected him to be a mark for the whole "face of TNA" thing, or be a "Good soldier" like Abyss is said to be.
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Post by lionheart21 on Sept 27, 2018 15:56:33 GMT -5
That maybe the smartest thing I've heard a wrestler say. Not just because of TNA but every company. I'm sure at some point they do it for the love of wrestling and to be a part of it but at some point you have to make money, not everyone can do this for a hobby. AJ definitely has the right mindset with regards to this. To quote The Joker, "If you're good at something, never do it for free." As I get older, I look back at some of the guys like Kevin Nash that said that they mainly just did wrestling for the money. And honestly, I can't judge them for that mindset. If you're at a job as physically demanding as pro wrestling is, you should be looking to get the best payday that you can get. I also wonder: by TNA's standards, how much was AJ getting paid in the first place, before the proposed pay cut?
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Post by lionheart21 on Sept 27, 2018 15:57:26 GMT -5
Yeah that’s the thing tho I don’t think she looked at him as the MVP and top guy which is why he got that lowball offer. This just seems to be “we love you AJ but if you love us like you say you do you’ll take this pay cut” Hell, I wonder what the new offer was after he was leaving Japan because he entertained going back to Impact after leaving Japan if WWE didn’t call She probably expected him to be a mark for the whole "face of TNA" thing, or be a "Good soldier" like Abyss is said to be. Which is why AJ is where he is, and Abyss is still there.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 27, 2018 16:03:21 GMT -5
That maybe the smartest thing I've heard a wrestler say. Not just because of TNA but every company. I'm sure at some point they do it for the love of wrestling and to be a part of it but at some point you have to make money, not everyone can do this for a hobby. AJ definitely has the right mindset with regards to this. To quote The Joker, "If you're good at something, never do it for free." As I get older, I look back at some of the guys like Kevin Nash that said that they mainly just did wrestling for the money. And honestly, I can't judge them for that mindset. If you're at a job as physically demanding as pro wrestling is, you should be looking to get the best payday that you can get. I also wonder: by TNA's standards, how much was AJ getting paid in the first place, before the proposed pay cut? www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/0725/579364/aj-styles-reveals-how-much-money-he-turned-down-from-tna/
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Post by Crow Dust on Sept 27, 2018 16:31:03 GMT -5
I'd love for there to be a roast of Dixie Carter where she has to sit there and listen to every stupid thing she's done for six hours. That could be the reality show you were so desperate for, Dixie! ”welcome to the Comedy Central roast of Dixie Carter presented by Daffney featuring roast master Jesse Sorensen”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 16:54:06 GMT -5
AJ definitely has the right mindset with regards to this. To quote The Joker, "If you're good at something, never do it for free." As I get older, I look back at some of the guys like Kevin Nash that said that they mainly just did wrestling for the money. And honestly, I can't judge them for that mindset. If you're at a job as physically demanding as pro wrestling is, you should be looking to get the best payday that you can get. I also wonder: by TNA's standards, how much was AJ getting paid in the first place, before the proposed pay cut? www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/0725/579364/aj-styles-reveals-how-much-money-he-turned-down-from-tna/What that tells me is AJ Styles can’t math if he says that’s over a 60% cut, though to be fair I didn’t really figure he could.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 27, 2018 16:56:41 GMT -5
What that tells me is AJ Styles can’t math if he says that’s over a 60% cut, though to be fair I didn’t really figure he could. Yea, either way that's close to half and losing $150,000 or around that is a good chunk of change to lose
Keep in mind the dude just made over $2Mill last year which sort of answers my question earlier about how much we think he made in total in TNA as compared to one year in WWE
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