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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 16, 2019 2:34:45 GMT -5
About 20 years ago, I struck up a friendship with Chris Adams after he shopped the video store I was managing. We talked here and there about the VEs and he generally liked them, had some ups and downs with them but they had done a lot for him, etc. Talking about Kevin, it was about the same but he said there was something about Kevin he could never really put his finger on. Something "missing" as he put it. Always felt more distant than the rest of the family.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 16, 2019 2:41:56 GMT -5
About 20 years ago, I struck up a friendship with Chris Adams after he shopped the video store I was managing. We talked here and there about the VEs and he generally liked them, had some ups and downs with them but they had done a lot for him, etc. Talking about Kevin, it was about the same but he said there was something about Kevin he could never really put his finger on. Something "missing" as he put it. Always felt more distant than the rest of the family. Did Chris mentioned the awkward story about his wife having an affair with Kerry?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 16, 2019 3:00:10 GMT -5
About 20 years ago, I struck up a friendship with Chris Adams after he shopped the video store I was managing. We talked here and there about the VEs and he generally liked them, had some ups and downs with them but they had done a lot for him, etc. Talking about Kevin, it was about the same but he said there was something about Kevin he could never really put his finger on. Something "missing" as he put it. Always felt more distant than the rest of the family. Did Chris mentioned the awkward story about his wife having an affair with Kerry? Toni was never brought up by either of us. I knew better.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 16, 2019 3:23:06 GMT -5
Did Chris mentioned the awkward story about his wife having an affair with Kerry? Toni was never brought up by either of us. I knew better. All I have to say is that apparently Kerry’s funeral was a very uncomfortable moment for the Adams household.
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Post by abjordans on Jan 16, 2019 5:35:31 GMT -5
Do you have stories about Kevin being as bad as the others? Of a public disaster by him? Nah, Kevin was better than the others in, well, not getting arrested or dying. But yeah, he was out there racing down roads coked out and having his way with female fans and the like. The thing about him though that makes him a bit different from his brothers is that Kevin was, for want of a better term, Fritz's right-hand man inside the family. Or enforcer, whichever gets the point across. If Fritz demanded something got done or a lesson got learned and it wasn't something he could do on his own, Kevin was there. Can you expand on this about being the enforcer? Do you just mean he backed his dad’s word no matter what?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 9:14:01 GMT -5
So disappointed that the network edits out the Ralph Pulley/Chaplain Concert from the May 85 show I was looking forward to Jack & JP reactions.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 16, 2019 11:20:57 GMT -5
Of a public disaster by him? Nah, Kevin was better than the others in, well, not getting arrested or dying. But yeah, he was out there racing down roads coked out and having his way with female fans and the like. The thing about him though that makes him a bit different from his brothers is that Kevin was, for want of a better term, Fritz's right-hand man inside the family. Or enforcer, whichever gets the point across. If Fritz demanded something got done or a lesson got learned and it wasn't something he could do on his own, Kevin was there. Can you expand on this about being the enforcer? Do you just mean he backed his dad’s word no matter what? No, that's pretty much on the ball.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 16, 2019 13:11:52 GMT -5
Gino’s death will be hard to hear about. From all I’ve heard, he wasn’t a bad guy, just an addict.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Jan 17, 2019 9:38:51 GMT -5
On the topic of Kevin as enforcer...
Was Kevin involved in David's exile to Florida in 1982? I always thought it was odd that Fritz sent him there to "learn the business," and it's said they had a falling out and that's why he left. Was Kevin involved in sending him there?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 17, 2019 9:52:14 GMT -5
On the topic of Kevin as enforcer... Was Kevin involved in David's exile to Florida in 1982? I always thought it was odd that Fritz sent him there to "learn the business," and it's said they had a falling out and that's why he left. Was Kevin involved in sending him there? Kevin kayfabed on that. All 3 (David, Kerry and Kevin) went to Florida as heels to show the NWA David could work both ways as champ. Kevin only stayed a week or two before heading back.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 17, 2019 12:38:08 GMT -5
On the topic of Kevin as enforcer... Was Kevin involved in David's exile to Florida in 1982? I always thought it was odd that Fritz sent him there to "learn the business," and it's said they had a falling out and that's why he left. Was Kevin involved in sending him there? Kevin kayfabed on that. All 3 (David, Kerry and Kevin) went to Florida as heels to show the NWA David could work both ways as champ. Kevin only stayed a week or two before heading back. Jack mentioned Kevin going to work for Eddie Graham but he never went into great detail. I assumed that it wasn’t a great success.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 17, 2019 18:48:04 GMT -5
Gino’s death will be hard to hear about. From all I’ve heard, he wasn’t a bad guy, just an addict. Gino's an odd case, especially given who most people believe his real father is. Jack mentioned Kevin going to work for Eddie Graham but he never went into great detail. I assumed that it wasn’t a great success. To the best of my knowledge, and I could be wrong, Kevin never actually wrestled in Florida. He went with David and Kerry during their stint there, showed up as their corner-man for a match or two and then went back home without them. No clue why.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Jan 17, 2019 20:48:12 GMT -5
Gino’s death will be hard to hear about. From all I’ve heard, he wasn’t a bad guy, just an addict. Gino's an odd case, especially given who most people believe his real father is. Paul Boesch, right?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 17, 2019 20:57:07 GMT -5
Gino's an odd case, especially given who most people believe his real father is. Paul Boesch, right? Allegedly, yeah. It's never been 100% verified, and you'll find just as many guys from then that swear it's true as there are who dismiss it entirely. I tend to fall in the "it's true" category.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 17, 2019 21:11:53 GMT -5
Allegedly, yeah. It's never been 100% verified, and you'll find just as many guys from then that swear it's true as there are who dismiss it entirely. I tend to fall in the "it's true" category. Have you heard anything to what....I think it was Jake Roberts, said about Gino being apparently very involved in Dallas' gay scene, whatever that may have been back in that time? Not that it matters, just a line on his wikipedia that caught my eye and that I thought was odd.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 18, 2019 1:15:50 GMT -5
Allegedly, yeah. It's never been 100% verified, and you'll find just as many guys from then that swear it's true as there are who dismiss it entirely. I tend to fall in the "it's true" category. Prichard went into great detail about this and he raised a lot of interesting stuff about the rumor. 1. Early on, despite being an unproven rookie, Boesch took care of Gino and even paid him more than some regulars of the Houston scene. 2. Despite Gino always f***ing up and burning his bridge, Boesch always took him back. 3. When Gino returned to Houston after a long layoff, Boesch stopped everything he was doing, even directing the show, just so he could go and welcomed Gino back. That was weird because Boesch wasn’t that close with his employees or wrestlers. 4. When Gino died, his mom called Boesch on his private number. If that wasn’t enough, Boesch went with her to the coroner. If Boesch was only his boss then why accompany her to the morgue? Prichard said that this was weird because Boesch never interacted with her on public and they were never friends, but all of the sudden Boesch was the first person she called. I’m also inclined to believe that Gino was Boesch’s son.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 18, 2019 1:17:09 GMT -5
Allegedly, yeah. It's never been 100% verified, and you'll find just as many guys from then that swear it's true as there are who dismiss it entirely. I tend to fall in the "it's true" category. Have you heard anything to what....I think it was Jake Roberts, said about Gino being apparently very involved in Dallas' gay scene, whatever that may have been back in that time? Not that it matters, just a line on his wikipedia that caught my eye and that I thought was odd. Prichard said that the owner of a popular gay bar went to Gino’s funeral. Bruce thinks there’s a possibility that Gino was bisexual.
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Post by salz4life on Jan 18, 2019 13:09:58 GMT -5
R-A-S-S-L-I-N that's Rasslin!!! Holy f**k that was awful and them burying it is hilarious!
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 18, 2019 20:08:01 GMT -5
Did having the nwa champion come to the territories ended up hurting the promotions? I mean he came into town and the top guy either lost or got screwed at the end, wouldn’t it have been more effective for the territories to break away and proclaim their top guy the world champion?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 18, 2019 20:24:36 GMT -5
Did having the nwa champion come to the territories ended up hurting the promotions? I mean he came into town and the top guy either lost or got screwed at the end, wouldn’t it have been more effective for the territories to break away and proclaim their top guy the world champion? That's usually why they'd do draws, to try to elevate the top guy. It's a big part of why Flair was champion for so long, since he could put over people in a big way and had the cardio to do it. Some obviously would go solo, but it was a big risk, since the NWA would bring in stars, and brought some infrastructure that a lot of guys couldn't compete with. Vince Sr. ended up quietly rejoining the NWA after having had left, but he had two major benefits that let him do so without making his world champion look inferior: a major market, and a massive asset. If China's lending of pandas can be termed Panda Diplomacy, Vince Sr. had Andre diplomacy. If you wanted Andre the giant, and if you were booking a territory, you DID want him, you had to book him through Vince Sr, who was his talent agent in the States. The NWA couldn't turn that down, and people played ball with New York without their independent champion being an issue. Vincent Kennedy McMahon had no interest in remaining part of the NWA, and dissolved the partnership on taking control of the company, and subsequently wanted exclusive use of Andre. Andre wasn't thrilled about it, but obviously made plenty of money.
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