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Post by Duke Cameron on Jan 10, 2019 11:14:23 GMT -5
Dozier signs with the Nationals. 1 year, 9 million
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 11:57:11 GMT -5
I’d bet money that the Dodgers will end up trading for Russell Martin.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 10, 2019 13:14:38 GMT -5
They need to get out of Florida. As they and the Marlins have proven time and again over the better part of the last 30 years, pro baseball only works in Florida if the team is really good. The moment the team starts to falter, the fans flee. The thousands of empty seats inside Hard Rock Stadium then Marlins Park and Tropicana Field can attest to that. Rob Manfred earlier this year listed six cities as candidates for possible expansion, and I think each would be better options for the Rays than to find a new ballpark in Florida. They included Portland, Las Vegas, Charlotte, Nashville, Montreal, and Vancouver. Each would welcome a franchise with open arms and would be sure to sell better than the Rays whether at the Trop or a new park.
In the Marlins' case, it'd help if they didn't actively f*** over their team, their fanbase, and the City of Miami and its taxpayers so many times. Loria especially has done so much to damage the relationship between the organization and the people of Miami and South Florida that it will take a long-ass time for that to recover, if it ever does.
As for the Tampa Rays, it's just a bad location. Tropicana Field is one of the most depressing places to play professional sports in North America and the stadium itself is in a really poor location. I think it's less "Baseball in Florida doesn't work" and more "the effort to get baseball in Florida to work has been actively sabotaged by poor decisions and/or sadistic team ownership."
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jan 10, 2019 17:16:55 GMT -5
Yasmani Grandal to the Brewers 1 year $18.25 million He must regret leaving that deal from the Mets on the table HOLY SHIT MILWAUKEE, HOW DRUNK ARE YOU?!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 17:49:24 GMT -5
Mets have signed Jed Lowrie to a two year deal.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 10, 2019 17:59:07 GMT -5
Is he going to place first base until Alonzo is ready?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 18:15:17 GMT -5
Mets have signed Jed Lowrie to a two year deal. Didn't see this one coming. He was amazing last year but that's a crowded infield. I tell you what I do love...Jeff McNeil basically becoming Ben Zobrist 2.0. I think he could be AMAZING in that role.
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Post by sfvega on Jan 10, 2019 20:37:18 GMT -5
So uhhhh.....considering that not that long ago, contracts were getting out of hand again (Heyward getting 185 mil) and now they are painfully down. And this same league was rightly accused of collusion of the same kind in the 80's....a few times. At what point does this get serious as a league-wide conspiracy to bring contracts back to earth (and even regress from previous norms, especially as it pertains to term)?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 11, 2019 7:43:33 GMT -5
As for the Tampa Rays, it's just a bad location. Tropicana Field is one of the most depressing places to play professional sports in North America and the stadium itself is in a really poor location. I think it's less "Baseball in Florida doesn't work" and more "the effort to get baseball in Florida to work has been actively sabotaged by poor decisions and/or sadistic team ownership."
Yeah, I think Tampa has big local television ratings. But people just don't want to go to that concrete warehouse that's in a shit location.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 11, 2019 12:45:30 GMT -5
So uhhhh.....considering that not that long ago, contracts were getting out of hand again (Heyward getting 185 mil) and now they are painfully down. And this same league was rightly accused of collusion of the same kind in the 80's....a few times. At what point does this get serious as a league-wide conspiracy to bring contracts back to earth (and even regress from previous norms, especially as it pertains to term)? The latest CBA the usually very savvy MLBPA signed off on is responsible for a lot of this. I don't know what happened there, but Manfred really raked them over the coals with it. Also doesn't help players' wallets that baseball organizations as a whole are adopting a lot of younger, savvier GM's who live and die by analytics, which tell you that these massive contracts aren't worth it past a certain amount of years.
They do. IIRC, they have some of the better local TV ratings in the majors. Just that no one wants to go to Depression: The Sports Venue.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 11, 2019 13:47:17 GMT -5
DJ LeMahieu signs with the Yanks for 2 years and $24 million
I think that officially puts Machado to bed so it looks like he will end up in Philly or Chicago Whitesox
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 14:35:12 GMT -5
I’d bet money that the Dodgers will end up trading for Russell Martin. Damn why didn’t I actually bet money on this?
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Post by Cyno on Jan 11, 2019 14:46:12 GMT -5
DJ LeMahieu signs with the Yanks for 2 years and $24 million I think that officially puts Machado to bed so it looks like he will end up in Philly or Chicago Whitesox I don't think they're out on Machado just yet. Between Didi's injury and the defensive liabilities of the rest of the infield last year, they could be using LeMahieu as a super-utility-type player who can play the rest of the infield positions, especially 2B if Torres has to play shortstop if Tulo gets hurt. As LeMahieu is a stud of a defensive infielder while Andujar, Bird, and Voit... aren't, he can also fill in at their positions if the Yanks need to send any of them to the minors to work on defense.
If it was a longer deal than 2 years, I'd think that'd rule out Machado. But never count out the Yankees on anyone until they actually sign a contract with a team.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 11, 2019 15:00:12 GMT -5
DJ LeMahieu signs with the Yanks for 2 years and $24 million I think that officially puts Machado to bed so it looks like he will end up in Philly or Chicago Whitesox I don't think they're out on Machado just yet. Between Didi's injury and the defensive liabilities of the rest of the infield last year, they could be using LeMahieu as a super-utility-type player who can play the rest of the infield positions, especially 2B if Torres has to play shortstop if Tulo gets hurt. As LeMahieu is a stud of a defensive infielder while Andujar, Bird, and Voit... aren't, he can also fill in at their positions if the Yanks need to send any of them to the minors to work on defense.
If it was a longer deal than 2 years, I'd think that'd rule out Machado. But never count out the Yankees on anyone until they actually sign a contract with a team.
True. DJ doesn't have a set position if we assume Tulo remains healthy(I don't) so he's your super utility guy who can play all over the diamond and give guys breaks as needed
In saying that though, the infield is def crowded. Assuming they do get Machado I think that most certainly gets Bird out of there and Andujar. Through it all the Yanks still have a hole at 1B unless you put Andujar there (I think they should but it's already right heavy lineup)
I think Cashman sees Machado as a luxury and not a need so he's not nearing nowhere near the $300 million Machado wanted and is just playing the waiting game. 6 years and $200 million is probably the range they are comfortable with knowing they still have to pay Severino and Judge soon plus you got Didi and Betances as free agents coming next year
Right now Yanks have needs at 1B and maybe a 5th starter and another reliever for insurance
I do wonder what they are going to do with Ellsbury because the OF is crowded as well with Judge, Stanton, Hicks, Gardner and Frazier. Stanton needs to be in the OF almost everyday to keep that DH spot open and Gardner seems like he will just be an occasional spot starter and speed replacement
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Post by S-Chrome on Jan 11, 2019 15:03:57 GMT -5
DJ LeMahieu signs with the Yanks for 2 years and $24 million I think that officially puts Machado to bed so it looks like he will end up in Philly or Chicago Whitesox I don't think they're out on Machado just yet. Between Didi's injury and the defensive liabilities of the rest of the infield last year, they could be using LeMahieu as a super-utility-type player who can play the rest of the infield positions, especially 2B if Torres has to play shortstop if Tulo gets hurt. As LeMahieu is a stud of a defensive infielder while Andujar, Bird, and Voit... aren't, he can also fill in at their positions if the Yanks need to send any of them to the minors to work on defense.
If it was a longer deal than 2 years, I'd think that'd rule out Machado. But never count out the Yankees on anyone until they actually sign a contract with a team.
I’m counting them out. As I previously said, this was supposed to be a slam dunk as there was mutual interest dating back midsession of last year, but yet an offer wasn’t made, then Cashman is laying out 12M/season for a guy who hits .229 outside of Colts field? Hechevarria could’ve been bad for plenty less if it was defense they were looking for, and Lowrie (Who the Mets smartly jumped on) could’ve offered switch-hitter flexibility for less money. Pretty lousy move by Cashman. They watch the Red Sox win the Series, stomp them out in the process and this is the best they come up with? If they’re so worried about fiscal responsibility while being one of the most profitable/money-making sports franchises in the world, then Hal should sell the team.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 11, 2019 15:20:01 GMT -5
I don't think they're out on Machado just yet. Between Didi's injury and the defensive liabilities of the rest of the infield last year, they could be using LeMahieu as a super-utility-type player who can play the rest of the infield positions, especially 2B if Torres has to play shortstop if Tulo gets hurt. As LeMahieu is a stud of a defensive infielder while Andujar, Bird, and Voit... aren't, he can also fill in at their positions if the Yanks need to send any of them to the minors to work on defense.
If it was a longer deal than 2 years, I'd think that'd rule out Machado. But never count out the Yankees on anyone until they actually sign a contract with a team.
I’m counting them out. As I previously said, this was supposed to be a slam dunk as there was mutual interest dating back midsession of last year, but yet an offer wasn’t made, then Cashman is laying out 12M/season for a guy who hits .229 outside of Colts field? Hechevarria could’ve been bad for plenty less if it was defense they were looking for, and Lowrie (Who the Mets smartly jumped on) could’ve offered switch-hitter flexibility for less money. Pretty lousy move by Cashman. They watch the Red Sox win the Series, stomp them out in the process and this is the best they come up with? If they’re so worried about fiscal responsibility while being one of the most profitable/money-making sports franchises in the world, then Hal should sell the team. I disagree. Yankee Stadium is essentially going to project the same as Coors Field especially in the Summer. I don't see this as a Sonny Gray situation where we are taking a pitcher from a big park to a smaller one, Yankee stadium is a band box and he will do fine there and he's not getting bats everyday so the away split isn't frightening
This is a good move because the Yanks don't have a super utility guy who could play all over while still providing an adequate bat. I don't see Lowrie providing the same value DJ would and Lowrie is in his mid 30s as well so expecting him to stay loose on the bench is going to be a problem
Also spending money carelessly is a thing of the past. I don't see how you can bring him financial responsibility when you got to project 3 and 4 years ahead. They restarted their tax clock for a reason and you have no reason to bet against yourself to give Manny $300 million when it seems no one else is doing so. Yanks have to pay Sevy, Judge, and Sanchez within the next few years. They have no problem paying money but it would be foolish to overspend before your cost control players have to get paid. If they had a problem taking on money they wouldn't have taken Judge and damn near 80% of his contract with 10 years left
It's easy to say spend the money when you are not considering the tax breakdowns and the consequences that will come if they break that threshold over a certain amount of years. If the market said to pay Manny $300 million I'm sure they would consider that but it doesn't seem that way and they've learned from the past not to just needlessly overspend and give someone an extra $50-60 million just so you can have them
You still have Andujar on the team plus a player I think they would spend $300 million on next year in Nolan Arenado if he hits free agency
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 11, 2019 16:11:47 GMT -5
I’d bet money that the Dodgers will end up trading for Russell Martin. A day later and you are correct What’s the lotto numbers ?
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Post by domrep on Jan 11, 2019 16:39:30 GMT -5
It's crazy that one of Machado/Harper might end up in Philly or on the White Sox. I'm sure neither player imagined that's how things would end up.
Also, regarding the free agency market being cold. You have to thank the GMs and owners who were giving out 10-12 year contracts like candy. Albert Pujols still has another 3 years left on that contract. It's very rare for those contracts to work out.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jan 11, 2019 17:04:07 GMT -5
How about you swoop in and steal Bryce Harper, SF?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 17:23:05 GMT -5
It's crazy that one of Machado/Harper might end up in Philly or on the White Sox. I'm sure neither player imagined that's how things would end up. Also, regarding the free agency market being cold. You have to thank the GMs and owners who were giving out 10-12 year contracts like candy. Albert Pujols still has another 3 years left on that contract. It's very rare for those contracts to work out. I wonder if players will start accepting lower years for more AAV. That might be how they maximize their money from now on. Like if Machado accepts a 4 year, $160M and goes back on the market at age 30, you’d think a team with money might bite on that rather than 10/300. It’s more upfront money for the player but less long term security. You’re exactly right teams are scared of term, not dollars. I guarantee players would be making way more per year if they accepted fewer years but everyone wants Pujols years. Teams are smarter than that now.
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