Why doesn’t WWE view Kurt on the same level as other legends

[psychokiller]

It’s clear to me they don’t view in as high regard as many of the other legends. They had him wrestle his first singles match in years without barely any big deal about it. Than his first singles match on Raw in years last night like it was just an ordinary thing. If it was Brock for instance they would have hyped it up big. It’s just annoying since Kurt was one of the top guys of the Attitude Era & now they promote him like just some ordinary guy on the roster.

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I think the price tag on Brock is the only reason they are any bit careful with how they use him. Even John Cena gets booked as if he's just a guy.

[psychokiller]

Nov 6, 2018 14:07:45 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

I think the price tag on Brock is the only reason they are any bit careful with how they use him. Even John Cena gets booked as if he's just a guy.

It’s ridiculous. Yet the almighty HHH still gets booked like he’s a God when he’s never been on the level of Cena or ever was as good as Angle. Just WWE trying to write their own narrative on who the biggest stars were. It’s just annoying.

[government mule]

I think Angle sort of wants it like that - he shouldn't really be anywhere near a ring given the state of his body but he went for years after he should for TNA and now here we are, especially with Bryan returning as well, I think he just wants to be one of the guys again, he's not ready to be pigeonholed into that Legend bracket and probably never will. It will take quite a serious intervention to stop him wrestling completely.

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I would be all for another Kurt title reign. But I like how they’re using him... let’s face it, he’s about 50 so he shouldn’t be on the level of the younger guys.

I wish they took this advice with the likes of Taker for example. There’s no way Taker should be beating guys half his age like Wyatt.

[Zombie Mod is not a ghoul.]

because they're worried he'll moonsault from it.

[psychokiller]

Nov 6, 2018 14:13:27 GMT -5 @negan said:

I would be all for another Kurt title reign. But I like how they’re using him... let’s face it, he’s about 50 so he shouldn’t be on the level of the younger guys.

I wish they took this advice with the likes of Taker for example. There’s no way Taker should be beating guys half his age like Wyatt.

I know Kurt is 50 & can’t really go anymore but neither can the 4 guys at Crown Jewel. Yet 3 out of 4 of those guys are still booked like huge deal attractions while they view Kurt as just some non special guy.

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Really I feel like this is exactly how Angle should be used.

[schma]

I think the big thing is he spent so much time in TNA during a period where WWE refused to acknowledge TNA. They probably look at it like 'oh his time in WWE was short and he had a good run but he was gone for something like 15 years'. It could also be sour grapes, it could just be that Angle wants it to be like this. Consider though, all four of those guys in the crown jewel match had incredibly long tenures in WWE. They didn't go elsewhere once they were here even if they took periods off.

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Nov 6, 2018 14:12:09 GMT -5 psychokiller said:

Nov 6, 2018 14:07:45 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

I think the price tag on Brock is the only reason they are any bit careful with how they use him. Even John Cena gets booked as if he's just a guy.

It’s ridiculous. Yet the almighty HHH still gets booked like he’s a God when he’s never been on the level of Cena or ever was as good as Angle. Just WWE trying to write their own narrative on who the biggest stars were. It’s just annoying.

I think it's also that Triple H has been more dependable up until this pec injury, he's an in-house star that they don't have to worry about going anywhere whose judgment Vince trusts, while Brock has a clear star presence and in theory still has a lot to offer.

Guys like Kurt, Undertaker and Cena have a foot out the door, you can't treat them like they're as good as they used to be because it's too evident that they're not and it would probably be counter-productive anyways. I think there's some happy medium that could be found for guys like Brock/HHH and guys like Kurt, but I can understand why they book them the way they do on paper. Triple H still does the right thing for the most part when it comes to working with younger guys (put over Roman, put over the Shield, put over Rollins), Kurt is a team player and is going to be putting over tons of guys like Hulk Hogan did in his twilight years, I think the idea of what they do is proper, it's just the execution that can use work sometimes.

I think they're doing okay with Kurt so far though, it's pretty realistic for his current circumstances, we'll see how they do over time though, you can't have him lose and lose and lose, but he doesn't need to be a world beater either.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Crazy conspiracy theory, but apparently ticket sales were soft for this tour and they had to curtain off sections of the crowd for RAW. I think showing Manchester they'll get some special stuff - e.g. Angle - might make more folks think about showing up next time.

[Mid-Carder]

Possibly due to the comparatively short run of his time on top compared to Triple H, Rock, Undertaker etc.

Also, perhaps he's not as much of an egotist and doesn't need to be shoehorned into everything.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Nov 6, 2018 14:34:10 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Crazy conspiracy theory, but apparently ticket sales were soft for this tour and they had to curtain off sections of the crowd for RAW. I think showing Manchester they'll get some special stuff - e.g. Angle - might make more folks think about showing up next time.

There has been a noticeable increase in shit happening at the UK shows.

I've been to a few WWE shows in London and Manchester, and they were glorified house shows claiming to be episodes of Raw. Nothing of note happened. Even the 'pay-per-views' we used to get were non-shows, I think it was only ever the European and Hardcore titles that changed hands on them?

Then the British indie scene exploded. There was somewhere else to go and see live wrestling.

And suddenly there is a title change on the show whenever they're in the UK these days.

[cabbageboy]

I think the TNA aspect is the big reason here. Angle was devalued for so long with the dubious booking he had in TNA (even as a top guy) that I'm not entirely sure why WWE brought him back. He's a lousy onscreen authority figure and he can't really work anymore, so what exactly does he bring to the table? Keep in mind that his most notable WWE stuff in the past was him acting like a goof, so it's not like he was treated with any respect then either.

[eJm]

Nov 6, 2018 16:45:08 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

Nov 6, 2018 14:34:10 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Crazy conspiracy theory, but apparently ticket sales were soft for this tour and they had to curtain off sections of the crowd for RAW. I think showing Manchester they'll get some special stuff - e.g. Angle - might make more folks think about showing up next time.

There has been a noticeable increase in shit happening at the UK shows.

I've been to a few WWE shows in London and Manchester, and they were glorified house shows claiming to be episodes of Raw. Nothing of note happened. Even the 'pay-per-views' we used to get were non-shows, I think it was only ever the European and Hardcore titles that changed hands on them?

Then the British indie scene exploded. There was somewhere else to go and see live wrestling.

And suddenly there is a title change on the show whenever they're in the UK these days.

On the flip side, though, outside of a title change, they haven’t really changed much of the content in the shows itself, it’s just they have something interesting happen.

And hell, from how the crowd was reacting or even from the attendance, that AJ title win didn’t convince people to come back to the next show.

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The circumstances of his departure and subsequent highlighting of his flaws (personal and wrestling) in TNA at a guess.

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Angle right now is booked how a 40+ year old legend should be booked. Trips, Taker, all those other old dudes are booked way too strong.

[fw91]

I don't see any issues.

[Krazee]

he went to TNA and still had a successful career, and Vince is one petty motherf***er

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Nov 6, 2018 19:10:15 GMT -5 @kn said:

Angle right now is booked how a 40+ year old legend should be booked. Trips, Taker, all those other old dudes are booked way too strong.

Yea, pretty much this

You are a legend but that doesn't mean you're not older and a little slower so it makes sense you will lose to guys in the prime of their careers

More guys should be booked like that if they are going to come back. Taker needs to take an L to someone currently on the active roster