markymark
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Post by markymark on Nov 23, 2018 11:53:42 GMT -5
Now it seems that it was real.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 14:41:03 GMT -5
I read PWinsider and don't recall ever seeing them claiming ADR was on the verge of re-signing, or even that it was even under consideration, I couldn't find any article saying so by googling them either, all that came up was a denial, and at this point, I suspect the same may be the same with the observer too. There's a cottage industry of wrestling news sites who pull stuff from the air and credit more reputable sources, and people generally accept it as true when it comes to Impact, because people so desperately want LOLTNA fodder. www.sescoops.com/impact-looking-to-bring-alberto-back-ellsworth-turns-down-impact-deal-more/The El Patron rumours seem to have originated at SEScoops, a site which seems to have a reputation for that sort of thing, just making things up and mixing it in with results, actual news lifted from elsewhere and educated guesses like talk of impact doing more of an angle they were already invested in like the undead bride nonsense. Oh look, the Austin Aries loose cannon story people think is a thing originated there too... A link to it was posted here back in the first Aries departure thread and accepted like it came from a major news site. www.sescoops.com/exclusive-details-on-austin-aries-status-with-impact-loose-cannon-angle/I don't dump on wrestling journalists, guys like Meltzer, Alverez, the folks at PWinsider have actual sources and tend to be right enough of the time to get the benefit of the doubt, but SEScoops? Come on. I’ve never been on SEscoops I only occasionally check the observer site and sometimes PWinsider and I never said ADR was re-signing all I said was that I read on PWinsider in a story written by Mike Johnson that Don Callis wants to bring ADR back because he hasn’t gotten in trouble lately that is all and The observer site brought it up saying they’ve heard the same thing and then I hadn’t heard anything else but I don’t find that odd because things like that take time and that was only a month ago he’d have to get everyone else on board.I don’t know if it’s improved but I used to subscribe to PWinsider and when they’d get stuff wrong they’d either delete or edit the post and act like it never happened I saw it happen many times.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 24, 2018 17:27:42 GMT -5
The real deal with Austin Aries is that he is a professional wrestler in his early 40s, and may or may not be married (credit: Rajah.com) he is from Milwaukee, Wisconsin but currently resides in Los Angeles.
He has worked in just about every major promotion in the world... and has a history of being difficult to work with and storming out when things don't go exactly his way.
Thanks for writing.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 24, 2018 18:28:15 GMT -5
His beard is weird.
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Post by Kyn on Nov 25, 2018 10:08:42 GMT -5
I used to work with someone who was great at his job, but incredibly difficult to work with. One day the GM of the company got frustrated and told him "Dave, you are the cause of, and the solution to, all your worst problems".
Aries is that guy, just in wrestling rather than sales.
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Post by WWEedy on Nov 25, 2018 10:30:35 GMT -5
So now that this has been concluded as a shoot are any one of the "THIS WAS A WORKED SHOOT, LOLTNA again. f*** this company!" crowd going to apologize for stinking up the board with their negative assumptions?
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 25, 2018 11:07:10 GMT -5
So now that this has been concluded as a shoot are any one of the "THIS WAS A WORKED SHOOT, LOLTNA again. f*** this company!" crowd going to apologize for stinking up the board with their negative assumptions? Thing is, that assuming this was a work also assumed that Aries wasn't unprofessional enough to do what he did at the end of the biggest PPV of the year and overshadow what was a really good match.
It also took into account the past history of TNA/Impact, and the tendancy of Impact to take a gun and fill their own feet full of lead during that time of year.
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Post by WWEedy on Nov 25, 2018 11:28:31 GMT -5
So now that this has been concluded as a shoot are any one of the "THIS WAS A WORKED SHOOT, LOLTNA again. f*** this company!" crowd going to apologize for stinking up the board with their negative assumptions? Thing is, that assuming this was a work also assumed that Aries wasn't unprofessional enough to do what he did at the end of the biggest PPV of the year and overshadow what was a really good match.
It also took into account the past history of TNA/Impact, and the tendancy of Impact to take a gun and fill their own feet full of lead during that time of year.
Aries is Aries. Of course he's unprofessional enough to do that. The contrary should never be assumed. IMPACT is barely TNA now, like for better or worse its a shadow of it's past. Again assuming it's going to pull a "TNA" isn't smart because they're not frequently pulling a TNA these days. To the point people are complaining they're disappointed they're not shit anymore so they don't have something to laugh at. This section is constantly dragged down by complaining and honestly it's going to be dead on it's arse if nothings done. Even mods here join in on the perpetuating misery and as a fan it's such a turnoff and I hate to imagine how intimidated potential fans and interested parties must be coming in here and the amount of unnecessary heat they're presented with. Honestly the fact that people can come into threads deliberately geared towards talking about IMPACT positively and throw out backhanded compliments in a flame baiting way and nothing gets said or done is ridiculous. Anyway most of this isn't directed at you but still, someone needs to say something when whole threads can be stunk up on the premise of some apparently obvious worked-shoot that wasn't even real. But hey smart fans are so smart that they find work arounds and yeah buts to absolve anything wrong ever said.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 25, 2018 11:45:35 GMT -5
So now that this has been concluded as a shoot are any one of the "THIS WAS A WORKED SHOOT, LOLTNA again. f*** this company!" crowd going to apologize for stinking up the board with their negative assumptions? I apologize for stinking up your happy place. There you can stop screaming.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 25, 2018 11:50:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 11:57:45 GMT -5
So now that this has been concluded as a shoot are any one of the "THIS WAS A WORKED SHOOT, LOLTNA again. f*** this company!" crowd going to apologize for stinking up the board with their negative assumptions? I mean, hell no, because TNA was still stupid enough to trust this guy who's constantly causing drama and quick to flee enough to carry the company all year and put him in the main event of their WrestleMania while he had a foot out the door. Both scenarios here made them look stupid, the only question was which flavor of it.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 25, 2018 12:16:06 GMT -5
Thing is, that assuming this was a work also assumed that Aries wasn't unprofessional enough to do what he did at the end of the biggest PPV of the year and overshadow what was a really good match.
It also took into account the past history of TNA/Impact, and the tendancy of Impact to take a gun and fill their own feet full of lead during that time of year.
Aries is Aries. Of course he's unprofessional enough to do that. The contrary should never be assumed. IMPACT is barely TNA now, like for better or worse its a shadow of it's past. Again assuming it's going to pull a "TNA" isn't smart because they're not frequently pulling a TNA these days. To the point people are complaining they're disappointed they're not shit anymore so they don't have something to laugh at. This section is constantly dragged down by complaining and honestly it's going to be dead on it's arse if nothings done. Even mods here join in on the perpetuating misery and as a fan it's such a turnoff and I hate to imagine how intimidated potential fans and interested parties must be coming in here and the amount of unnecessary heat they're presented with. Honestly the fact that people can come into threads deliberately geared towards talking about IMPACT positively and throw out backhanded compliments in a flame baiting way and nothing gets said or done is ridiculous. Anyway most of this isn't directed at you but still, someone needs to say something when whole threads can be stunk up on the premise of some apparently obvious worked-shoot that wasn't even real. But hey smart fans are so smart that they find work arounds and yeah buts to absolve anything wrong ever said. The section is dying on it's arse because at the moment, the product is boring. There are hardly any interesting angles or likable characters, with the exception of Fallah Bahh and there were plently of people who voted BAHH! in the thread asking if he should get a title reign. The build towards the main event of the biggest show of the year was almost non existent except for a twitter exchange that got real nasty, and so much of the talent is being misused. That is why the TNA/Impact section is much less active than it was.
They are also doing LU style angles when the company has many of the same talent that you can see in the temple. When you do those sorts of angles while you have the same talent, of course you are going to get accusations of copying. Why bother with Impact when another company is doing it so much better than them?
You also have a product in which the writers obviously have never heard the words of Jake Roberts when it comes to including murder and attempted murder in the product, ie don't. And in doing that, the current regime is still doing LOLTNA. Hell, the most notable angle this year, Callihan/Edwards, started with a dude almost losing an eye by getting hit in the face with a real baseball bat and during the feud his character become a psychopath that threatened to put the wives of his opponents in hospital and attempted murder in a forest full of floodlights, and when Tommy Dreamer stopped him, he called out Dreamer for being selfish for not letting him kill Sami Callihan. Pure LOLTNA.
The current product does have some serious problems, it has no likable characters in it and it's copying a niche product, often badly. Not the people reacting to it.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 25, 2018 15:51:04 GMT -5
Ok ok I need someone to explain this to me.
The twitter exchange where Johnny Impact made fun of Aries’ height that caused Aries to fat shame Taya, was according to Dave Meltzer a work.
Austin Aries has defended the company when people criticize it.
Based on those two things, there’s no evidence or reason for Aries to be unhappy at either Johnny Impact or Don Callis or TNA.
Despite all of this, he tried to ruin Bound For Glory by not selling the finish and then he started cursing out Don Callis. As of today all of that is being reported as a shoot.
Then to make matters more confusing, Aries visited the Vegas tapings and he was actually welcomed with open arms backstage, this despite him trying to ruin their biggest show of the year and cursing out the head booker.
Can someone explain to me what is going on? Can someone explain to me why the guy who spit on the company is then welcomed backstage as if nothing bad happened?
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Post by markymark on Nov 26, 2018 13:39:38 GMT -5
They tried to invite Low Ki(who is also a headache like Aries) to work the BFG PPV...
At this point people like no idea what is going on, first they said it was a work and later they said Aries leaving the company and probably not coming back was 100% real.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 26, 2018 13:55:34 GMT -5
They tried to invite Low Ki(who is also a headache like Aries) to work the BFG PPV... At this point people like no idea what is going on, first they said it was a work and later they said Aries leaving the company and probably not coming back was 100% real. So Aries used a wrestling storyline to get out from working there?
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Post by markymark on Nov 26, 2018 14:36:54 GMT -5
Or something happened that did not pleased Aries(dropping the title at BFG), the stuff on twitter was a work until Aries took it too far and was forced to delete the tweets.
Lets wait until Homecoming, if he doesnt return there then we can assume he is done with Impact. MLW was hyping a big announcement and I will laugh if its Aries going there.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 26, 2018 14:49:14 GMT -5
Or something happened that did not pleased Aries(dropping the title at BFG), the stuff on twitter was a work until Aries took it too far and was forced to delete the tweets. Lets wait until Homecoming, if he doesnt return there then we can assume he is done with Impact. MLW was hyping a big announcement and I will laugh if its Aries going there. Oh my god, he’s trying to Brian Pillman’d tna.
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Post by wankah on Nov 26, 2018 16:13:01 GMT -5
Think there was reports of them negotiating a new contract for Aries during the BFG weekend as his last one was coming up, so if that was the case, it might've been enough to trigger Aries if he wasn't made feel important enough during those negotiations.
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Post by WWEedy on Nov 27, 2018 18:28:37 GMT -5
So now that this has been concluded as a shoot are any one of the "THIS WAS A WORKED SHOOT, LOLTNA again. f*** this company!" crowd going to apologize for stinking up the board with their negative assumptions? I apologize for stinking up your happy place. There you can stop screaming. Cheers pal. All I was asking.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 27, 2018 19:38:24 GMT -5
Think there was reports of them negotiating a new contract for Aries during the BFG weekend as his last one was coming up, so if that was the case, it might've been enough to trigger Aries if he wasn't made feel important enough during those negotiations. Ok let’s say that it pissed off Aries that he got lowballed during negotiations or that something upsetted him enough to ruin the main event, why did he went to the Vegas tapings and why he was even allowed to. Any other company would’ve blackballed him.
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