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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on May 21, 2019 12:42:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 12:48:44 GMT -5
So came across a little interesting theory about where Drogon took Danys body to Volantis (it was said Drogon was spotted headed east) to be ressurected by Kinvara.
And something else that was pointed out in her vision with her walking into the hut to see Khal and her sons confirming her death but before it ends she leaves the hut signifying her ressurection.
Again theories but not far fetched IMO.
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 13:11:40 GMT -5
Can we talk about Sansa's leaving the six kingdom is a total dick move? All the Houses ,representing the seven kingdoms voted,Bran STARK won the vote. The Starks are leaders of the North.And right after a Stark is king another Stark goes "Now that a stark is king,we are leaving the 7 Kingdoms lolsuckit". So basically they voted for a house that is NOT part of the Kingdoms to lead the Kingdoms Considering that for example England was ruled for most of its history by a bunch of Frenchmen and Germans, there's a lot of real world precedents for that. Thats not really the same. I dont think any house would allow that to happen in that scenario.It opens so many doors where basically the North rules then and yet they cant do anything about it becaus they are not applicable to their laws. Not saying it is not something that can't happen,just in the specific scenario it doesnt make sense people would just be okay with.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on May 21, 2019 13:16:45 GMT -5
A Stark ruling Westeros brings to mind how James VI of Scotland became King of England.
In fact, with all the English history parallels it would't surprise me if Westeros got a parliament of some kind in the near future.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on May 21, 2019 13:26:57 GMT -5
Considering that for example England was ruled for most of its history by a bunch of Frenchmen and Germans, there's a lot of real world precedents for that. Thats not really the same. I dont think any house would allow that to happen in that scenario.It opens so many doors where basically the North rules then and yet they cant do anything about it becaus they are not applicable to their laws. Not saying it is not something that can't happen,just in the specific scenario it doesnt make sense people would just be okay with. But it was exactly like that. And people did go along with it. And it wasn't just England. Spain was ruled by a branch of the Austrian Hapsburgs, for instance.
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 13:30:57 GMT -5
Thats not really the same. I dont think any house would allow that to happen in that scenario.It opens so many doors where basically the North rules then and yet they cant do anything about it becaus they are not applicable to their laws. Not saying it is not something that can't happen,just in the specific scenario it doesnt make sense people would just be okay with. But it was exactly like that. And people did go along with it. And it wasn't just England. Spain was ruled by a branch of the Austrian Hapsburgs, for instance. Hapsburg was basically a house that spawned nations. If there was a "Stark Branch"not based on the north,it would make sense,but they dont make clear if thats the case. Edit: I guess it doesnt matter if there was a Stark Branch or not,since Bran cant really have sons? But then I dont expect that the Starks will have a vote again.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 13:35:23 GMT -5
Remember how people were happy anxious for this last season, and even some folks kinda gleefully put the screws to GRRM for not having finished the books yet?
That take aged well.
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 13:36:31 GMT -5
Remember how people were happy anxious for this last season, and even some folks kinda gleefully put the screws to GRRM for not having finished the books yet? That take aged well. at least I think the final scene itself it fine,with the houses voting for a king and the new council. Just make your own story to feel the season 6-8 gap to fit the end
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Post by Cyno on May 21, 2019 13:50:05 GMT -5
Thats not really the same. I dont think any house would allow that to happen in that scenario.It opens so many doors where basically the North rules then and yet they cant do anything about it becaus they are not applicable to their laws. Not saying it is not something that can't happen,just in the specific scenario it doesnt make sense people would just be okay with. But it was exactly like that. And people did go along with it. And it wasn't just England. Spain was ruled by a branch of the Austrian Hapsburgs, for instance. A lot of the great European noble families were pretty incestuous with each other all things considered (and in the Habsburgs' case, incestuous within the family). I don't think it ever got quite that bad with Westeros outside of the Targaryens, especially with the mix of genetic stock between the First Men and the Andals along with anyone with Valyrian heritage from the Free Cities.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 21, 2019 14:17:38 GMT -5
As far as the politics, I think it should have ended with the Seven Kingdoms dissolved (as symbolized by the Iron Throne being melted), perhaps with some sort of standing counsel of kings. A Westerosi EU or UN. It was only Aegon's fire and blood that brought them together as one kingdom anyway, and with everything that has happened it just doesn't seem likely that Westeros would remain a united Seven Six Kingdoms Can we talk about Sansa's leaving the six kingdom is a total dick move? All the Houses ,representing the seven kingdoms voted,Bran STARK won the vote. The Starks are leaders of the North.And right after a Stark is king another Stark goes "Now that a stark is king,we are leaving the 7 Kingdoms lolsuckit". So basically they voted for a house that is NOT part of the Kingdoms to lead the Kingdoms A Stark won't be on the throne forever and he can't have kids. As far as Sansa is concerned, Bran is now "not a Stark" in the loosest sense. No matter the family tie, if he told her to do something, she would have had to do it as him being the King now means more than being a Stark per se Once again this is something for later generations. Her kids and their kids will be separate from every one else. She didn't vote for Bran, she asked him to let them be free and he did Of course, the selfish side is Sansa has desired that power and she finally got it
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 21, 2019 14:21:27 GMT -5
So came across a little interesting theory about where Drogon took Danys body to Volantis (it was said Drogon was spotted headed east) to be ressurected by Kinvara. And something else that was pointed out in her vision with her walking into the hut to see Khal and her sons confirming her death but before it ends she leaves the hut signifying her ressurection. Again theories but not far fetched IMO. I mean I kind of assumed since Drogon carried off her body, the idea was she could be brought back
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 21, 2019 14:23:06 GMT -5
So came across a little interesting theory about where Drogon took Danys body to Volantis (it was said Drogon was spotted headed east) to be ressurected by Kinvara. And something else that was pointed out in her vision with her walking into the hut to see Khal and her sons confirming her death but before it ends she leaves the hut signifying her ressurection. Again theories but not far fetched IMO. I mean I kind of assumed since Drogon carried off her body, the idea was she could be brought back He just needed a snack for his flight.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 21, 2019 14:28:36 GMT -5
In my head canon, Drogon flew to Skyrim.
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Post by Prince Petty on May 21, 2019 14:38:38 GMT -5
I just realized that only Drogon saw Jon kill Dany, and he flew away with her anyway. Jon should have just said she went to the store and would be back any minute. After a few months, he should say, 'man, that line at Walmart is something else, I tell you...' You forget that when Jon came back to life his brain stayed dead. Actually I would have loved some clarification on the rules of his resurrection. We know he can die from injury, because Dondarrion did. Does he age though? We know he must have a functioning circulatory system because of how he boinked his aunt. We should also perhaps wonder why he came back from the dead. He was pretty redundant as a character in the end, and the whole prophecy side of the story fell apart completely in the rush to the finish.
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Post by Dub H on May 21, 2019 14:43:59 GMT -5
You forget that when Jon came back to life his brain stayed dead. Actually I would have loved some clarification on the rules of his resurrection. We know he can die from injury, because Dondarrion did. Does he age though? We know he must have a functioning circulatory system because of how he boinked his aunt. We should also perhaps wonder why he came back from the dead. He was pretty redundant as a character in the end, and the whole prophecy side of the story fell apart completely in the rush to the finish. I think Jon was more of a politic figure than anything this season and the last. He didnt do jack,but he was an important symbol for the North and Wildlings to follow. Still, he was more of a plot device.
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Post by Cyno on May 21, 2019 14:47:07 GMT -5
Daenerys wakes up, seemingly brought back to life. But she isn't in Westeros, Essos, Valyria, Asshai-by-the-Shadow, or any other known part of the world. Strangely, she's in the back of a cart traveling through some snowy forest. She looks down and sees her hands bound in front of her. She looks at the people in the cart with her and the person sitting across from her says "Hey you. You're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right?"
Todd Howard you've done it again.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 21, 2019 14:56:08 GMT -5
Drogon took her corpse away because he thought that if these puny humans love incest, they might be into necrophilia too.
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Post by Prince Petty on May 21, 2019 15:33:20 GMT -5
Looks like Bobby B came through with the accurate summing up of this season:
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Post by Gecko on May 21, 2019 15:39:09 GMT -5
And we still didn't hear the rest of the honeycomb/jackass/brothel joke!
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 21, 2019 15:53:36 GMT -5
Maisie Williams: “I just wanted to be on set with Lena again, she’s good fun,” Williams added. “And I wanted Arya to kill Cersei even if it means [Arya] dies too. Even up to the point when Cersei’s with Jaime I thought [while reading the script], ‘He’s going to whip off his face [and reveal its Arya]’ and they’re both going to die. I thought that’s what Arya’s drive has been.”
That would've been cool.
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