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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 19, 2018 19:33:25 GMT -5
I was thinking about this.
Because of what happened with the star of the show. What is the legacy of it? I know it's been pulled off the air. So it will never be broadcast again. So the work of the 8 other stars and the show go down the drain too.
Or does it? Can their legacies still shine outside of the main star and his issues?
How are the works of Rudy, Denise, Theo, etc... looked upon these days?
Is the legacy basically erased due to one man's actions?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 19, 2018 19:36:59 GMT -5
Yup. Pretty much.
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 19, 2018 19:39:36 GMT -5
To be fair, the only Cosby Show star who went on to anything major was Raven Symone, unless you want to count Adam Sandler as a cast member.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 19, 2018 19:44:16 GMT -5
Honestly, almost all of them peaked with that show careerwise anyways. Having said that, I would think that Malcolm-Jamal Warner, Lisa Bonet, Erika Alexander, and Raven-Symoné all could, and sometimes do, still find work in Hollywood.
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 19, 2018 20:03:13 GMT -5
It basically is like talking about Chris Benoit's greatest/most entertaining matches today (very different crimes, not with standing). Are those matches still good and entertaining, technically? Yes. Are the jokes from The Cosby Show still funny, technically? Yes. Are both those things harder to watch for most, if not all, fans? Yes.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 19, 2018 20:06:40 GMT -5
Honestly, almost all of them peaked with that show careerwise anyways. Having said that, I would think that Malcolm-Jamal Warner, Lisa Bonet, Erika Alexander, and Raven-Symoné all could, and sometimes do, still find work in Hollywood. Lisa Bonet is still somewhat in the news given her husband, Jason Mamoa, and daughter, Zoe Kravitz.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2018 20:11:40 GMT -5
Phylicia Rashad's got the Creed movies, so she's doing well for herself.
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Post by Paul on Dec 19, 2018 20:22:32 GMT -5
I've got four words for you:
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Post by the4whoare1 on Dec 19, 2018 20:25:46 GMT -5
it is not completely off the air. I have seen it listed on my tvs guide. I believe the channel is called tv one.
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2018 20:29:52 GMT -5
I think this article on Wikipedia put it best: The show's portrayal of a successful, stable black family was praised by some for breaking racial stereotypes and showing another part of the African-American experience. However, it was criticized by others, including Henry Louis Gates, for allowing white audiences to think that racism and poverty were problems of the past. As a result of the sexual assault allegations against Cosby, Malcolm-Jamal Warner has stated that the show's legacy is "tarnished". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cosby_Show#Reception_and_legacy
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Post by mattperiolat on Dec 19, 2018 21:39:59 GMT -5
Sadly, yeah. Cosby Show, Fat Albert, I Spy, any and all shows Cosby was involved with are damaged. Basically, how can we enjoy a show where off camera the lead is exploiting women?
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Dec 19, 2018 21:51:42 GMT -5
I cannot speak for anyone but myself on this. I still enjoy the show. I'm able to separate the character from the man and simply enjoy it for the funny and groundbreaking show it was. I cannot go a year without watching the Thanksgiving episode, it is right up there with the Friends Thanksgiving shows and the Doctor Who Christmas specials for my required holiday viewing.
That said, I can completely understand why people would find it hard to enjoy after everything we've learned about Cosby. Unfortunately, in today's day and age, it's becoming commonplace for formerly beloved celebrities to be exposed as pretty terrible human beings. Again, speaking only for myself, but if I stopped watching all my favorite TV shows or movies because the actor was scummy, I'd have nothing left to watch.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 19, 2018 22:18:41 GMT -5
Going forward? Maybe.
But if you're Gen X or so, its legacy of being a great show is pretty well set in a stone both just for entertainment value and being a bit of a ground-breaker as probably being one of the first truly huge mostly black cast shows that pulled in all demographics.
Also, the stand up bit Bill Cosby Himself particularly birthday cake for breakfast, is still funny. He's a monster, but that routine is still good.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 19, 2018 22:20:13 GMT -5
Honestly, almost all of them peaked with that show careerwise anyways. Having said that, I would think that Malcolm-Jamal Warner, Lisa Bonet, Erika Alexander, and Raven-Symoné all could, and sometimes do, still find work in Hollywood. Credit where it's due, Phylicia Rashad is still in stuff too. She was just in Creed 2. That woman has aged really well also.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 22:53:07 GMT -5
Another aspect of his legacy that gets torn to bits is the criticism he had for the African-American community to "better" themselves and become more moral. I mean, damn, dude.
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Post by SmashTV on Dec 20, 2018 2:54:05 GMT -5
Sad to say, but I think it's tarnished. You can watch it and see an idyllic middle class family, but behind the image of a doting husband and father - as in Cliff Huxtable - you have a real life monster. Personally, rightly or wrongly, I can't see beyond that.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Dec 20, 2018 3:06:53 GMT -5
It’s definitely tarnished. You’re never going to see a Blu Ray box set of the show. No one would even try to sell that. It was a great show but not too many people are going to watch it and feel good about it after what’s happened. I’m not judging those that do. Just saying the majority of people understandably won’t.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 20, 2018 3:20:34 GMT -5
The Cosby Show's legacy? Jell-O pudding and sexual assault
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Post by abjordans on Dec 20, 2018 6:30:16 GMT -5
the fact that Bill Cosby spent decades talking down on his own people and blaming poor black people for everything, only to end up how he has, is one of the great comeuppances in history if you ask me.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 20, 2018 7:48:30 GMT -5
To a degree it’s tarnished, yes, as it would be with any entertainer who gets caught doing something awful. One can still watch the show and enjoy it without approving of the crap Cosby pulled, as someone could watch a Benoit match or Polanski film without signing off on their misdeeds or downplaying them.
At the same time, I can also understand those who wouldn’t feel comfortable going back to their works. Basically, it’s really complicated.
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