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Post by lildude8218 on Jul 13, 2019 10:32:03 GMT -5
Not getting much on results from yesterday's show just yet. Razerhawk/Merlok was the opener, Callux and Volgar interfered and cost Razer his 3rd point. main event was Razer/Boomer/John Francis against the 3 heels.
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Post by Rave on Jul 13, 2019 11:26:26 GMT -5
Not getting much on results from yesterday's show just yet. Razerhawk/Merlok was the opener, Callux and Volgar interfered and cost Razer his 3rd point. main event was Razer/Boomer/John Francis against the 3 heels. I know the Crucible had a presence on the show in addition to matches that were already announced, but other than that, yeah, this is all I've got as well. Waiting to see if Boomer pops onto the Discord server, we've been getting results from him for several of these. I keep wanting to throw things at people who go to these, say what a great time they had, tweet pictures mid-event with no context, and don't even bother to mention what actually happened. FFS, would it kill them to mention even the barest of details? Hell, would it kill CHIKARA to keep that results blog of theirs updated regularly or even put results on their social media? *headdesk*
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 13, 2019 18:07:23 GMT -5
Seems to be the biggest problem of this year, a severe lack of results for some of these shows. CHIKARA having constant developing stories and points means that they kinda need to have results SOMEWHERE.
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Post by Rave on Jul 13, 2019 18:24:09 GMT -5
I HAVE RESULTS! Snagged these off the 101 Discord just now. Will post them at the usual places later as well. {Spoiler}Merlok def. Razerhawk via illegal pin/outside interference by Volgar & Callux (leads to trios main event later)
Mike Quackenbush def. Ace Haven via Quackendriver I
Still Life w/Apricots & Pears def. Cabana Man Dan via Venus De Milo
Blank def. Future Shock Tom Fulton via Rolling Elbow (I don't remember what he calls it, sorry)
Demorest def. Daniel Perez in 46 seconds via Inverted GTS (Again, apologies for not remembering what he calls it)
Travis Huckabee def. Thief Ant via Butterfly Suplex
John Francis Of Coronado/Boomer Hatfield/Razerhawk def. Merlok/Callux/Volgar with Boomer pinning Merlok after countering Merlok's powerbomb attempt into a Code Red.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 14, 2019 13:53:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been quiet about it for a while but I find it increasingly concerning that it has become harder and harder to find results for CHIKARA shows online in a timely fashion the past few seasons. The fact that the actual wrestlers are having to drop them is nuts.
That's typically not a good sign for a promotion.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 14, 2019 19:25:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been quiet about it for a while but I find it increasingly concerning that it has become harder and harder to find results for CHIKARA shows online in a timely fashion the past few seasons. The fact that the actual wrestlers are having to drop them is nuts. That's typically not a good sign for a promotion. CHIKARA's shown a ton of warning flags as the season has gone on. The biggest one is definitely that you don't really see any bigger indy name talents make appearances outside of KOT anymore, when just a few years ago you could see them just show up on random cards for spectacle matches. They're really relying on more local less known talent and their own factory kids, and that has definitely not helped especially for how much the Indy Scene has EXPANDED.
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Post by sushiburrito on Jul 15, 2019 12:36:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been quiet about it for a while but I find it increasingly concerning that it has become harder and harder to find results for CHIKARA shows online in a timely fashion the past few seasons. The fact that the actual wrestlers are having to drop them is nuts. That's typically not a good sign for a promotion.
Most shows the last few years have streamed on topia or IWTV. So putting results online isn't something people think there's a need of.
Wish people thought there was a need to post results for these baseball shows that aren't streamed. Not that there's anything really important happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 14:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 15, 2019 14:12:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been quiet about it for a while but I find it increasingly concerning that it has become harder and harder to find results for CHIKARA shows online in a timely fashion the past few seasons. The fact that the actual wrestlers are having to drop them is nuts. That's typically not a good sign for a promotion.
Most shows the last few years have streamed on topia or IWTV. So putting results online isn't something people think there's a need of.
Wish people thought there was a need to post results for these baseball shows that aren't streamed. Not that there's anything really important happening.
I respect what you're trying to say, but I think you miss my point. It's more concerning that here, and elsewhere on other forums I visit and used to visit, used to have people in a fever pitch show day and discussing the results for pages worth of posts. Multiple people released results on twitter and on boards because everyone wanted to talk about what was going on. Everyone was pumped and excited. It was a hot topic. Now crickets besides a few "Results?" posts usually.
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Post by sushiburrito on Jul 15, 2019 14:47:37 GMT -5
Most shows the last few years have streamed on topia or IWTV. So putting results online isn't something people think there's a need of.
Wish people thought there was a need to post results for these baseball shows that aren't streamed. Not that there's anything really important happening.
I respect what you're trying to say, but I think you miss my point. It's more concerning that here, and elsewhere on other forums I visit and used to visit, used to have people in a fever pitch show day and discussing the results for pages worth of posts. Multiple people released results on twitter and on boards because everyone wanted to talk about what was going on. Everyone was pumped and excited. It was a hot topic. Now crickets besides a few "Results?" posts usually.
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
I know you're talking long term but currently I think they've lost a ton of momentum with this summer of baseball shows. I found the crucible stuff very interesting but there's no momentum with that anymore either. Maybe they should have waited to do all the crucible videos etc until this summer lull. Can't blame them for not doing any storyline stuff on these shows since they can get rained out but still.
And besides Scott Steiner's team nothing announced for KOT is particular exciting either. And he's only exciting for the novelty of it.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 15, 2019 14:56:31 GMT -5
I respect what you're trying to say, but I think you miss my point. It's more concerning that here, and elsewhere on other forums I visit and used to visit, used to have people in a fever pitch show day and discussing the results for pages worth of posts. Multiple people released results on twitter and on boards because everyone wanted to talk about what was going on. Everyone was pumped and excited. It was a hot topic. Now crickets besides a few "Results?" posts usually.
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
I know you're talking long term but currently I think they've lost a ton of momentum with this summer of baseball shows. I found the crucible stuff very interesting but there's no momentum with that anymore either. Maybe they should have waited to do all the crucible videos etc until this summer lull. Can't blame them for not doing any storyline stuff on these shows since they can get rained out but still.
And besides Scott Steiner's team nothing announced for KOT is particular exciting either. And he's only exciting for the novelty of it.
Yeah, on the one hand the Crucible stuff is about the only interesting thing going on on these shows. On the other hand, CHIKARA finally had some buzz around it from the wrestling community at large for the first time in who knows how long right after the Crucible stuff aired and they killed it dead by doing a whole lot of nothing with it. It just seems really backwards to have this thing that made demoralized fans curious, brought some lapsed fans back and made some the product is foreign to interested and then do a series of shows that makes this white hot thing you got icy cold.
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Post by sushiburrito on Jul 15, 2019 15:02:07 GMT -5
Another weird thing is that the grand champion hasn't made an appearance since the end of May. Even though yes he was unmasked it's getting a bit dumb. Also FIST won the tag titles at the end of April. First defense is scheduled for September.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 15, 2019 20:02:34 GMT -5
Does it bug anyone else that CHIKARA is presenting FIST like they're the FIST from 2009? Cause like... they're not...
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jul 15, 2019 20:40:45 GMT -5
Does it bug anyone else that CHIKARA is presenting FIST like they're the FIST from 2009? Cause like... they're not... It's very rare when someone is a better face than heel, but....yeah, Travis Huckabee should have stayed babyface.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 15, 2019 20:44:29 GMT -5
Does it bug anyone else that CHIKARA is presenting FIST like they're the FIST from 2009? Cause like... they're not... It's very rare when someone is a better face than heel, but....yeah, Travis Huckabee should have stayed babyface. I like Deppen especially, dude's getting his shine lately as he'll be in BOLA this year too, but like... "The most dangerous trio in CHIKARA history", guys, they've teamed for like a year, they're not the same Akuma and Chuck Taylor Trio that FIST used to be... sure Icarus has all the credentials but it just isn't great wording to me. It's like acting like The Colony is one of the best Trios in CHIKARA History when Green Ant 2 and Thief Ant are shown on the picture... it doesnt work that way. Carrying on the legacy sure, but they're not the same team.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 15, 2019 21:19:41 GMT -5
It's very rare when someone is a better face than heel, but....yeah, Travis Huckabee should have stayed babyface. I like Deppen especially, dude's getting his shine lately as he'll be in BOLA this year too, but like... "The most dangerous trio in CHIKARA history", guys, they've teamed for like a year, they're not the same Akuma and Chuck Taylor Trio that FIST used to be... sure Icarus has all the credentials but it just isn't great wording to me. It's like acting like The Colony is one of the best Trios in CHIKARA History when Green Ant 2 and Thief Ant are shown on the picture... it doesnt work that way. Carrying on the legacy sure, but they're not the same team. I was actually going to say, they've done this before with teams like the Colony and BDK, and others. They've done this before with even another version of FIST (Icarus, Taylor and Gargano) and every time it feels...a little gross. Like, I can get the logic of it to an extent and especially if two thirds of the team are still the same working parts. But it just feels kind of weird and like they're trying to pull a fast one on you or a more unsuspecting fan. It feels like a carny move a low rent indie would resort to making. Not a promotion that once was arguably the number one independent wrestling promotion in America.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jul 15, 2019 21:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 15, 2019 22:35:33 GMT -5
I wonder if this is the actual reason why he's stopping his podcast then and not "To focus on Till We Make It"
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Post by sushiburrito on Jul 16, 2019 0:48:17 GMT -5
I wonder if this is the actual reason why he's stopping his podcast then and not "To focus on Till We Make It" The kayfabe 2.0 one? Pretty sure Quack did that alone. The one with Morris ended on January 8th 2018 from what I see.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jul 16, 2019 0:54:04 GMT -5
Next trio announced is Ophidian, The Whisper, and Lance Steel. I wonder if The Crucible will get 2 teams in this year.
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