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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 19, 2019 18:50:23 GMT -5
Asuka's was actually with Emma... which gets even DUMBER because Emma was fired two days later. And yet it just couldn't be a squash because who knows. ...how did I forget THAT?! ...Jesus, that really happened didn’t it? it's what got Lio Rush a bunch of heat...
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Post by eJm on Feb 19, 2019 18:51:36 GMT -5
...how did I forget THAT?! ...Jesus, that really happened didn’t it? it's what got Lio Rush a bunch of heat... ...F***, that’s right! I’m seriously baffled how I forgot all that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 18:52:04 GMT -5
Because between Raw and Smackdown they run five goddamn hours of TV every week. Not a problem to occasionally use some of that time to promote NXT. As far as execution, well, that's another story. How is this promoting NXT? Here are all these new guys! They’re not on the show you don’t watch anymore. Maybe you should watch it now. No one wants to do homework for phony wrestling. Make me care about them on the show that matters. Don’t just tell people to watch a random episode of a completely different show to understand why they’re worth a damn. Yes, the execution was quite bad, but getting some more eyes on NXT was obviously the goal there.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 19, 2019 18:52:19 GMT -5
Hell, I just remembered Neville's debut, and that was night and day compared to this. They put him on the Raw After Mania crowd, started flying around the ring for a couple minutes, and put on the exclamation point with the Red Arrow.
The only thing that was missing was a first name, but they sure didn't have him trading rest holds with Curtis Axel.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 19, 2019 18:52:46 GMT -5
How is this promoting NXT? Here are all these new guys! They’re not on the show you don’t watch anymore. Maybe you should watch it now. No one wants to do homework for phony wrestling. Make me care about them on the show that matters. Don’t just tell people to watch a random episode of a completely different show to understand why they’re worth a damn. because the idea was they'd post recaps of what is going on NXT right now so when they debut on the main roster the fans that only watch the Main Roster are familiar with them. Recaps are fine. Like the Smackdown Rewind type stuff. But this is backwards. Debuting a guy to drive views backwards to NXT is just weird and I doubt many people that don’t watch NXT are gonna be swayed to dig into a back catalogue to find out why they should care about a guy they never heard of
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 19, 2019 18:56:31 GMT -5
because the idea was they'd post recaps of what is going on NXT right now so when they debut on the main roster the fans that only watch the Main Roster are familiar with them. Recaps are fine. Like the Smackdown Rewind type stuff. But this is backwards. Debuting a guy to drive views backwards to NXT is just weird and I doubt many people that don’t watch NXT are gonna be swayed to dig into a back catalogue to find out why they should care about a guy they never heard of I don't think that's what anyone is talking about. people are doing hype videos for NXT to get more eyes on the product... so that people know who the hell they are when they debut. not Debut them and say hey figure out why this guy is important by watching NXT (which is more or less what they ARE doing right now)
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Post by eJm on Feb 19, 2019 19:00:00 GMT -5
Recaps are fine. Like the Smackdown Rewind type stuff. But this is backwards. Debuting a guy to drive views backwards to NXT is just weird and I doubt many people that don’t watch NXT are gonna be swayed to dig into a back catalogue to find out why they should care about a guy they never heard of I don't think that's what anyone is talking about. people are doing hype videos for NXT to get more eyes on the product... so that people know who the hell they are when they debut. not Debut them and say hey figure out why this guy is important by watching NXT (which is more or less what they ARE doing right now) Yeah, pretty much. And if those people are treated as big deals, then viewers will go “Hey, if these people are what’s coming from NXT, we should check this product out!” and then follow their progress from there to the main roster. Heck, the key reason NXT is put with the performance center (and for some reason is seen as a loss because...how the hell do you make money from something that is designed to not do that?) is because the long term goal is for people from there to draw enough to subsidies the losses. Which is redundant if they’re all made to look like crap on entry.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 19, 2019 19:04:46 GMT -5
Recaps are fine. Like the Smackdown Rewind type stuff. But this is backwards. Debuting a guy to drive views backwards to NXT is just weird and I doubt many people that don’t watch NXT are gonna be swayed to dig into a back catalogue to find out why they should care about a guy they never heard of I don't think that's what anyone is talking about. people are doing hype videos for NXT to get more eyes on the product... so that people know who the hell they are when they debut. not Debut them and say hey figure out why this guy is important by watching NXT (which is more or less what they ARE doing right now) Yeah, I’m really liking the idea of weekly NXT recap segments on Raw. It just makes sense, as it’s foolish to assume everyone is following NXT. Or even alternate, one week show NXT highlights, one week show UK highlights so that people at least have a passing familiarity with the guys before they debut. And if it convinces a few people to check out NXT, then bonus. Even like a little 60 second spot highlighting the main event of weekly TV, or like a 5 minute segment when there’s a Takeover would be a step in the right direction and make these random debuts go over better.
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Post by brown bricks on Feb 19, 2019 19:11:55 GMT -5
A lot of casual fans don’t watch Raw or Smackdown, so I’d say it shouldn’t be a shock that they don’t watch NXT.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 19, 2019 19:11:56 GMT -5
You know who else doesn't watch NXT?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 19:50:16 GMT -5
It’s like it Carlito and John Cena were just dumped on tv in 2003...
NXT kinda kills what the US and IC titles were used for. Instead of seeing a guy rise through the ranks and win mid card gold and get behind them as characters all of that is done in NXT, once they hit the main card they are either in his weird semi maineventer role to big for the midcard belts but not really ready for the world title either
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Feb 19, 2019 20:29:12 GMT -5
NXT's evolution is absolutely curious to me at the moment. We have NXT, NXT UK, and I would imagine an NXT women's show and/or NXT Asia coming sooner than later. What was once looked at as an in-house developmental has morphed into a legitimate third brand with several tentacles. When they started pulling in all of the indy talent with that first wave (PAC, Zayn, etc.)and pushing out the lower-end talent and also-rans, it changed the perception of NXT from developmental to a legit touring brand. Since then, they have collected loads of talent from the indy ranks and, with Takeovers always outpacing the main PPVs in terms of entertainment value, NXT is the shiny penny of the WWE universe.
With that said, I see the NXT guys being on RAW/SD this week as a one-time deal to increase Network buys. Nothing more. Ciampa and Gargano aren't going anywhere yet since they are the top singles champs. Ricochet and Black are ready, with nothing holding them back, so this might be more than a one-shot for them.
With that said x2, if they put Ciampa/Gargano over the Usos tonight, I'll be miffed.
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Feb 19, 2019 20:31:48 GMT -5
I'll add, I am absolutely NOT against NXT becoming a fluid part of WWE's cable shows. I'd love to see some of the NXT UK, 205 Live stars come in and out when it makes sense. If the goal is to eventually direct the majority of attention towards the Network and streaming (the tech is finally there), it's not a bad way to go.
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Post by realist on Feb 20, 2019 13:51:48 GMT -5
I just realized that my hometown of Lafayette, Louisiana is currently the biggest heel in all of WWE. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy this monster push. lol
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 20, 2019 14:33:00 GMT -5
WWE in general are down to the hardcore audience and not much else.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2019 15:01:16 GMT -5
It’s like it Carlito and John Cena were just dumped on tv in 2003... NXT kinda kills what the US and IC titles were used for. Instead of seeing a guy rise through the ranks and win mid card gold and get behind them as characters all of that is done in NXT, once they hit the main card they are either in his weird semi maineventer role to big for the midcard belts but not really ready for the world title either They do that because they can't effectively build anyone, they basically have to debut someone as a maineventer to make one, if they debut the guy lower he never advances because they don't know how to book a build. Refusing to allow anyone to win in a decided fashion or have any type of consistent dominant type of performances means once again, no one is over so no one cares.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 20, 2019 16:20:41 GMT -5
WWE are worse at WHAT'S ______ DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE debuts than TNA ever were. They definitely are, because however hilarious that one line is, still gets across more information than WWE do. 1. This is a known face from somewhere else or TNA's past 2. If you do know them, here is their new gimmick name 3. If you don't know them, here is their name 4. Intrigue, because what ARE they doing there? A lot more comes across in that than 'OH MY!' Honestly I feel like the way the main roster uses NXT guys on their callups would if anything actively dissuade me from watching it if I wasn't already. Why would I care about NXT after they go, "Oh my God, you need to see this Shinsuke Nakamura, he is SO good, he tore NXT up!" and then he immediately goes and has a bunch of long, boring-ass matches with Ziggler? Quite a few people have been down on Nakamura's work since coming to WWE at all, which is kind of fair enough even if I don't agree, but if you'd only seen him on Smackdown, Good Lord I don't know why you could possibly give a shit about him.
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Post by bog on Feb 20, 2019 19:56:22 GMT -5
WWE are worse at WHAT'S ______ DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE debuts than TNA ever were. They definitely are, because however hilarious that one line is, still gets across more information than WWE do. 1. This is a known face from somewhere else or TNA's past 2. If you do know them, here is their new gimmick name 3. If you don't know them, here is their name 4. Intrigue, because what ARE they doing there? A lot more comes across in that than 'OH MY!' Honestly I feel like the way the main roster uses NXT guys on their callups would if anything actively dissuade me from watching it if I wasn't already. Why would I care about NXT after they go, "Oh my God, you need to see this Shinsuke Nakamura, he is SO good, he tore NXT up!" and then he immediately goes and has a bunch of long, boring-ass matches with Ziggler? Quite a few people have been down on Nakamura's work since coming to WWE at all, which is kind of fair enough even if I don't agree, but if you'd only seen him on Smackdown, Good Lord I don't know why you could possibly give a shit about him. The only weird silver lining here is that WWE has proven (with Nakamura bring a good example) is just as bad with hyping people up with videos and segments and such to the point where the wrestler can't deliver. These guys are at least working their way up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 20:29:40 GMT -5
Also they burn through good matches in NXT too.
I was watching Smackdown and thought why don’t they have Nakamura fight Joe. Oh yeah they did that in NXT.
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