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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 3, 2019 18:24:26 GMT -5
Method Man. Dude rolled a 20 on everything it takes to be a good rapper. Voice, flow, technique. He's got maybe the most famous group of friends ever in rap. He's good looking. He's got loads of street cred, but he's also got an unthreatening side. His lyrics are playful (a little simple compared to his Clan friends, but for the mainstream that's not necessarily bad) and when he's punchline focused, they land. And with all that? Eh. He's done fine. He's that guy that likes to smoke weed, right? Personally, I always thought the wind went out of Wu-Tang's sails with Wu-Tang Forever. RZA's master plan worked, they obtained dominance on their own terms..and then it was like "What now?" Aside from ODB's second solo album and a couple Ghostface jawns, nothing they did as a group or solo ever came close to the potency of their work in the mid 90's. And Meth will always be able to say he was on The Wire too. Wu-Tang was never meant to be mainstream; they're too heady and weird. So it was always this bizarre thing that they were as big as they were. Ghostface Killah and GZA are huge, huge, huge talents... both easily top 5 rappers of all time, if you ask me... but both are indie rappers and always have been. Can you imagine the f***ing Genius doing a verse on a Katy Perry single, or Ghostface doing the rap part of Bad Blood? They keep putting out good to great albums (along with, of all people, Masta Killa), but despite how Ghostface fronts, he's more MF Doom than Jay-Z. But Meth? Meth coulda done it. He really could have crossed over.
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Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 3, 2019 21:29:18 GMT -5
Andrew Wood. He had everything needed to be a huge star, and it looked like his band, Mother Love Bone, were about to break huge with their album "Apple". Then he lost his life to drugs. It really changed the entire "grunge" scene here in Seattle.
It's crazy though, because his death literally set in motion so many things. Mother Love Bone ending lead to the creation of Pearl Jam. Temple of the Dog was born out of Andy's death. Nirvana became the poster child for "grunge" after MLB disbanded.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 3, 2019 22:01:16 GMT -5
Personally, I always thought the wind went out of Wu-Tang's sails with Wu-Tang Forever. RZA's master plan worked, they obtained dominance on their own terms..and then it was like "What now?" Aside from ODB's second solo album and a couple Ghostface jawns, nothing they did as a group or solo ever came close to the potency of their work in the mid 90's. And Meth will always be able to say he was on The Wire too. Wu-Tang was never meant to be mainstream; they're too heady and weird. So it was always this bizarre thing that they were as big as they were. Ghostface Killah and GZA are huge, huge, huge talents... both easily top 5 rappers of all time, if you ask me... but both are indie rappers and always have been. Can you imagine the f***ing Genius doing a verse on a Katy Perry single, or Ghostface doing the rap part of Bad Blood? They keep putting out good to great albums (along with, of all people, Masta Killa), but despite how Ghostface fronts, he's more MF Doom than Jay-Z. But Meth? Meth coulda done it. He really could have crossed over. I dunno, Blackout! with Redman was a killer record, too, so I’m not sure I’d consider him a waste of potential because some of his output was fully realized. I understand your argument, but he wouldn’t be one of the first people to come to mind for me.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 4, 2019 5:33:50 GMT -5
Andrew Wood. He had everything needed to be a huge star, and it looked like his band, Mother Love Bone, were about to break huge with their album "Apple". Then he lost his life to drugs. It really changed the entire "grunge" scene here in Seattle. It's crazy though, because his death literally set in motion so many things. Mother Love Bone ending lead to the creation of Pearl Jam. Temple of the Dog was born out of Andy's death. Nirvana became the poster child for "grunge" after MLB disbanded. it also inspired Alice in Chains' best song.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Mar 4, 2019 6:33:21 GMT -5
Famous Monsters wasnt as bad as people say, yeah there are a few meh tracks and its not a good as American Psycho, but songs like Dust To Dust, Lost In Space, Scream, Descending Angel, Helena, and Pumpkinhead are all damn fine songs. I do find that ALOT of people dismiss 90s Misfits simply because they continued on with the name without Danzig singing. and ALOT of hate I heard from people at the time and still read online twords Graves is 90% the fact he sang for The Misfits and isnt Danzig. Jerry did turn them into Punk KISS and got that Logo everywhere, him and Doyle seem to operate in similar ways with Doyle trying to market his skull logo on several thousand things. And then theres those Misfits shirts at JC Penny and WalMart that have the special "endorsed by Glenn Danzig" labels on them. the whole operation has turned into KISS at this point. I will die defending the hill that Graves is the best singer they've ever had. I love both but I think their singing styles are to different to compare
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