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Post by KofiMania on Apr 21, 2019 9:16:24 GMT -5
Ok I have a question, let’s say that Nick or Matt get injured for Double or Nothing, can Cody still sell it out? With him in the main event, not Omega and not Jericho, I’m talking Cody being responsible for selling it out. I’d rank them as draws: 1. Jericho 2. Omega 3. Cody / Bucks (tied)
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Post by toodarkmark on Apr 21, 2019 9:57:30 GMT -5
Well he's special enough that people make discussions about him on forums to try to elicit validation for their negative feelings for him.
Cody is a Hall of Fame wrestler. A once in a lifetime talent. His reach is beyond who Smackdown told you to mark out for this week, bro. If you don't get it, it's not for you.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 21, 2019 10:01:47 GMT -5
Cody is a absolutely amazing character worker and pretty good(not top level) in-ring.
But its his character that carries him,since he first became "Gorgeous" Cody Rhodes he put it all in his character
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 21, 2019 10:07:41 GMT -5
Cody is an average in ring worker, a good WWE style character guy, he has a famous father and that was enough to carry him to the upper midcard in the WWE. What he really excels at is his hustle, he worked his backside off to try and make it work in the WWE and when it became clear that he was never going to progress to a higher spot in the card, he decided to leave rather than sit and collect checks and whinge on social medial like the Zigglers of this world, he worked anywhere and everywhere and he made himself. Yes his last name helped open doors, but his behind the scenes workrate and initiative kept them open long enough for him to make the most of the chances.
Still think he's an idiot for not negotiating to obtain the rights to the Rhodes last name during his WWE departure, he left on good terms, after all.
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Post by octopus on Apr 21, 2019 10:08:08 GMT -5
Cody got where he was because of who he knows. Not what he knows.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 21, 2019 10:21:27 GMT -5
Well he's special enough that people make discussions about him on forums to try to elicit validation for their negative feelings for him. Cody is a Hall of Fame wrestler. A once in a lifetime talent. His reach is beyond who Smackdown told you to mark out for this week, bro. If you don't get it, it's not for you. A once in a lifetime talent? Hold your horses cowboy, cmon Daniel Bryan or Punk he’s not.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 21, 2019 10:27:15 GMT -5
Cody got where he was because of who he knows. Not what he knows. So have 95% of people in any industry ever. You could be the second coming of Eistein, Oppenheimer and Hawking all rolled into one, but if you don’t know the right people to get your foot in the door to develop and groom those skills then you’re another untapped genius working as an unskilled labourer
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 10:27:54 GMT -5
I like the oldschool vibe he carries himself with and he's done some of the coolest storylines in alternative wrestling, between "Bullet Club is fine," his NWA title feud, and now the potential of this Dustin Rhodes angle, he makes up for his "good enough" in-ring style with exceptional character work. He's the key reason I'm excited about AEW because I feel like he has a really firm grasp on how to tell wrestling stories.
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Post by KobashiChop on Apr 21, 2019 10:28:59 GMT -5
Hes a great character worker and dives in deep with everything he does.
He isn't bad as a wrestler but in an era of guys of Ibushi, Okada and Omega it makes him look worse than he is. If he was at his same level ten years ago hed be rated higher.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 21, 2019 10:30:45 GMT -5
Cody got where he was because of who he knows. Not what he knows. So have 95% of people in any industry ever. You could be the second coming of Eistein, Oppenheimer and Hawking all rolled into one, but if you don’t know the right people to get your foot in the door to develop and groom those skills then you’re another untapped genius working as an unskilled labourer 95% of the people in wrestling don’t have one of the biggest legends in history as their father. 95% of people in wrestling don’t befriend the hottest act outside the wwe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 10:37:00 GMT -5
he's a top notch marketer
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 21, 2019 10:44:47 GMT -5
So have 95% of people in any industry ever. You could be the second coming of Eistein, Oppenheimer and Hawking all rolled into one, but if you don’t know the right people to get your foot in the door to develop and groom those skills then you’re another untapped genius working as an unskilled labourer 95% of the people in wrestling don’t have one of the biggest legends in history as their father. 95% of people in wrestling don’t befriend the hottest act outside the wwe. So? -Ted DiBiaseJr -Manu -Jimmy Snuka Jr -Tamina -David Flair And the list could go on. All wrestlers who had the EXACT same leg up that Cody did. By your logic, they should all be where Cody is. Why did Cody succeed when they failed? Dumb luck? Or is it possibly work ethic and skill? And look at the ENTIRE AEW roster, they’re where they’re at because they made friends with someone who took a chance on them. Discrediting someone for that is just pure, biased dislike. This thread might as well have been called “I don’t like Cody, and no logic will change that”. Next someone is gonna say he shouldn’t be a star because he prefers Zelda II to the original. Those seem to be the straws being grasped at. EDIT: Austin was friends with Chris Adams, that’s how he got into WCW. Guess he didn’t earn his success either. Same with Foley coming to WWE because of his relationship with JR, guess that’s undeserved because he had to “gasp” use a friends connections to try and get a job. What a piece of shit
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Post by Dub H on Apr 21, 2019 10:46:07 GMT -5
So have 95% of people in any industry ever. You could be the second coming of Eistein, Oppenheimer and Hawking all rolled into one, but if you don’t know the right people to get your foot in the door to develop and groom those skills then you’re another untapped genius working as an unskilled labourer 95% of the people in wrestling don’t have one of the biggest legends in history as their father. 95% of people in wrestling don’t befriend the hottest act outside the wwe. I think cody is by all means a great wrestlers.One of the best today.Top 10 probably or at least 20 But funny enough he is a Triple H,he is never gonna be the best guy,but he knows all the best people and is savvy about the industry
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 21, 2019 10:49:48 GMT -5
95% of the people in wrestling don’t have one of the biggest legends in history as their father. 95% of people in wrestling don’t befriend the hottest act outside the wwe. So? -Ted DiBiaseJr -Manu -Jimmy Snuka Jr -Tamina -David Flair And the list could go on. All wrestlers who had the EXACT same leg up that Cody did. By your logic, they should all be where Cody is. Why did Cody succeed when they failed? Dumb luck? Or is it possibly work ethic and skill? And look at the ENTIRE AEW roster, they’re where they’re at because they made friends with someone who took a chance on them. Discrediting someone for that is just pure, biased dislike. This thread might as well have been called “I don’t like Cody, and no logic will change that”. Next someone is gonna say he shouldn’t be a star because he prefers Zelda II to the original. Those seem to be the straws being grasped at. EDIT: Austin was friends with Chris Adams, that’s how he got into WCW. Guess he didn’t earn his success either. Same with Foley coming to WWE because of his relationship with JR, guess that’s undeserved because he had to “gasp” use a friends connections to try and get a job. What a piece of shit Yes he’s talented but let’s not pretend that he wasn’t born in third base already. Also just to correct something, Austin didn’t got into wcw because of Chris Adams, he and Adams had a very bad relationship and he went to Memphis first and starved before going to wcw. And liking Zelda 2 should be against the Geneva convention, that game f***ing sucks. Also Austin was told by Vince that he was just brought in as a mechanic in the ring and that he would never cut a promo because of his Texan accent, he also said that Foley was another fat random rassler that wasn’t special. It took a lot to get them both hired, instead Cody got a contract right away, huh guess it pays who your Daddeh is babbeh.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 21, 2019 10:55:13 GMT -5
He's married to Brandi, and before that he dated Layla El. Whatever Cody has that makes him special, I want some of it, too.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 21, 2019 10:55:24 GMT -5
Hennig has a case that he might have been the best wrestler in America for a brief period of time (roughly 1990-91 during his IC run). No one can seriously claim that Cody is that or ever will be.
Truth be told, Cody is the luckiest man in wrestling. He managed to get involved in the Bullet Club right when Omega started getting mega over in NJPW with the Okada matches and also Adam Cole left ROH for NXT and thus the whole Bullet Club infighting storyline was shifted from Cole to Cody. Cody's famous name also made him an obvious guy for NJPW to feature when they first started running in the USA. But if Cody hadn't stumbled into that whole deal there he would probably have screwed around in TNA for a while, had a lackluster ROH run, and finally gone back to WWE to be an undercard guy.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 21, 2019 10:57:44 GMT -5
He's married to Brandi, and before that he dated Layla El. Whatever Cody has that makes him special, I want some of it, too. wrestling is a business full of handsome fit people. You have good chancds of dating other handsome fit people
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 10:57:58 GMT -5
Honestly...nothing
He is in the class of....jack of all trades but master of none
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 21, 2019 11:12:38 GMT -5
So? -Ted DiBiaseJr -Manu -Jimmy Snuka Jr -Tamina -David Flair And the list could go on. All wrestlers who had the EXACT same leg up that Cody did. By your logic, they should all be where Cody is. Why did Cody succeed when they failed? Dumb luck? Or is it possibly work ethic and skill? And look at the ENTIRE AEW roster, they’re where they’re at because they made friends with someone who took a chance on them. Discrediting someone for that is just pure, biased dislike. This thread might as well have been called “I don’t like Cody, and no logic will change that”. Next someone is gonna say he shouldn’t be a star because he prefers Zelda II to the original. Those seem to be the straws being grasped at. EDIT: Austin was friends with Chris Adams, that’s how he got into WCW. Guess he didn’t earn his success either. Same with Foley coming to WWE because of his relationship with JR, guess that’s undeserved because he had to “gasp” use a friends connections to try and get a job. What a piece of shit Yes he’s talented but let’s not pretend that he wasn’t born in third base already. Also just to correct something, Austin didn’t got into wcw because of Chris Adams, he and Adams had a very bad relationship and he went to Memphis first and starved before going to wcw. And liking Zelda 2 should be against the Geneva convention, that game f***ing sucks. Also Austin was told by Vince that he was just brought in as a mechanic in the ring and that he would never cut a promo because of his Texan accent, he also said that Foley was another fat random rassler that wasn’t special. It took a lot to get them both hired, instead Cody got a contract right away, huh guess it pays who your Daddeh is babbeh. My bad on the Austin thing, I thought the falling out happened in WCW. I’m usually more on point then that. The point was Foley and Austin got opportunities in WWE because of who they were friends with which is absolutely NO different then getting an opportunity because of who your family is. They all made the most of the opportunity. Lots of people get born on 3rd base, I’d say the entire PC who got hired without any training, were born on 3rd base. Very few of them actually get home, but Cody’s going for his 3rd or 4th trip around the bags and has a couple RBI’s this game. He’s earned everything he has, and to say otherwise is just personal bias. It’s a simple fact of life, it’s not what you know but who you know. Doesn’t matter if you’re Bill Gates kid, or your friends dad is a low level programmer. If you’re working at Microsoft it’s because someone you know got your foot in the door. Same with every other industry. EDIT: And I didn’t even address the most egregious part of your post!! How dare you besmirch Zelda II!!! I love that game
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 21, 2019 11:16:50 GMT -5
And I’m not saying everyone has to like Cody. Far from it, but to discredit his hard work and to say he hasn’t earned his success because his last name is Rhodes gets under my skin a little.
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