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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 0:39:10 GMT -5
People don't really think Charlotte's some kind of big time backstage politician, do they? Honestly? You’d be surprised, haha. I don’t mind the jokes of her being one, but there really are some people who genuinely believe that her and or Ric have backstage pull when it comes to Charlotte’s career. The jokes are funny, I'll probably be cracking a few myself about her politicking. It's just everything I've read about her from people who've worked with her makes her out to be the complete opposite. I don't think someone who's as out for herself as people say she is would take another hot blonde like Alexa under her wing and protect her from bullying, knowing she could very well be a threat to her spot. Can she afford to be comfortable because the company will always see her a star? Sure, but there's nothing wrong with that. I choose to believe she and Becky are both genuinely nice people who like to help others.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 0:40:13 GMT -5
Honestly? You’d be surprised, haha. I don’t mind the jokes of her being one, but there really are some people who genuinely believe that her and or Ric have backstage pull when it comes to Charlotte’s career. The jokes are funny, I'll probably be cracking a few myself about her politicking. It's just everything I've read about her from people who've worked with her make her out to be the complete opposite. I don't think someone who's as out for herself as people say she is would take another hot blonde like Alexa under her wing and protect her from bullying, knowing she could very well be a threat to her spot. Can she afford to be comfortable because the company will always see her a star? Sure, but there's nothing wrong with that. I choose to believe she and Becky are both genuinely nice people who like to help others. Nice and wholesome, the way it should be.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 24, 2019 1:06:21 GMT -5
The jokes are funny, I'll probably be cracking a few myself about her politicking. It's just everything I've read about her from people who've worked with her make her out to be the complete opposite. I don't think someone who's as out for herself as people say she is would take another hot blonde like Alexa under her wing and protect her from bullying, knowing she could very well be a threat to her spot. Can she afford to be comfortable because the company will always see her a star? Sure, but there's nothing wrong with that. I choose to believe she and Becky are both genuinely nice people who like to help others. Nice and wholesome, the way it should be. It sounds like she has a very professional attitude about it too, especially when she gets to articulate her perspective in interviews and panels like at SXSW:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 1:59:12 GMT -5
They’re obviously gonna have Charlotte win the title 16 times... it’s a joke.
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Post by Tired as heck on Apr 24, 2019 2:33:14 GMT -5
Meh. I don't have a problem if she has title matches, I'd say she deserves it.
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Post by government mule on Apr 24, 2019 3:06:19 GMT -5
She'll easily be a 25+ time Women's champion at this rate before she finally calls it a day. I say go for it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 5:54:18 GMT -5
So this storyline that’s been going for 9 months and is based on people not wanting Charlotte as champion is going to end with Charlotte as champion.
Do people really believe this is some grand scheme to put over Bayley or Ember? Even if they get a win over her it will ultimately end with Charlotte winning the feud like she did with Sasha, Asuka, Becky the first time around in 2016 and now Becky again by the looks of it.
At least as a babyface she actually lost a feud, even if it was to Carmella of all people.
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Post by grungesmurf on Apr 24, 2019 5:56:16 GMT -5
Gotta make sure she reaches her daddy’s number of title reigns ASAP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 6:14:56 GMT -5
So this storyline that’s been going for 9 months and is based on people not wanting Charlotte as champion is going to end with Charlotte as champion. Do people really believe this is some grand scheme to put over Bayley or Ember? Even if they get a win over her it will ultimately end with Charlotte winning the feud like she did with Sasha, Asuka, Becky the first time around in 2016 and now Becky again by the looks of it. At least as a babyface she actually lost a feud, even if it was to Carmella of all people. Even if Charlotte wins the title at MITB there's no way I'd be able to say she won the feud with Becky, especially if she ends up facing a Becky who's tired and banged up from defending the Raw title against Lacey. Becky has dominated her since SummerSlam like she's the Milwaukee Bucks and Charlotte's the Detroit Pistons.
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Post by sunnytaker on Apr 24, 2019 6:32:06 GMT -5
To be honest I really don't even mind for a few reasons. - Charlotte really needs a win over Becky at this point to really be able to be bought as a threat going forward. She's been her personal jobber for most of the past year. - Becky needs to hurry up and lose the SmackDown Women's title, both since she's obviously exhausted trying to do both and SmackDown needs to separate itself from the dumpster fire that is Raw's division. - They're probably going to do a thing where Lacey beats her half to death before losing on a fluke then Charlotte easily picks up the scraps, since that's the easiest way to advance the direction of all three's characters at the moment. haven't watched the show yet but what happened to the "no automatic rematches" thing they were pushing for about a month or so? was there a big * around stating "unless you're charlotte" yeah SD title is the one becky is going to lose but I think they may do your scenario one better. becky beats lacey, women's MITB match won by smackdown person. becky/charlotte have another one of their beat each other to a pulp matches where becky ekes out a win, then MITB winner cashes in ala alexa last year to pick the bones of the scraps to take the title. dunno who it would be, seeing a lot of mandy being favored but maybe a heel ember move if she wins as ember has been pretty stagnant as a face, and can create a situation where asuka has to case her for a while- or bayley feeling betrayed that ember would take a shortcut like that to start a feud there. or charlotte comes out and says "if I didn't beat her so bad you wouldn't have that title" (DING! objective met- charlotte title match clause invoked- and she gets another shot....
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 24, 2019 6:36:46 GMT -5
You ever just think "damn, breadsticks are cool as f***"? But can you (generic "you", not you in particular) build a strawman out of them? And can you make it say "TEN YEAR NONSTOP TITLE REIGN WOOOOOOOO!"
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Post by Starshine on Apr 24, 2019 7:43:07 GMT -5
So this storyline that’s been going for 9 months and is based on people not wanting Charlotte as champion is going to end with Charlotte as champion. Do people really believe this is some grand scheme to put over Bayley or Ember? Even if they get a win over her it will ultimately end with Charlotte winning the feud like she did with Sasha, Asuka, Becky the first time around in 2016 and now Becky again by the looks of it. At least as a babyface she actually lost a feud, even if it was to Carmella of all people. She took the belt from Carmella, so I wouldn't say she lost that feud either.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 24, 2019 8:26:50 GMT -5
For the sake of Becky having two matches on one show, giving her one opponent she's very familiar with makes complete sense. As I said in another thread, they had her working Alexa and Charlotte on the two house show tours, these last couple of weeks, because the time she has to plan matches is probably limited by her travel itinerary and workload. It's the same with this PPV. And with Becky vs. Charlotte, you know you're getting a good match, even if it's not particularly fresh.
Becky vs. Lacey is an unknown quantity right now, and I'm sure it will be the shorter match. I'd hope that they won't have Becky lose either belt just yet, because there's more story to be told. But I wouldn't be surprised, because if there's one thing the WWE always sucks at, it's timing their stories. Everything is either completely rushed or dragged out to the point no one cares any more.
I'd rather have Becky beat Charlotte, and then Charlotte run a programme with Bayley on Smackdown, to decide on a number one contender for Summerslam. Then give Bayley a big win over Becky there.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 24, 2019 8:30:40 GMT -5
This is clearly to hand the Smackdown Title over to Charlotte, I think Becky will beat Lacey earlier, then Lacey will come out and screw Becky out of the Smackdown Title, and then the titles are back to where they need to be.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Apr 24, 2019 9:17:30 GMT -5
To be honest I really don't even mind for a few reasons. - Charlotte really needs a win over Becky at this point to really be able to be bought as a threat going forward. She's been her personal jobber for most of the past year. - Becky needs to hurry up and lose the SmackDown Women's title, both since she's obviously exhausted trying to do both and SmackDown needs to separate itself from the dumpster fire that is Raw's division. - They're probably going to do a thing where Lacey beats her half to death before losing on a fluke then Charlotte easily picks up the scraps, since that's the easiest way to advance the direction of all three's characters at the moment. Charlotte does not NEED anything. She's an 8 time champion. A month ago she won the Smackdown title just to prove a point. If any woman in WWE is bullet proof, it's her. She has also hardly been Becky's personal jobber. Charlotte has lost to Becky in a match exactly twice. Three times counting the Rumble. Charlotte has been in the title picture nearly her entire main roster run. If she beats Becky for the title, then that's practically wasting Becky winning at Mania. It makes this entire process to get Becky over was all so Charlotte to get the last word over Becky. These two will be having matches for the rest of their careers, who decides when the last word is? If Charlotte had won at Wrestlemania, and subsequently dropped a title to Becky at MiTB, how many people would be saying 'well at least Becky won the most important match/won the fued in the end'?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 24, 2019 9:24:49 GMT -5
Charlotte does not NEED anything. She's an 8 time champion. A month ago she won the Smackdown title just to prove a point. If any woman in WWE is bullet proof, it's her. She has also hardly been Becky's personal jobber. Charlotte has lost to Becky in a match exactly twice. Three times counting the Rumble. Charlotte has been in the title picture nearly her entire main roster run. If she beats Becky for the title, then that's practically wasting Becky winning at Mania. It makes this entire process to get Becky over was all so Charlotte to get the last word over Becky. These two will be having matches for the rest of their careers, who decides when the last word is? If Charlotte had won at Wrestlemania, and subsequently dropped a title to Becky at MiTB, how many people would be saying 'well at least Becky won the most important match/won the fued in the end'? The last word is the one that feeds into the paranoia of the fans' worst neuroses.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 9:31:41 GMT -5
So this storyline that’s been going for 9 months and is based on people not wanting Charlotte as champion is going to end with Charlotte as champion. Do people really believe this is some grand scheme to put over Bayley or Ember? Even if they get a win over her it will ultimately end with Charlotte winning the feud like she did with Sasha, Asuka, Becky the first time around in 2016 and now Becky again by the looks of it. At least as a babyface she actually lost a feud, even if it was to Carmella of all people. Yes, yes I do believe that it’ll end with a babyface getting a win on her and ultimately the feud itself. Just because they did something with Charlotte/Sasha doesn’t mean that they’re going to do the same with Charlotte/Bayley or Charlotte/Ember. On top of that, Becky ultimately won the feud in the end. She whooped Charlotte for eight months, got her out of the rumble, and pretty much continued to defeat her at every turn. One win isn’t going to negate all of that.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 24, 2019 10:26:21 GMT -5
So this storyline that’s been going for 9 months and is based on people not wanting Charlotte as champion is going to end with Charlotte as champion. Do people really believe this is some grand scheme to put over Bayley or Ember? Even if they get a win over her it will ultimately end with Charlotte winning the feud like she did with Sasha, Asuka, Becky the first time around in 2016 and now Becky again by the looks of it. At least as a babyface she actually lost a feud, even if it was to Carmella of all people. Yes, yes I do believe that it’ll end with a babyface getting a win on her and ultimately the feud itself. Just because they did something with Charlotte/Sasha doesn’t mean that they’re going to do the same with Charlotte/Bayley or Charlotte/Ember. On top of that, Becky ultimately won the feud in the end. She whooped Charlotte for eight months, got her out of the rumble, and pretty much continued to defeat her at every turn. One win isn’t going to negate all of that. Plus her beating Sasha in 2016 (at the end of a 50/50 feud) was so she could then feud with Bayley (as had already been teased before Survivor Series) and then put her over, an important part of the context that gets ignored in all those ‘Charlotte buried Sasha’ narratives.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 24, 2019 10:35:27 GMT -5
To be honest I really don't even mind for a few reasons. - Charlotte really needs a win over Becky at this point to really be able to be bought as a threat going forward. She's been her personal jobber for most of the past year. - Becky needs to hurry up and lose the SmackDown Women's title, both since she's obviously exhausted trying to do both and SmackDown needs to separate itself from the dumpster fire that is Raw's division. - They're probably going to do a thing where Lacey beats her half to death before losing on a fluke then Charlotte easily picks up the scraps, since that's the easiest way to advance the direction of all three's characters at the moment. haven't watched the show yet but what happened to the "no automatic rematches" thing they were pushing for about a month or so? was there a big * around stating "unless you're charlotte" yeah SD title is the one becky is going to lose but I think they may do your scenario one better. becky beats lacey, women's MITB match won by smackdown person. becky/charlotte have another one of their beat each other to a pulp matches where becky ekes out a win, then MITB winner cashes in ala alexa last year to pick the bones of the scraps to take the title. dunno who it would be, seeing a lot of mandy being favored but maybe a heel ember move if she wins as ember has been pretty stagnant as a face, and can create a situation where asuka has to case her for a while- or bayley feeling betrayed that ember would take a shortcut like that to start a feud there. or charlotte comes out and says "if I didn't beat her so bad you wouldn't have that title" (DING! objective met- charlotte title match clause invoked- and she gets another shot.... What happened is that instead of "no automatic rematches" we now have "Number 1 contender's match that just happens to be won by the person who'd get an automatic rematch before".
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Post by Dub H on Apr 24, 2019 10:39:24 GMT -5
Yes, yes I do believe that it’ll end with a babyface getting a win on her and ultimately the feud itself. Just because they did something with Charlotte/Sasha doesn’t mean that they’re going to do the same with Charlotte/Bayley or Charlotte/Ember. On top of that, Becky ultimately won the feud in the end. She whooped Charlotte for eight months, got her out of the rumble, and pretty much continued to defeat her at every turn. One win isn’t going to negate all of that. Plus her beating Sasha in 2016 (at the end of a 50/50 feud) was so she could then feud with Bayley (as had already been teased before Survivor Series) and then put her over, an important part of the context that gets ignored in all those ‘Charlotte buried Sasha’ narratives. the only person Charlotte has put over is Becky, and that was pretty much by " accident". There is nothingthat hints Charlotte will.She might? Yes but I wont watch a repetitive story , stale character, Charlotte beating everyone in the hopes one of then eventually gets put over. I learned my lesson ,Charlotte involvements always end with something good ruined or pushed back(SD! division is shaping up,boom, enters Charlotte and wins the title ,Becky is main eventing and expected to have an one o one contest,there is charlotte. Asuka beat becky clean and is the champion,there is Charlotte again). This is just me of course but her involvement pretty much stops me from buying PPVs. Not the only thing of course,but I would buy pretty much only for the womans divisions and she is constantly boring it up for me.I really wanted to give a chance because of Becky, but it really isnt worth in the end( the product as a whole)
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