Rebook the DCEU

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Hey, we love rebooking stuff in wrestling, why not apply it to the biggest surefire win franchise fumble this side of The Invasion.

Rebook the DCEU, you can go as far as you like and as in-depth as you like. You can get whatever high profile actor to play whatever role you want. But you have to realistically come up with a movie that makes $1 billion dollars in your first major crossover, that was the goal that BvS failed to achieve.

I'll put out my timeline up through the first Justice League movie after I've had a chance to put it down on paper as well.

[OGBoardPoster2005]

In "Man of Steel", Papa Kent is a loving, wholesome Father in a Kevin Costner esqe role where he teaches his son love, compassion, and strength while encouraging his goals. Kal-El, while understanding what Clark wants, tries to get Clark to stay low to avoid Zod and his wrath. At the end of the film, Kal-El realizes the error of his ways and serves as guidance for Clark.

In "The Bat-Man", Bruce Wayne is a loner outside of his business and keeping up appearances where he has unfulfilling relationships. By night he is Batman, a vigilante fighting alongside his butler Alfred who serves as his partner from afar along the way. Bruce discovers a mob/political connection that he infiltrates by night. In the end he solves the case, earning trust from the Gotham P.D. Commissioner Gordon. In a post-credits scene, Bruce heads to Metropolis, where he witnesses the Superman/Zod fight.

Do a Man of Steel 2 and then Batman vs Superman without Wonder Woman or Jesse Eisenberg. f***ing boom.

[Clutchhausen]

I just want the damn Snyder cut.

[Cyno]

Do Man of Steel with 100% less Snyder tropes. Have a Batman movie with Affleck to establish his take on the character. BvS doesn't exist. Keep the Wonder Woman movie as is. Flash and Teen Titans get their own solo movies before JL comes out, with Teen Titans being led by Nightwing who was originally introduced as Robin in the Affleck Batman movie. Throughout all the movies, you subtly build up the threat of the JL movie's big bad. Then shit hits the fan and Justice League movie happens.

[The Spelunker!]

Alright, so I’m gonna try something weird.

Make a big budget disaster movie with a bunch of big names actors, just your casual summer blockbuster. Have the day be saved at the end by Superman. Don’t advertise it at all, just count on word of mouth.

Repeat this formula a couple times throughout the year, with different genres of movies, and different heroes being unveiled to stop the problem. So like an oceans eleven style heist film, where the thieves almost get away with it until Batman and Green Arrow stops them. A runaway train movie where The Flash ends up getting everyone out right before the crash. A submarine thriller where Aquaman saves the day. A manned mission to Mars where Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern show up. An archeological dog horror film where the monster is beat back by Wonder Woman. All the while, you tease these odd events being connected by some mastermind.

You then do a film of Luthor. Luthor, realizing he needs help, recruits a bunch of bad guys, gets off a successful mission, soundly defeating Green Arrow, the one hero who happened to be there. With Arrow’s last moment of consciousness, he fires an arrow up into the air. The villains look on like he missed, but the arrow is some kind of signal to the heroes. Movie end as Arrow watches the villains succeed.

Queue Justice League movie, heroes show up, have huge battle with bad guys. Rake in money.

I think the super soft push of a year of Guerilla Marketing could generate a ton of hype. It’d be a huge investment. But with bankable actors in the host films and capable directors you’re not gambling too much. And after the first film or two, you’re likely selling tickets based on the possibility of what might be contained within each random film Warner puts out.

So in short:

2020:
4-6 seemingly random standard films with surprise superheroes all with Luthor’s coordination being felt.

2021:
Luthor Movie
Justice League

[salz4life]

Most people seemed to be disappointed in Steppenwolf as the big bad in JL.... who should've been the big bad? I'm not as familiar with DC as I am Marvel (and even that is really MCU only)

[The Spelunker!]

May 6, 2019 12:55:51 GMT -5 salz4life said:

Most people seemed to be disappointed in Steppenwolf as the big bad in JL.... who should've been the big bad? I'm not as familiar with DC as I am Marvel (and even that is really MCU only)

Darkseid himself. Problem with the New Gods is it’s pretty much just Darkseid in terms of bad guys with name recognition.

Although the plot could’ve been rearranged to someone like Despero, Sinestro, or Brainiac and people wouldn’t have been mad.

[Cyno]

I think instead of a singular big bad, you could also do a team up of smaller bads, like Joker, Reverse Flash, Luthor, etc. as an evil counterpart to the Justice League, like the Secret Society or the Legion of Doom. I'd say Injustice League, but the name is a bit too on the nose.

[A Platypus Rave]

Man of steel... first and foremost. Pa Kent does not tell Clark that he should MAYBE let people die.

that question is answered with "of course not, but people may not accept you" or something.

I'd cut Zod out of the movie, he's a terrible first villain for Superman. His entire Schtick is "we are lucky Superman is a good decent guy instead of wanting to rule like this guy" if we MUST have him...

don't destroy the nature vs. nurture plot point of your movie by having Kal-El beat the shit out of the super soldier in the first 10 minutes.

edit Zod's entire stupid plan because despite being "a strategic genius" He constantly goes out of his way to ruin his own plan...

Don't throw Chekhov's Gun out the window immediately with Clark being used to the powers and he wasn't.

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I'd probably either do someone simple like Parasite, which sets up STAR Labs and potentially LexCorp.

Maybe do Steppenwolf here, since Superman kicked his ass with no powers and a broken leg before... so start setting up Darkseid here for the JL movie.

Or do the Animated Series with Braniac being the computer in charge of Krypton... you could still do the taking over the communications satellite thing because that's a Braniac move not Zod.

Have Braniac angry that all of Krypton was not destroyed so there is more knowledge to be had... so going to Earth to demand the Kryptonian to correct the issue.


Then maybe do Batman V. Superman... but DONT BASE IT ON DARK KNIGHT RETURNS... there is WAY too much information needed for DKR to work and make any kind of sense as the second movie.

This way Batman has been active for a few years doing his thing... then after the Alien Invasion (of Zod or Braniac) he's hesitant on Superman... Bruce goes to Metropolis because he needs to for a business deal with Luthor (not played like whatever the hell Snyder was going for) or Clark goes to Gotham for some press conference (maybe for a Lex/Wayne) joint venture.

Either way minor disagreement between the two... and then it turns out Lex is up to something with Joker, or Penguin... or any of Batman's villains that need little introduction... the partnership based on wanting something in STAR Labs, in there they can find things like Kryptonite, Amazonian and Atlantian artifacts, as well as let's say the Motherbox or something else hinting at Apokolips.

Wonder Woman as it was.

then go into Justice League with the pillars in place. Flash, Aquaman, and someone else (kinda don't want to go right to the Green Lanterns here that kinda needs more setup than Flash and Aquaman's origins of science accident and Atlantean) get introduced her for future movies. They go after an actual threat... and not a stooge like Steppenwolf... maybe Mongul and War World... if you don't want to jump right into Darkseid.

Otherwise do all teh other movies first... and have post credit scenes of the Villains getting a letter... with the final movie having Lex welcome them to their Secret Society setting up for the JL.

[Dub H]

World start with:Superman: Skip the origin story, we dont need it.Dont start with an obvious villain like Luthor(but have him be part of the story).

My plot,at least the basic,would involve Luthor starting to have deals to buy Kryptonite(With the excuse of using it as clean energy source for his company).And you can have Metallo trying to steal it.Have him succed,battle insues,Luthor is legally the owner of the kryptonite and recovers it.

So you setup Luthor having the Kryptonite source for the future and his big plan.

Then in Batman you can show that politically things are getting worse,have him face the Suicide Squad which is goverment sanctioned,trying to stop a war between criminals.

Have a solo flash movie,bring him up,have him face gorilla grodd,doesnt need to set up much.

I don't feel confident changing much of Wonder Woman,it can work like that,and you can still keep the same story and reasoning.

Then for the big crossover and justice league you can have the Lex Luthor president plot,with the suicide squad being made public(probably from luthor stealing info from batman or the gov),he is able to get the public behind him for the election.


Of course this is the plan of someone that isnt writer and under 20 minutes

[A Platypus Rave]

Oh... if we have to do Suicide Squad... first off... no Joker. He's not needed nor does he have anything to do with the Squad.

Second off... they aren't fighting the Enchantress or being put together "in case Superman goes bad" because that's not what they do... they aren't people that save the world from massive global threats... that's the Justice Leagues domain.

I'd have them "hired" due to like Queen Bee causing problems Kahndaq... (that would be the non Alien Queen Bee) they do their deed... and maybe they setup the return of Black Adam for a future Shazam movie... like Harley knocks something over with her mallet during the final fight and as they get on the plane back you see a massive lightning storm brewing behind them.

[Push R Truth]

Superman's colors are bright and not washed out. And he's a naive boy-scout. I'd like to see Man of Steel have the Kyrptonians spend the majority of the film with Superman thinking they are the good Guys because "they are just like him!". The movie would be more like a "welcome to a larger world" story with Superman finally getting an opponent that he can't just destroy in 1 punch.

[Hit Girl]

May 6, 2019 12:54:56 GMT -5 The Spelunker! said:

Alright, so I’m gonna try something weird.

Make a big budget disaster movie with a bunch of big names actors, just your casual summer blockbuster. Have the day be saved at the end by Superman. Don’t advertise it at all, just count on word of mouth.

Repeat this formula a couple times throughout the year, with different genres of movies, and different heroes being unveiled to stop the problem. So like an oceans eleven style heist film, where the thieves almost get away with it until Batman and Green Arrow stops them. A runaway train movie where The Flash ends up getting everyone out right before the crash. A submarine thriller where Aquaman saves the day. A manned mission to Mars where Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern show up. An archeological dog horror film where the monster is beat back by Wonder Woman. All the while, you tease these odd events being connected by some mastermind.

You then do a film of Luthor. Luthor, realizing he needs help, recruits a bunch of bad guys, gets off a successful mission, soundly defeating Green Arrow, the one hero who happened to be there. With Arrow’s last moment of consciousness, he fires an arrow up into the air. The villains look on like he missed, but the arrow is some kind of signal to the heroes. Movie end as Arrow watches the villains succeed.

Queue Justice League movie, heroes show up, have huge battle with bad guys. Rake in money.

I think the super soft push of a year of Guerilla Marketing could generate a ton of hype. It’d be a huge investment. But with bankable actors in the host films and capable directors you’re not gambling too much. And after the first film or two, you’re likely selling tickets based on the possibility of what might be contained within each random film Warner puts out.

So in short:

2020:
4-6 seemingly random standard films with surprise superheroes all with Luthor’s coordination being felt.

2021:
Luthor Movie
Justice League

This I like.

[Limity (BLM)]

May 6, 2019 12:54:56 GMT -5 The Spelunker! said:

Alright, so I’m gonna try something weird.

Make a big budget disaster movie with a bunch of big names actors, just your casual summer blockbuster. Have the day be saved at the end by Superman. Don’t advertise it at all, just count on word of mouth.

Repeat this formula a couple times throughout the year, with different genres of movies, and different heroes being unveiled to stop the problem. So like an oceans eleven style heist film, where the thieves almost get away with it until Batman and Green Arrow stops them. A runaway train movie where The Flash ends up getting everyone out right before the crash. A submarine thriller where Aquaman saves the day. A manned mission to Mars where Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern show up. An archeological dog horror film where the monster is beat back by Wonder Woman. All the while, you tease these odd events being connected by some mastermind.

You then do a film of Luthor. Luthor, realizing he needs help, recruits a bunch of bad guys, gets off a successful mission, soundly defeating Green Arrow, the one hero who happened to be there. With Arrow’s last moment of consciousness, he fires an arrow up into the air. The villains look on like he missed, but the arrow is some kind of signal to the heroes. Movie end as Arrow watches the villains succeed.

Queue Justice League movie, heroes show up, have huge battle with bad guys. Rake in money.

I think the super soft push of a year of Guerilla Marketing could generate a ton of hype. It’d be a huge investment. But with bankable actors in the host films and capable directors you’re not gambling too much. And after the first film or two, you’re likely selling tickets based on the possibility of what might be contained within each random film Warner puts out.

So in short:

2020:
4-6 seemingly random standard films with surprise superheroes all with Luthor’s coordination being felt.

2021:
Luthor Movie
Justice League

This is a really interesting out of the box idea. I can't let it go unnoticed.

As to how I would do it, the only thing off the top of my head I can think of, would be to have the big bad guy at the end be...Batman vs Superman.

We've all remarked time and again how they rushed that confrontation with BvS. Along with rushing everything else. And instead of building up to Darkseid, which would inevitably look like a Thanos wannabe by virtue of Marvel doing it first, build up to Batman fighting Superman. Spend ten years with these characters, let us grow attached to them, let us pick our sides, and let that be the endgame.

[xCompackx]

Step 1: Do not hire Zack Snyder or anyone claiming "dark and brooding" is the way to go.

Step 2: Make Man of Steel a colorful, hopeful start to the series instead of a bland, washed out, depressing slog that's meant to showcase your top hero.

Step 3: Ignore Zack Snyder's calls, texts, Facebook posts, and Myspace messages.

Step 4: Keep making good movies with decent plots that also build towards your finale mash-up film.

That's how I'd do it.

[Perpetual Nirvana]

The thing I can't wrap my head around is how can you do Batman v Superman without both guys being wildly out of character? The Dark Knight Returns had context for it but even the Supes was mildly OOC, Injustice has the massive trigger of Joker killing Lois and Superman's unborn child. The only thing I can think of is when Superman got mind controlled by Darkseid.

[A Platypus Rave]

May 6, 2019 16:04:18 GMT -5 Perpetual Nirvana said:

The thing I can't wrap my head around is how can you do Batman v Superman without both guys being wildly out of character? The Dark Knight Returns had context for it but even the Supes was mildly OOC, Injustice has the massive trigger of Joker killing Lois and Superman's unborn child. The only thing I can think of is when Superman got mind controlled by Darkseid.

do some of the World's finest Animated Movie stuff... they don't ever really fight in it.

Besides being OOC for supes in DKR... Supes also wasn't really fighting Batman.

Batman was fighting him Superman was basically trying to talk to him... they still made it abundantly clear if Batman and Superman were in a straight up fight... Superman would murder him.

[adamclark52]

Let it breath and develop for a few years (like Marvel did) then start the big payoffs (like Marvel did)

[A Platypus Rave]

Also this should be somewhere in the writers room.

"DON'T RUSH TO THE PAYOFF"

Earn the payoff don't just have it happen.

[Starshine]

Man of Steel - Make it a more inspirational story, which ends with Supes sparing Zod and imprisoning him in wither Phantom Zone, or some sort of Mother Box thingy. Giving them the possibility that he can be possibly brought back for a future film.

Instead of Batman vs. Superman right away, do a straight up Batman flick. We don't need an origin story at this point, so just make it a standalone adventure. It can be darker than Supes which fits the characters theme. Make the villain someone like Man-Bat or Mister Freeze. Someone who doesn't really have a good movie adaptation already out there. Tease Batman vs. Superman coming out of it.

Then do Wonder Woman - Basically the same movie.

Suicide Squad - Personally I didn't have much of a problem with this one, but I also know a lot of fans didn't like it. I don't know the solution. But I just need it somewhere here to introduce the Squad and Amanda Waller and the Squad.

Batman vs. Superman - The idea is good. The story wasn't. Have Amanda Waller blackmail Batman into dealing with Superman, since he's a element she can't control. You can also have a version of the Suicide Squad involved playing sort of a foil to the two warring heroes. Wonder Woman arrives with some knowledge of a bigger threat, and Zod reappears as an agent of Darkseid. Typical cahotic battle between all parties takes place and Zod is killed by maybe Waller. But not before promising that the threat of Darkseid is coming. Waller calls of her hit on Superman due to the new threat, and the three heroes agree to unify their powers to protect the earth from whatever comes.

Then their phase 2 introduces Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg all leading the big Justice League movie.