TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jul 30, 2019 15:48:57 GMT -5
Specifically the Luke vs Vader/Emperor tune and oddly I was thinking wheres the Nooo from Vader and realized I wasn't watching the movie. I guess I accept it being in and it doesn't bother/annoy me so much anymore.
Anywhoo.... I never realized this but they way its shot It can't just be me (because it never is) When Vader picks up the emperor does it not look like he is picking him up with both hands when he got his right hand cut off even 3 min ago?
Has he impaled the emperor with his right hand and if balancing him with his good hand? Does his right hand have a stun/paralyze attack because The Emperor just lays flat while Vader is carrying him. He's got him in a reverse military press and it really does look like they forgot Vader only has one hand at this point.
IF nothing else enjoy the vid I guess.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jul 30, 2019 16:08:40 GMT -5
That “no” from Vader is one of the worst changes ever made to the OT. More than anything else, it has kept me from buying the blu-rays.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 30, 2019 16:22:04 GMT -5
That “no” from Vader is one of the worst changes ever made to the OT. More than anything else, it has kept me from buying the blu-rays. The important thing is that you're not spoiled for choice when it comes to determining the stupidest change. I think Han not shooting first is the worst, and I know that's an older change but they also alter it with every release so I'll bitch about it here too Dumbest though is adding rocks in front of R2-D2 for no reason in front of A New Hope, so the opening he is hiding in now appears smaller than him. Or making Jabba's door bigger. f***ing why? |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 30, 2019 18:16:01 GMT -5
That “no” from Vader is one of the worst changes ever made to the OT. More than anything else, it has kept me from buying the blu-rays. The important thing is that you're not spoiled for choice when it comes to determining the stupidest change. I think Han not shooting first is the worst, and I know that's an older change but they also alter it with every release so I'll bitch about it here too Dumbest though is adding rocks in front of R2-D2 for no reason in front of A New Hope, so the opening he is hiding in now appears smaller than him. Or making Jabba's door bigger. f***ing why? Those last two really were changes made for the sake of changes without thinking about the logistics of what they were doing. Sure, making the door of Jabba's palace huge makes it look more imposing, but causes a huge continuity error when Luke goes inside into a regular-sized room/corridor rather than a massive hanger. |
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jul 30, 2019 18:47:10 GMT -5
only done because of the word in revenge of the sith
and it's AWFUL
not just it completely RUINS the whole scene but it's completely LIFELESS TOO!
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jul 30, 2019 20:27:39 GMT -5
I just want the original trilogy in its original theatrical form on Blu Ray. I’ll have nothing to complain about after that. Then I can watch the trilogy the way I want it and the way it was originally presented.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 6:57:20 GMT -5
OMG, the special editions of ANH and Empire aren't too bad, but the Jedi special edition is the biggest butchery of a film I've ever seen.
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Post by Jiren on Jul 31, 2019 9:13:41 GMT -5
OMG, the special editions of ANH and Empire aren't too bad, but the Jedi special edition is the biggest butchery of a film I've ever seen. True, Which is why I only watch the Fan edit of Jedi. but I'd still watch Lucas' butchered version over any of the garbage Disney has given us so far. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 31, 2019 9:43:02 GMT -5
OMG, the special editions of ANH and Empire aren't too bad, but the Jedi special edition is the biggest butchery of a film I've ever seen. True, Which is why I only watch the Fan edit of Jedi. but I'd still watch Lucas' butchered version over any of the garbage Disney has given us so far. Ain't that the truth. |
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 31, 2019 19:00:27 GMT -5
I haven’t even seen the version with this “no”, and damn I’m glad I haven’t. Is it the same one with the blinking Ewoks?
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TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jul 31, 2019 22:27:41 GMT -5
I just want the original trilogy in its original theatrical form on Blu Ray. I’ll have nothing to complain about after that. Then I can watch the trilogy the way I want it and the way it was originally presented. I also was never a fan of the new celebration theme s after Vader is set ablaze.. Original Ewok celebration is the only one I acknowledge not the one where they don’t go to the other planets |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 31, 2019 22:31:58 GMT -5
That “no” from Vader is one of the worst changes ever made to the OT. More than anything else, it has kept me from buying the blu-rays. The worst change to me is the weird ass noise they had Obi Wan make when rushing to save Luke from the Tuskan Raiders. Han shooting second never bothered me... mainly as the rest of the scene is still Han blasting Greedo and getting up like it was nothing. (Well in theory the original Han head sliding was pretty bad...) |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jul 31, 2019 23:07:29 GMT -5
I just want the original trilogy in its original theatrical form on Blu Ray. I’ll have nothing to complain about after that. Then I can watch the trilogy the way I want it and the way it was originally presented. I also was never a fan of the new celebration theme s after Vader is set ablaze.. Original Ewok celebration is the only one I acknowledge not the one where they don’t go to the other planets Totally agree. The little changes to make everything feel joined together feel so forced, especially when so much of it is bad CGI. Yub nub or bust. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 1, 2019 0:09:19 GMT -5
I just want the original trilogy in its original theatrical form on Blu Ray. I’ll have nothing to complain about after that. Then I can watch the trilogy the way I want it and the way it was originally presented. I also was never a fan of the new celebration theme s after Vader is set ablaze.. Original Ewok celebration is the only one I acknowledge not the one where they don’t go to the other planets Personally, I think that's second only to the extensive changes to the Cloud City sets in terms of changes that are genuine improvements. Yub Nub felt way too kiddy to me even when I was a kid. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 1, 2019 8:28:01 GMT -5
I haven’t even seen the version with this “no”, and damn I’m glad I haven’t. Is it the same one with the blinking Ewoks? I forgot about that. Ugh. Yes. |
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Post by Doctor No on Aug 1, 2019 9:28:32 GMT -5
Jedi Rocks is the key to everything. The Prequels, the OT, the new Trilogy, everything. But we aren’t talking about essential additions/changes.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Aug 1, 2019 10:01:25 GMT -5
Adding the NOOOOOOO! ruined it. Some things don't need to be said to convey the emotions needed for the scene. It's like when Vince McMahon was screaming "THAT'S GOTTA BE KANE!!!" over and over... we get it, you don't have to explain it to us. Just lay out and let the scene play out.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Aug 1, 2019 19:34:23 GMT -5
Yeah, as bad as some of the other changes are, when I learned this was added to one of my favorite scenes in all of the trilogy and one of the best examples of "Show, Don't Tell" your story...I just had no words. It cemented for me that Lucas really didn't understand Star Wars or what he (and a bunch of other people) made with the original trilogy.
It's somehow even more damning to me when you consider the shot works in spite of Vader being masked thanks to the score, the way it's shot, the cuts, it conveys everything you need to know without putting some melodramatic cry in there. Some shots like this don't even work when the person's face is visible.
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TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Aug 1, 2019 21:59:03 GMT -5
OMG, the special editions of ANH and Empire aren't too bad, but the Jedi special edition is the biggest butchery of a film I've ever seen. True, Which is why I only watch the Fan edit of Jedi. but I'd still watch Lucas' butchered version over any of the garbage Disney has given us so far. Yup not even really interested in even watching the next one at all. |
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 3, 2019 13:32:54 GMT -5
My least favourite SE change was one which Lucas even changed his mind about, which was the awful addition of Luke screaming as he fell to the bottom of Cloud City.
Made even worse because it was Palpatines's death scream re-used.
Some SE bits I like, some not, but I couldn't stand that one both in idea and execution. Mercifully it was gone a few years later.
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