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Post by Fade on Aug 11, 2019 22:11:14 GMT -5
That was crazy. As soon as he pinned him I sorta went..”Well. There’s the endpoint. That’s what all this Brock ish had led to.”.
Great match, and Seth looked like a million bucks. Crowd loved him. Couldn’t of gone better, really.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Aug 11, 2019 22:14:08 GMT -5
It made no sense to have him get totally crushed by Brock in the build for this match if he was gonna win it. I get that someone has to beat Brock by why make Seth look like a total idiot for weeks and then beat Brock clean? I don’t get it. It’s the weirdest damn booking choice. Dude gets punked out for weeks, goes over clean against the biggest threat in the company when it actually matters. Compare that to someone like Braun who they built to be this pure, concentrated badass by making him do increasingly ridiculously badass spots and skits...and he gets punked out when it actually matters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:15:05 GMT -5
Funny thing, the Network died on me at the end so I didn't even see the pin, just reconnected in time to see Seth celebrating.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:16:08 GMT -5
It made no sense to have him get totally crushed by Brock in the build for this match if he was gonna win it. I get that someone has to beat Brock by why make Seth look like a total idiot for weeks and then beat Brock clean? I don’t get it. It’s the weirdest damn booking choice. Dude gets punked out for weeks, goes over clean against the biggest threat in the company when it actually matters. Compare that to someone like Braun who they built to be this pure, concentrated badass by making him do increasingly ridiculously badass spots and skits...and he gets punked out when it actually matters. And also he just showed he could survive being shot point blank by a tank and yet just a couple months ago he lost to a single End of Days.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 11, 2019 22:16:21 GMT -5
I can't stand Rollins right now, so him winning after basically getting his ass kicked and being left in a puddle for weeks on end doesn't really strike me as interesting or great build for a champion, even if he did look great in the match
Brock lost, whoopie, now we're back to Rollins also being shit with the belt, I just don't really see the good in this, but it's just my opinion. If he drops the belt quick I won't care as much, but god what a shit build this all was.
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Post by Perd on Aug 11, 2019 22:17:10 GMT -5
Loved that match. And I’m firmly in The anyone but Brock camp. I don’t care if he sticks around, I just don’t need to see him in the title picture.
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Post by PTBartman on Aug 11, 2019 22:20:56 GMT -5
...So why have Lesnar even win the belt back to begin with? I can agree with that. You absolutely didn’t need the briefcase involved for this whole thing. Have Brock come out and challenge Rollins, goes the exact same way. I liked the briefcase, because Seth used it the first time he beat Brock for a title. This was some of WWE's best long term storytelling in years. Same with referencing stupid, stupid, stupid in Kofi vs Orton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:21:14 GMT -5
Probably already been asked in here, but we're not going to see Brock again until SD's debut on FOX are we?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Aug 11, 2019 22:21:58 GMT -5
On the subject of Lesnar, I wouldn’t mind if they slowly phase him out and make him a special attraction opponent, like how Taker has been the last several years.
Just....no more belts for him, please?
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Post by eJm on Aug 11, 2019 22:22:03 GMT -5
I can agree with that. You absolutely didn’t need the briefcase involved for this whole thing. Have Brock come out and challenge Rollins, goes the exact same way. I liked the briefcase, because Seth used it the first time he beat Brock for a title. This was some of WWE's best long term storytelling in years. Same with referencing stupid, stupid, stupid in Kofi vs Orton. Just as a query, did they reference that on the show? Because from the hype package, it didn’t seem like they did. Because that might have invested me a bit more if they did.
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Post by PTBartman on Aug 11, 2019 22:26:26 GMT -5
I liked the briefcase, because Seth used it the first time he beat Brock for a title. This was some of WWE's best long term storytelling in years. Same with referencing stupid, stupid, stupid in Kofi vs Orton. Just as a query, did they reference that on the show? Because from the hype package, it didn’t seem like they did. Because that might have invested me a bit more if they did. I thi k Heyman pointed it out and Rollins admitted it, kind of live by and die by the sword. Orton referenced Stupid in a really good package. They even used video of that match and you can read his lips.
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Post by eJm on Aug 11, 2019 22:27:30 GMT -5
Just as a query, did they reference that on the show? Because from the hype package, it didn’t seem like they did. Because that might have invested me a bit more if they did. They never even brought it up IIRC. Not even Heyman saying, "Payback is a bitch Mr. Rollins" or something like that. Yeah, that felt like a real missed opportunity to spice things up. Even Brock wanting the case to prevent other people from having it to cash in on him would have made sense.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 11, 2019 22:27:36 GMT -5
On the subject of Lesnar, I wouldn’t mind if they slowly phase him out and make him a special attraction opponent, like how Taker has been the last several years. Just....no more belts for him, please? As I've said multiple times I have no problem with him as the optional dragon that appears occasionally and takes people to the limit... I do have a problem with him having a title and disappearing for months on end... especially because that is part of hte reason the WWE is in such dire straits with having no main event stars because Brock killed almost all of them and the rest have been so aimless without anything to fight for they were cut off by pointless feuds over nothing.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 11, 2019 22:34:18 GMT -5
On the subject of Lesnar, I wouldn’t mind if they slowly phase him out and make him a special attraction opponent, like how Taker has been the last several years. Just....no more belts for him, please? As I've said multiple times I have no problem with him as the optional dragon that appears occasionally and takes people to the limit... I do have a problem with him having a title and disappearing for months on end... especially because that is part of hte reason the WWE is in such dire straits with having no main event stars because Brock killed almost all of them and the rest have been so aimless without anything to fight for they were cut off by pointless feuds over nothing. And the fact that up until now, this is the first clean win over him in years He's not going to lose every time out because he shouldn't be Braun has def been hurt by the fact Brock has basically obliterated him at every step
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Aug 11, 2019 22:40:30 GMT -5
Lesnar should have been beaten clean more than JUST THIS ONCE other than against Goldberg. And Rollins inspires negative levels of confidence and that's not even getting into his stupid comments outside the ring.
I feel absolutely not a damn thing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 22:47:50 GMT -5
Tonight's win showed us that Lesnar can be beaten clean by uppercard guys without shenanigans and that's a big thing. People can dislike/be mad at Rollins, they can think he's crappy but the big thing about his win is less about him but more about where Lesnar stands. In the company this year we've seen things shift with Lesnar. Out of the few matches he's had he's never had one where he's been decisively dominating his opponent like years prior. He almost lost to Balor, lost to Rollins through shenanigans, won the MITB through shenanigans, beat Rollins through a cash-in and now he was beaten clean, that's huge. If there's one thing to pull out of this is that they've decided to take away the "Invincibility Aura" from Lesnar and we've needed that since he beat Taker at WM30.
Right now Lesnar can be that part-timer who can put up a good fight and depending on where they want he can put over guys or barely win. He's also putting more into his matches.
Just keep him away from the titles and we're good. Anything else is dope for him.
Probably already been asked in here, but we're not going to see Brock again until SD's debut on FOX are we? Yeah we're done with him for a while I guess.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 11, 2019 23:30:30 GMT -5
On the subject of Lesnar, I wouldn’t mind if they slowly phase him out and make him a special attraction opponent, like how Taker has been the last several years. Just....no more belts for him, please? Disagree, Brock Lesnar needs the 24/7 Championship.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 11, 2019 23:33:54 GMT -5
Tonight's win showed us that Lesnar can be beaten clean by uppercard guys without shenanigans and that's a big thing. People can dislike/be mad at Rollins, they can think he's crappy but the big thing about his win is less about him but more about where Lesnar stands. In the company this year we've seen things shift with Lesnar. Out of the few matches he's had he's never had one where he's been decisively dominating his opponent like years prior. He almost lost to Balor, lost to Rollins through shenanigans, won the MITB through shenanigans, beat Rollins through a cash-in and now he was beaten clean, that's huge. If there's one thing to pull out of this is that they've decided to take away the "Invincibility Aura" from Lesnar and we've needed that since he beat Taker at WM30.
Right now Lesnar can be that part-timer who can put up a good fight and depending on where they want he can put over guys or barely win. He's also putting more into his matches.
Just keep him away from the titles and we're good. Anything else is dope for him. Shit, can go back to Survivor Series with his match against DB that was really damn good with Brock basically having his best match since the year before with AJ His last true dominant wins were early part last year when he smoked Roman and Wrestlemania and beat Braun in Saudi
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 23:36:24 GMT -5
Tonight's win showed us that Lesnar can be beaten clean by uppercard guys without shenanigans and that's a big thing. People can dislike/be mad at Rollins, they can think he's crappy but the big thing about his win is less about him but more about where Lesnar stands. In the company this year we've seen things shift with Lesnar. Out of the few matches he's had he's never had one where he's been decisively dominating his opponent like years prior. He almost lost to Balor, lost to Rollins through shenanigans, won the MITB through shenanigans, beat Rollins through a cash-in and now he was beaten clean, that's huge. If there's one thing to pull out of this is that they've decided to take away the "Invincibility Aura" from Lesnar and we've needed that since he beat Taker at WM30.
Right now Lesnar can be that part-timer who can put up a good fight and depending on where they want he can put over guys or barely win. He's also putting more into his matches.
Just keep him away from the titles and we're good. Anything else is dope for him. Shit, can go back to Survivor Series with his match against DB that was really damn good with Brock basically having his best match since the year before with AJ His last true dominant wins were early part last year when he smoked Roman and Wrestlemania and beat Braun in Saudi Yeah that too. I'm glad things are changing with his character. I mean, if he's going to be used then use him in ways the fans like IE today.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 11, 2019 23:41:57 GMT -5
Shit, can go back to Survivor Series with his match against DB that was really damn good with Brock basically having his best match since the year before with AJ His last true dominant wins were early part last year when he smoked Roman and Wrestlemania and beat Braun in Saudi Yeah that too. I'm glad things are changing with his character. I mean, if he's going to be used then use him in ways the fans like IE today. The common denominator is Brock is working with guys smaller than him and he is busting his ass to make it work. It has been said that is his preference and you see why because he can sell and feed for them as opposed to working with guys his size where it is more a slugfest
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