FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 4, 2024 8:01:56 GMT -5
I saw a comment on Twitter that said The Matrix done by cis people is just sparkling cyberpunk.
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Post by thechase on Apr 4, 2024 8:24:05 GMT -5
I want a Grand Theft Auto Vice City-themed Matrix sequel
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Apr 4, 2024 13:42:31 GMT -5
The Matrix getting a fifth (or sixth if you count Animatrix) bite at the apple is baffling. A franchise that, in 25 years, has produced one good movie (or two, Animatrix mileage may vary) and then everything else was a straight dog turd. After Revolutions, we were done! It was over! Then they brought it back and it wasn't bad, but it also was not good. That should have been it, now we're gonna do it again? Boy, I can't wait to see Not Morpheus again. I loved the original three, (four counting Animatrix), and I completely agree with you. After Revolutions it was done, over.
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Phosphor Glow
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 4, 2024 15:46:17 GMT -5
I am actually ok with this. The Matrix films need a breath of fresh air by being by being done by somebody who isn't the Wachowskis. why? it's their story and it is a deeply personal story for them, i don't see any reason for another one to happen at all without their involvement even the Animatrix was heavily overseen by them
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Post by Cyno on Apr 4, 2024 16:04:46 GMT -5
I am actually ok with this. The Matrix films need a breath of fresh air by being by being done by somebody who isn't the Wachowskis. why? it's their story and it is a deeply personal story for them, i don't see any reason for another one to happen at all without their involvement even the Animatrix was heavily overseen by them And Lana is EP on this anyway. Just because someone else is directing doesn't mean she won't have any creative involvement.
Granted, everything Matrix outside of the original movie and the Animatrix has been pretty awful anyway no matter how directly the Wachowskis are involved.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 4, 2024 16:10:55 GMT -5
If the Wachowskis are on board then it's all good. Whatever anyone may think of the Matrix sequels, they're a labour of love for them and ploughing ahead with more without them just shouldn't be done, even if it could be, from a legal standpoint. If someone else is writing and directing, it'll be interesting to see what a new perspective can bring to the universe.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 4, 2024 16:14:00 GMT -5
I also just noticed that Lilly wasn't involved with Matrix 4, either. Just Lana.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 4, 2024 16:37:48 GMT -5
If the Wachowskis are on board then it's all good. Whatever anyone may think of the Matrix sequels, they're a labour of love for them and ploughing ahead with more without them just shouldn't be done, even if it could be, from a legal standpoint. If someone else is writing and directing, it'll be interesting to see what a new perspective can bring to the universe. Neither of them really had any inclination to make a fourth movie until Warner Bros. told them they were going to make one regardless of their involvement. I would not be surprised if Lana's executive producer credit in this one is little more than a token position.
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Post by Ryushinku on Apr 4, 2024 16:38:59 GMT -5
I kinda liked the theory that Matrix 4 was intended to stop further sequels, a bit of a middle finger to the studio for insisting on doing another one, and having several jibes about unnecessary follow-ups and reboots in the film itself.
That there IS possibly going to be another sequel sinks that rather.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Apr 4, 2024 16:46:34 GMT -5
I am actually ok with this. The Matrix films need a breath of fresh air by being by being done by somebody who isn't the Wachowskis. why? it's their story and it is a deeply personal story for them, i don't see any reason for another one to happen at all without their involvement even the Animatrix was heavily overseen by them You are absolutely correct it is their story. If they want to be the only ones to tell it, or if they want to be heavily involved in other's tellings, they aren't wrong for that. With that said, the quality of the last several films has been very questionable, and the basic thesis of the story is still very solid. With the seeming rise of AI, it's actually more relevant now than it was back then. It might be time for someone with new eyes and a fresh take to take a crack at it. See if they can deliver something more pleasing to audiences that still deals with the same themes.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Apr 4, 2024 16:52:56 GMT -5
I am actually ok with this. The Matrix films need a breath of fresh air by being by being done by somebody who isn't the Wachowskis. why? it's their story and it is a deeply personal story for them, i don't see any reason for another one to happen at all without their involvement even the Animatrix was heavily overseen by them Plenty of "deeply personal" creations have been handed off to people other than their creators with fantastic and faithful results. As much as I love Gene Rodenberry, he almost killed The Next Generation, and a lot of the best Trek otherwise wouldn't have been possible under him.
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Phosphor Glow
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 4, 2024 17:00:48 GMT -5
why? it's their story and it is a deeply personal story for them, i don't see any reason for another one to happen at all without their involvement even the Animatrix was heavily overseen by them Plenty of "deeply personal" creations have been handed off to people other than their creators with fantastic and faithful results. As much as I love Gene Rodenberry, he almost killed The Next Generation, and a lot of the best Trek otherwise wouldn't have been possible under him. why does it need to be franchised to hell and back? it's not Marvel, it could just be over and then someone can make their own cyberpunk movie with similar ideas, it's not like the core concept of the Matrix itself is uncommon in cyberpunk stories
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Apr 4, 2024 17:07:26 GMT -5
Plenty of "deeply personal" creations have been handed off to people other than their creators with fantastic and faithful results. As much as I love Gene Rodenberry, he almost killed The Next Generation, and a lot of the best Trek otherwise wouldn't have been possible under him. why does it need to be franchised to hell and back? it's not Marvel, it could just be over and then someone can make their own cyberpunk movie with similar ideas, it's not like the core concept of the Matrix itself is uncommon in cyberpunk stories Who is arguing that it needs to be? The studio that owns the rights is free to try, and we are free to not watch it, the same as happened to the last one.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 4, 2024 17:33:26 GMT -5
In fairness, if Lana is on board with the production, it’s probably not gonna be *that* foreign a vision of what they initially wanted the series to symbolize. Maybe some fresh input is what’s being asked for.
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Glitch
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Post by Glitch on Apr 5, 2024 7:01:20 GMT -5
I am actually ok with this. The Matrix films need a breath of fresh air by being by being done by somebody who isn't the Wachowskis. why? it's their story and it is a deeply personal story for them, i don't see any reason for another one to happen at all without their involvement even the Animatrix was heavily overseen by them Because The Matrix has a lot that can be explored. The Animatrix was overseen by them but the anime directors actually had a lot of creative freedom (half of the segments were written by them). The Wachowski sisters seem only interested in telling specific parts of the world they built. New directors could expand upon on that, with the Wachowskis supervising so it doesn't turn into a giant content onslaught like Marvel and Star Wars.
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mystermystery
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Post by mystermystery on Apr 6, 2024 9:42:57 GMT -5
Talk about calling your shot with the "If we don't do it, they'll do it anyway" reference in Matrix 4.
Content must flow for the streaming services. Content must be created so it may be debated so other content can be created so it can be consumed, digested, and replaced with a desire for more content.
How...contenting.
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