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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 9:28:09 GMT -5
Assuming Bayley retains on Sunday, would you be cool with a Bayley vs. Carmella feud? I'm surprised they haven't had the two interact yet, since they're real life best friends.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Sept 10, 2019 13:29:25 GMT -5
Why do wrestlers not use other wrestlers signature moves? Seems pretty logical if you want to win.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 10, 2019 13:52:27 GMT -5
Why do wrestlers not use other wrestlers signature moves? Seems pretty logical if you want to win. Yea like everyone should use the stunner
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 10, 2019 13:58:55 GMT -5
Why do wrestlers not use other wrestlers signature moves? Seems pretty logical if you want to win. Yea like everyone should use the stunner I like to think of it like an RPG. Different gear loadouts and character types give you buffs and debuffs for different moves. Steve Austin’s gear, combined with his advanced level (that shit never actually goes down for inactivity as long as the servers remain live) makes his Stunner a one-hit KO more often. Kevin Owens has only just adopted the Stunner, and combined with his own gear and comparatively lower level, makes it a move that’s rarely a one-hit KO.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 10, 2019 14:16:04 GMT -5
Anyone not like reawatching certain periods of wrestlers careers?
I rewatch Stone Cold all the time. But from 96- Dec 2001. Then I skip 2002. Rewatch start of 2003 when he was still active wrestler and then don't bother with GM or sherrif Austin.
I hate the nonsensical turn after Survivor Series 2001 when they just hit the reset button and suddenly he was a good guy. The inital heel turn was already a bad idea in the first place but really entertaining in retrospect (the turn at mania I would keep but the turn at invasion was even more nonsensical).
However face Austin from very late 2001 into June 2002 pretty much sucked and I never rewatch it other than the supermarket brawl, a flair match and a few what promos.
They tried to kind of dig up the Austin macmhon feud again but it was just, "eh guys we have been here already". Austin still got big pops but his matches with Jericho and Taker stunk in 2002, shitty feud with Scott Hall, God it all just sucked. I know he had a ton of personal problems with alcohol, injury pain, professionally falling down the card and the Debra stuff.
Anyway, I hate it.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 10, 2019 14:24:00 GMT -5
Anyone not like reawatching certain periods of wrestlers careers? I rewatch Stone Cold all the time. But from 96- Dec 2001. Then I skip 2002. Rewatch start of 2003 when he was still active wrestler and then don't bother with GM or sherrif Austin. I hate the nonsensical turn after Survivor Series 2001 when they just hit the reset button and suddenly he was a good guy. The inital heel turn was already a bad idea in the first place but really entertaining in retrospect (the turn at mania I would keep but the turn at invasion was even more nonsensical). However face Austin from very late 2001 into June 2002 pretty much sucked and I never rewatch it other than the supermarket brawl, a flair match and a few what promos. They tried to kind of dig up the Austin macmhon feud again but it was just, "eh guys we have been here already". Austin still got big pops but his matches with Jericho and Taker stunk in 2002, shitty feud with Scott Hall, God it all just sucked. I know he had a ton of personal problems with alcohol, injury pain, professionally falling down the card and the Debra stuff. Anyway, I hate it. That heel run is my favourite time for Austin creatively - I got into wrestling when he had been gone for a while, and it felt like it took months for him to become truly his old self again, and then he turned heel - I wasn't attached to him as a face, being too recent a fan and mainly seeing him feuding with Rikishi as a heel (my phone corrected that to 'geek' which is apropos), so my main nostalgia is attached to funny, cowardly, vain, paranoid heel Austin. The run after they hit the reset button is exhausting to get through. You can just see he has basically nothing left, and even the Bischoff match I can't get behind because it wasn't a match really. I watched it all not long after getting the Network, and it is just depressing to watch. The Rock match at X9 is very good, but I have realised I tend to remember it as being way better than it is. Austin was never really the same after 99, except maybe a few months at the start of 2001.
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Post by Shark on Sept 10, 2019 14:30:50 GMT -5
Why do wrestlers not use other wrestlers signature moves? Seems pretty logical if you want to win. I've always thought if it as you may see how a guy does a move, but the reason it's effective for that guy is he knows how to apply it just the right way. That little tweak that you yourself don't know about.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 10, 2019 14:36:21 GMT -5
Anyone not like reawatching certain periods of wrestlers careers? I rewatch Stone Cold all the time. But from 96- Dec 2001. Then I skip 2002. Rewatch start of 2003 when he was still active wrestler and then don't bother with GM or sherrif Austin. I hate the nonsensical turn after Survivor Series 2001 when they just hit the reset button and suddenly he was a good guy. The inital heel turn was already a bad idea in the first place but really entertaining in retrospect (the turn at mania I would keep but the turn at invasion was even more nonsensical). However face Austin from very late 2001 into June 2002 pretty much sucked and I never rewatch it other than the supermarket brawl, a flair match and a few what promos. They tried to kind of dig up the Austin macmhon feud again but it was just, "eh guys we have been here already". Austin still got big pops but his matches with Jericho and Taker stunk in 2002, shitty feud with Scott Hall, God it all just sucked. I know he had a ton of personal problems with alcohol, injury pain, professionally falling down the card and the Debra stuff. Anyway, I hate it. That heel run is my favourite time for Austin creatively - I got into wrestling when he had been gone for a while, and it felt like it took months for him to become truly his old self again, and then he turned heel - I wasn't attached to him as a face, being too recent a fan and mainly seeing him feuding with Rikishi as a heel (my phone corrected that to 'geek' which is apropos), so my main nostalgia is attached to funny, cowardly, vain, paranoid heel Austin. The run after they hit the reset button is exhausting to get through. You can just see he has basically nothing left, and even the Bischoff match I can't get behind because it wasn't a match really. I watched it all not long after getting the Network, and it is just depressing to watch. The Rock match at X9 is very good, but I have realised I tend to remember it as being way better than it is. Austin was never really the same after 99, except maybe a few months at the start of 2001. When he first came back in 2000, it took a little while for him to get going properly but I enjoyed it a lot to be honest. Loved the intense feud with triple H, the six man cell match and his raw matches with angle and Benoit etc. Plus the badass new music. He ruled in 2001 from the get go. I loved him as a face up until mania that year. Legendary three stages match with HHH, and a great rumble performance. At the time I was DEVASTATED by the heel turn and stopped watching, and couldn't handle Austin being booed. I was fourteen though. In retrospect I missed out on the best ring work he ever did and some hilarious character development. I actually justify to myself that the heel turn wasn't silly and that him suddenly begging off and being a ridiculous, cowardly, paranoid, snapped Buffoon was because in kayfabe he had a mental breakdown around the time of losing to triple H at no way out. In kayfabe he realised he had lost a step but was so obsessed with getting the strap again that he would align with Vince to get it. However the issue with him turning face again after that and then acting like it never happened always sits weird with me
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Post by schma on Sept 10, 2019 14:37:43 GMT -5
Anyone not like reawatching certain periods of wrestlers careers? I rewatch Stone Cold all the time. But from 96- Dec 2001. Then I skip 2002. Rewatch start of 2003 when he was still active wrestler and then don't bother with GM or sherrif Austin. I hate the nonsensical turn after Survivor Series 2001 when they just hit the reset button and suddenly he was a good guy. The inital heel turn was already a bad idea in the first place but really entertaining in retrospect (the turn at mania I would keep but the turn at invasion was even more nonsensical). However face Austin from very late 2001 into June 2002 pretty much sucked and I never rewatch it other than the supermarket brawl, a flair match and a few what promos. They tried to kind of dig up the Austin macmhon feud again but it was just, "eh guys we have been here already". Austin still got big pops but his matches with Jericho and Taker stunk in 2002, shitty feud with Scott Hall, God it all just sucked. I know he had a ton of personal problems with alcohol, injury pain, professionally falling down the card and the Debra stuff. Anyway, I hate it. His run as the leader of the Alliance soured me on him big time. It might be interesting to go back and watch it now and see. Part of my anger was the burial of the rest of the faction as I had been a fan of both WCW and WWE guys and hated to seem them buried so hard.
However, I don't remember if it was Sheriff Austin or around then but there was a point where he became a complete dick. He'd been a heel before but this was when he was doing things like giving Stacy Keibler a stunner for no reason. That period of Austin I found completely terrible and wanted him off my tv. He wasn't an effective heel, he was just a dick who had stopped being entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 11:06:22 GMT -5
What'd Mandy Rose say when somebody told her they were better than her at EWR? {Spoiler}"YOU WILL NEVER BOOK LIKE ME!"
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 11, 2019 11:12:49 GMT -5
Which is better... Being booked every week but being booked badly affecting your credibility, or not being booked at all but not having that credibility touched as a result? Thought of this because we’ve been comparing Lacey Evans with Kairi Sane again.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 11, 2019 11:39:19 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels was rumoured to have been considered as The Higher Power. I wonder how it would have played out if Shane had announced "The Higher Power is Hot. The Higher Power is Spicy. The Higher Power tastes Great! KONNICHIWA!"
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 11, 2019 11:55:29 GMT -5
Which is better... Being booked every week but being booked badly affecting your credibility, or not being booked at all but not having that credibility touched as a result? Thought of this because we’ve been comparing Lacey Evans with Kairi Sane again. I guess being booked badly, because it can garner sympathy, and in the case of Moxley, it helped his buzz outside of WWE. Not being booked at all can lead to fans who aren't online much asking wrestlers if they're retired, which can feel humiliating, because they're not able to get their name out in the public and gain even more fans or merchandise sales.
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Post by schma on Sept 11, 2019 13:58:42 GMT -5
If WWE had an injury newsletter for their workers (similar to our papa shango list) would that be good for morale or bad? On one hand if they get a lot of injuries that list could be daunting. On the other hand it might avoid situations like Luke Harper asking when he was going to be healthy when he'd been good to go for two months.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 11, 2019 14:13:51 GMT -5
Lesnar has the best resume possibly in WWE history-
Undertaker (multiple times)
John Cena
HHH
Punk (with help from heyman)
Goldberg (past prime)
Hogan (past prime)
Flair (past prime)
Rock
Randy Orton
Big Show
Angle
Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose
Seth Rollins (pinned him in a triple threat and won at battleground though via DQ when taker interrupted)
Kane (triple threat)
AJ Styles
Finn Balor
That is a ridiculous resume.
Who else in 02/04 is notable? Did he beat Benoit and Eddie?
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Sept 11, 2019 14:17:00 GMT -5
I really hope they’re not ending Dio Maddin’s wrestling with his move to 205Live commentary. He was one of the main guys (Along with Dexter Lumis) I was looking forward to getting time when NXT goes to TV.
I’ve never seen an actual match of his, but he does some cool moves going by his IG.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 15:19:55 GMT -5
Damandyz Donuts with Big E!
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 11, 2019 17:52:46 GMT -5
Lesnar has the best resume possibly in WWE history- Undertaker (multiple times) John Cena HHH Punk (with help from heyman) Goldberg (past prime) Hogan (past prime) Flair (past prime) Rock Randy Orton Big Show Angle Roman Reigns Braun Strowman Samoa Joe Dean Ambrose Seth Rollins (pinned him in a triple threat and won at battleground though via DQ when taker interrupted) Kane (triple threat) AJ Styles Finn Balor That is a ridiculous resume. Who else in 02/04 is notable? Did he beat Benoit and Eddie? Did he wrestle Eddie at all other than dropping the belt to him?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 11, 2019 18:04:51 GMT -5
Anyone not like reawatching certain periods of wrestlers careers? I rewatch Stone Cold all the time. But from 96- Dec 2001. Then I skip 2002. Rewatch start of 2003 when he was still active wrestler and then don't bother with GM or sherrif Austin. I hate the nonsensical turn after Survivor Series 2001 when they just hit the reset button and suddenly he was a good guy. The inital heel turn was already a bad idea in the first place but really entertaining in retrospect (the turn at mania I would keep but the turn at invasion was even more nonsensical). However face Austin from very late 2001 into June 2002 pretty much sucked and I never rewatch it other than the supermarket brawl, a flair match and a few what promos. They tried to kind of dig up the Austin macmhon feud again but it was just, "eh guys we have been here already". Austin still got big pops but his matches with Jericho and Taker stunk in 2002, shitty feud with Scott Hall, God it all just sucked. I know he had a ton of personal problems with alcohol, injury pain, professionally falling down the card and the Debra stuff. Anyway, I hate it. To spin off this slightly... I was never much of a Stone Cold fan. I liked him, but I was watching those shows for Angle, Jericho, E&C. But as far as WWF was ever concerned Austin drew the buy. He didn’t, for me.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 11, 2019 18:06:33 GMT -5
Lesnar has the best resume possibly in WWE history- Undertaker (multiple times) John Cena HHH Punk (with help from heyman) Goldberg (past prime) Hogan (past prime) Flair (past prime) Rock Randy Orton Big Show Angle Roman Reigns Braun Strowman Samoa Joe Dean Ambrose Seth Rollins (pinned him in a triple threat and won at battleground though via DQ when taker interrupted) Kane (triple threat) AJ Styles Finn Balor That is a ridiculous resume. Who else in 02/04 is notable? Did he beat Benoit and Eddie? Did he wrestle Eddie at all other than dropping the belt to him? I'm not sure
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