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Post by theironyuppie on Sept 17, 2019 3:02:50 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong the sign of a great champion is someone who can elevate people. That said, I missed some of the back and forth on elevating but I was thinking, that it's not quite fair to compare Becky to Michaels, Styles and Bryan for a couple reasons. One of the things is that when those guys ended a feud with someone, that person had something else to go on to, whether another title or feud. Meanwhile Becky's has Lacey disappear for a few weeks after their feud ended with next to no follow up. Asuka beat Becky clean for the title in what should have been the biggest win of her life (She beat someone who was one of the most over stars on the roster and who won the main event of Wrestlemania. That they didn't follow up on this is asinine but anyways). The biggest win of her career was followed up with being taken off tv and not mentioned until she needed to pass the belt to Charlotte. Can we really blame Becky for not elevating her there? Even Natalya had her minifeud with Sasha after but it basically consisted of Sasha beating her ass down over and over for a few weeks. Now where is Nattie? That's essentially the issue, it's damn near impossible to elevate someone in the women's division right now because unless you're in a title picture you're off tv. Whatever happened to Ember Moon after her title match? Charlotte elevated the hell out of Becky but that seems to be the exception here and most of this issue falls on the shoulders of booking/creative and the old man at the top. That said, as much as Bryan elevated Kofi, part of that was the context of Kofi's career. If they'd done the same thing with Ali it might have worked but I don't think it would have had near the impact that it had with Kofi. This is not a knock on Bryan either. He's awesome and most definitely did his part and then some. It's similar to when Charlotte elevated Becky. A big part of what made that program so hot and brought them up was the context of their relationships and their previous bookings. If it had been say Naomi or even Bayley in Becky's spot for that feud, I don't think it would have had near as much heat to it. So I take the point but in the current situation for the women's division, it's really tough to elevate someone when they just ghost right after the feud (not by choice). True, and I think it goes the other way too. It helped Becky a lot that fans perceived Charlotte as ‘Female Roman’ and got paranoid that Becky was going to get ‘buried’ when she ended up being booked so dominantly. Add their ring/mic chemistry and they were the perfect opponents for each other.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Sept 17, 2019 8:17:44 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 17, 2019 12:23:34 GMT -5
She actually does a pretty good stunner
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Post by Dub H on Sept 17, 2019 12:29:07 GMT -5
She actually does a pretty good stunner I think the fact she sells how "strong" it is afterward helps. Owens for example just..does it.No flair or style.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 17, 2019 12:32:52 GMT -5
She actually does a pretty good stunner I think the fact she sells how "strong" it is afterward helps. Owens for example just..does it.No flair or style. Yea, she goes flat on her ass and holds the stunner all the way through It does help that Austin knows how to sell his own move but if she ever picked that up I wouldn't mind it. She jumps into it which helps make it look good
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Sept 17, 2019 12:33:23 GMT -5
She actually does a pretty good stunner she really does... I LOVE Steve giving her the Rocky spit-take sell too
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 17, 2019 12:36:20 GMT -5
She actually does a pretty good stunner she really does... I LOVE Steve giving her the Rocky spit-take sell too He damn sure knows how to sell his own move to full effect She should really start using that as a move if anything.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Sept 17, 2019 12:39:49 GMT -5
she really does... I LOVE Steve giving her the Rocky spit-take sell too He damn sure knows how to sell his own move to full effect She should really start using that as a move if anything. I'd like to revist the "who sold the stunner better" thread and add him to the discussion if I'm being honest haha...
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Post by Dub H on Sept 17, 2019 12:46:04 GMT -5
He damn sure knows how to sell his own move to full effect She should really start using that as a move if anything. I'd like to revist the "who sold the stunner better" thread and add him to the discussion if I'm being honest haha... Yeh he sells just the righ amount,a good bump but not crazy flying.
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Post by theironyuppie on Sept 24, 2019 20:12:12 GMT -5
I’m unsure why tonight had to have Becky beating Sasha/Bayley up 2-on-1.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 24, 2019 20:38:24 GMT -5
Holy hell this is a million times better than the shitty stunner Owens does.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 24, 2019 21:15:12 GMT -5
I’m unsure why tonight had to have Becky beating Sasha/Bayley up 2-on-1. Look at this shit, I didn't even watch SD I'm glad someone is keeping this updated because if I did watch Live I would have been on this thread as soon as the show was over
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 21:17:41 GMT -5
She did what?...
I'm watching people react to OP. Wow.
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Post by theironyuppie on Sept 24, 2019 21:18:33 GMT -5
I’m unsure why tonight had to have Becky beating Sasha/Bayley up 2-on-1. Look at this shit, I didn't even watch SD I'm glad someone is keeping this updated because if I did watch Live I would have been on this thread as soon as the show was over I will add for fairness the show ended with Sasha ambushing and beating up Becky backstage.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 24, 2019 21:27:06 GMT -5
Look at this shit, I didn't even watch SD I'm glad someone is keeping this updated because if I did watch Live I would have been on this thread as soon as the show was over I will add for fairness the show ended with Sasha ambushing and beating up Becky backstage. A little bit better but still don't like the visual of Sasha/Bayley getting beat up 2 on 1. Sasha did the heelish thing and ambushed her which is good but with the way they ended Becky smiling on the wrap and Sasha on the floor crying and now this with Sasha/Bayley getting beat up, I don't like it This isn't really a Braun issue where she is bigger than everyone and with Bayley/Sasha as former tag champs they should be having the upperhand
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Post by tenshi on Sept 24, 2019 21:33:46 GMT -5
I’m unsure why tonight had to have Becky beating Sasha/Bayley up 2-on-1. I have this funny feeling that Becky will beat Sasha at Hell in a Cell and then "get even" with Bayley at Survivor Series...
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Post by Starshine on Sept 24, 2019 21:36:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 21:38:38 GMT -5
First time seeing this, I love that this exists. o/
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 24, 2019 21:40:11 GMT -5
It's not a stand alone issue, just one for the pile
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Post by Dub H on Sept 24, 2019 22:03:24 GMT -5
It's not a stand alone issue, just one for the pile It is part of the reason WWE always feels the same.
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