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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 5, 2019 13:24:08 GMT -5
The choice to make him a glorified manager has been brilliant. It's letting him milk as much material as possible out of the lack of wrestling before it goes any further, while at the same time showing him being an asset to the Best Friends.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Nov 5, 2019 13:24:13 GMT -5
I think it's pretty self explanatory. "Lazy cool guy" is one of the clearer characters AEW has actually. I don't watch indies so it'll be interesting to see how they vary things to stop it getting too samey. (I assume he can rehash some things he's done in front of like 20 people at random shows that nobody else saw.)
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Post by 111111 on Nov 5, 2019 14:40:54 GMT -5
The only negative thing I have to say at all regarding Orange Cassidy is it gets confusing when Private Party is wrestling and the announcers keep calling one of them Cassidy.
They need to rename the private party guy to avoid confusion,, just have him use his first name instead or something.
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Post by salz4life on Nov 5, 2019 14:45:25 GMT -5
I feel like there is a ton of stuff they can eventually do with his character. The one thing that immediately comes to mind is a guy that REALLY tries to get under his skin and EVENTUALLY OC snaps and goes crazy only to go right back to the laid back cool guy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 14:57:10 GMT -5
The only negative thing I have to say at all regarding Orange Cassidy is it gets confusing when Private Party is wrestling and the announcers keep calling one of them Cassidy. They need to rename the private party guy to avoid confusion,, just have him use his first name instead or something. I don't really think that's that big a deal. They don't even spell it the same, it's basically like worrying about confusion between Kairi Sane and Sami Zayn.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 5, 2019 16:59:42 GMT -5
He's the ultimate cool customer, detached, taken to its extremes, but it works because he CAN wrestle to back it up. Like the best ridiculous gimmicks, it works the best in the hands of someone genuinely skilled to back it all up. This, basically. He’s a dangerous fighter who likes to troll.
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Post by 111111 on Nov 5, 2019 17:10:57 GMT -5
The only negative thing I have to say at all regarding Orange Cassidy is it gets confusing when Private Party is wrestling and the announcers keep calling one of them Cassidy. They need to rename the private party guy to avoid confusion,, just have him use his first name instead or something. I don't really think that's that big a deal. They don't even spell it the same, it's basically like worrying about confusion between Kairi Sane and Sami Zayn. I’m still baffled during Private Party matches when I hear the announcers say Cassidy but I can’t see Orange Cassidy on screen, I’m sure I’ll get used to it eventually though I guess
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Post by bog on Nov 5, 2019 18:24:27 GMT -5
Wrestling fans really have a strong desire to "get" things that in no way need to be "gotten"
There's bound to be some characters you don't like. That doesn't mean you don't "get it" or they're objectively bad. I'm not huge on Best Friends or Lucha Brothers, but it's not because there's something about them I don't "get"
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Nov 5, 2019 19:10:45 GMT -5
He’s just so good. I’m waiting for AEW to give him that David Starr type match. I think people who don’t get it will once they see what he can do. Have someone like PAC take him to his limit. It’ll be awesome. I hope they pull the trigger on it relatively soon. I like OC, but his more comedy-oriented working tends to grate on me. I prefer when, even with the comedic or outlandish gimmicks, they still for the most part take the general conceit of wrestling as a sport/contest seriously. I used to like the wacky Chikara cartoon shenanigans but it just feels a bit hipster and "too smart/cool to take wrestling seriously" on the part of the performers and audience to me now. The David Starr match is fantastic, and the general gimmick of "lazy wrestler who psychs out his opponents by being lazy" is great and has a lot of mileage beyond just being comedy. I wish they'd lean more into it, especially with their wider emphasis on wins/losses etc. and JR's sport-oriented match calls. And also, tell Excalibur to cool it with the "OH MY GOD DISGUSTING KICKS" when he does the lazy toe taps. It's like someone explaining the joke and it just feels very smarky and out of place. But honestly, while I am liking AEW overall and watching it, Orange Cassidy isn't even in the top 5 things I wish they'd change presentation wise.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 6, 2019 0:19:06 GMT -5
Meme wrestler who people will cool on in a few months. Cassidy has been doing this gimmick for years, and has been over with it for years, but go off?
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Post by Facetious on Nov 6, 2019 1:39:30 GMT -5
Meme wrestler who people will cool on in a few months. Cassidy has been doing this gimmick for years, and has been over with it for years, but go off? Joey's been doing the dick flip for years and R-Truth has been doing his schtick for years. I think OC will be fine.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 6, 2019 1:44:23 GMT -5
Cassidy has been doing this gimmick for years, and has been over with it for years, but go off? Joey's been doing the dick flip for years and R-Truth has been doing his schtick for years. I think OC will be fine. Not a fan of "Meme wrestler" to describe why people like a dude. Like just taking away all the hard work they do to get a character over. An actual meme fad is more akin to Fandangoing which really was only hot for a month if that. Cassidy has already been doing this gimmick for YEARS, all over the world, to consistently over reactions. There's a difference between catching fire and knowing what you're doing and having done it a long time. And it bugs me when people who clearly are just being spiteful because they hate the gimmick, try to discredit it with stuff like this. Some people are gonna like something and some people aren't, fair enough, but don't be shocked when it doesn't go away.
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Post by sunnytaker on Nov 6, 2019 10:27:45 GMT -5
he'd be the perfect 24/7 champ. "what? you're challenging me?" (rollup) "ok my job is done" (walks off)
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 7, 2019 6:48:23 GMT -5
For anyone who also wants to understand Cassidy more. Watch this incredible match with David Starr from Beyond they put up for free. It shows how much more there is to Cassidy and how much of a straight up beating he can take. He has a switch, he can flip it, and it's incredible when he does. He's over for a reason. www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcL4a4ohS-g&t=8s
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Post by Dub H on Nov 7, 2019 8:00:32 GMT -5
Cassidy has been doing this gimmick for years, and has been over with it for years, but go off? Joey's been doing the dick flip for years and R-Truth has been doing his schtick for years. I think OC will be fine. I listened ina review that EVENTUALLY Cassidy would need to evolve a little the character,which would be about 5 years. WHich I don't disagree because every character needs to evolve in the period of 5 years
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Nov 7, 2019 9:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by Fundertaker on Nov 7, 2019 9:55:38 GMT -5
I see latin but no lorem ipsum. Clearly way too much work to be made by OC.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Nov 7, 2019 14:58:21 GMT -5
Stupid AF.
IMHO.
But guess I'm not his demo
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 7, 2019 18:52:12 GMT -5
He's the wrestling equivalent of Fonzie from the first season of Happy Days.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 5:31:17 GMT -5
Pretty good video about the history of OC. He kinda explains the character around the 4:25 mark.
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