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Post by warden on Nov 25, 2019 11:04:38 GMT -5
Walter was out of his element. He had less than 24 hrs to prepare for this match, a match that forced him to team with guys he's not familiar with so he doesn't have that trust or assurance he would normally have with his brothers in imperium. Has to fend off two monsters by himself and unfortunately gets caught by big drew's claymore. That's why you got to keep your head on a swivel. It's ok big guy you'll get them next time
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 11:13:08 GMT -5
They buried the men's UK division in 2 minutes to someone who they don't have a clear plan for yet.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 25, 2019 11:16:24 GMT -5
It happens every year. Someone had to be eliminated first. It's no big deal. If you don't watch NXT UK, then no one even knew who he was. So, this will be forgotten about and he can still be the monster that he is as NXT UK Champion.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 11:21:31 GMT -5
They have a really bad habit of wanting to make the biggest and baddest guy be the shock first elimination
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 25, 2019 14:47:54 GMT -5
They screwed over NXT UK at Survivor Series. WALTER got jobbed out like that, and Toni Storm did a whole lot of nothing. Why even have them there if they're just going to job like that? Toni at least lasted fairly deep into the match. And it took double submissions to beat her.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2019 15:03:20 GMT -5
No excuse for that, whatsoever. This is a dude whose aura needs to be protected. This is a guy many people saw as a possible option to rip the title off of Lesnar
That showing? Just showed me Vince doesn't give a shit about him. And moreso, that NXT UK is so useless and only serving to be a petty lockout for UK's Indie wrestling scene.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 15:19:40 GMT -5
They buried the men's UK division in 2 minutes to someone who they don't have a clear plan for yet. Im pretty sure Vince forgot NXT UK and 205 Live existed. To be honest Vince thought he was Vladimir Kozlov
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 25, 2019 15:21:28 GMT -5
Unless some story comes out about him f***ing up in some enormous way, then I really have no idea why they did that to him. That was absolutely inane. The reason was because Walter Was Expendable.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 25, 2019 15:30:46 GMT -5
Unless some story comes out about him f***ing up in some enormous way, then I really have no idea why they did that to him. That was absolutely inane. Over the years, that has become a Survivor Series booking trope. They take out a monster very quickly to show that anyone can go at any time. The best example of this is when Big Show knocked out Mark Henry at the start of the Team Cena vs Team Authority match. Or when Lashley got eliminated by Kane who didn’t even leave the apron, I think
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Post by ogreknee on Nov 25, 2019 16:03:57 GMT -5
I mean drew is a hoss. He took out both Strowman and Walter with the claymore.
I mean sure whatever. If this leads to drew vs walter for the title cool.
I mean shit somebody had to be eliminated first
I also like that the moment walter is challenged by guys his size he falters. Walter is a giant bully. So.
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Post by abjordans on Nov 25, 2019 16:28:06 GMT -5
No excuse for that, whatsoever. This is a dude whose aura needs to be protected. This is a guy many people saw as a possible option to rip the title off of Lesnar That showing? Just showed me Vince doesn't give a shit about him. And moreso, that NXT UK is so useless and only serving to be a petty lockout for UK's Indie wrestling scene. I don’t think anyone saw Walter taking the title off of Lesnar as any kind of possible option....
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 25, 2019 16:50:28 GMT -5
I don't understand how anyone can defend this booking. Being as objective as possible, whether you're a fan of Walter or nor not, you don't beat an undefeated monster clean in a nothing tag match after a couple of minutes. Especially when they're the top champion on one of your brands. Vince wouldn't have done that to Andre. Or Hogan. Or Warrior. Or Brock. Because they were his guys. This was just Vince looking at NXT as beneath his WWE Superstars.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 25, 2019 16:50:59 GMT -5
Eh, Walter doesn’t really do it for me. Keith Lee seems to be a better big man in all areas.
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Post by ogreknee on Nov 25, 2019 18:04:19 GMT -5
I don't understand how anyone can defend this booking. Being as objective as possible, whether you're a fan of Walter or nor not, you don't beat an undefeated monster clean in a nothing tag match after a couple of minutes. Especially when they're the top champion on one of your brands. Vince wouldn't have done that to Andre. Or Hogan. Or Warrior. Or Brock. Because they were his guys. This was just Vince looking at NXT as beneath his WWE Superstars. Against men considerably smaller in Dunne and Bate he had a difficult time putting them away. He also was put off by Kassius being able to withstand the chops and he worked underneath to get that win on Ohno. Walter is the same size as Drew. He was able knock down Strowman off his feet and went heads up with strowman. Drew took out Walter and Strowman. Hell strowman stayed down for a countout. Walter looked good. But drew looked better by taking out the two bjggest guys in the match with his claymore. If it was ricochet, ali, or gable who took out Walter instead that would have been harsher. What they did is establish Mcyntire and the claymore as a death shot McYntire is not a jobber. He is currently in the midst of a push besides losing to KO and ricochet cleanly. This rebuilds drew as a threat. Though to who? I don't know since he is on raw and all the champs on raw are heels. So yeah. I hope they go somewhere with drew. But eh
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Post by abjordans on Nov 26, 2019 8:48:35 GMT -5
I honestly just think it comes down to Drew is someone they see more in and a bigger future for, rightfully so. I think this is being blown out of proportion.
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Post by trollrogue on Nov 27, 2019 6:25:44 GMT -5
Unless some story comes out about him f***ing up in some enormous way, then I really have no idea why they did that to him. That was absolutely inane. I heard on WhatCulture YT channel that Walter explicitly said he didn't want to be transitioned away from the WWEUK brand ala Pete Dunne or or Rhea Ripley (or Dakota Kai/Teagan Nox/Kay Lee Ray/Nikki Cross/etc.) so he was an obvious pick for first elimination to make the other brands look strong in a multi-man-match where eating a pin doesn't lose too much heat for a 1v1 specialist www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0zyep9k_YQ (skip to 11:40)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 7:00:04 GMT -5
I'm really inclined to think they were intentionally trying to make him look bad because I can't see any other reason to have had McIntyre bring it up on Raw.
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Post by Fundertaker on Nov 27, 2019 7:12:15 GMT -5
Well, there's also the fact that WALTER doesn't want to move to the US as he likes to spend time with his family in Germany, so it's not like he'll ever be a NXT/Main Roster mainstay, so in the long term taking that into account, yeah, he's mostly expendable.
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Post by eJm on Nov 27, 2019 7:50:24 GMT -5
Well, there's also the fact that WALTER doesn't want to move to the US as he likes to spend time with his family in Germany, so it's not like he'll ever be a NXT/Main Roster mainstay, so in the long term taking that into account, yeah, he's mostly expendable. ...So why put him in the match then? The answer is probably that he's the biggest name in NXT UK outside of Toni Storm which, in itself, is a big f***ing problem. Also, most of the audience watching don't know about that part, they just know what commentary says which then doesn't make that really an excuse. You could have even easily put Dijakovic in there, he can take the loss and then you could build a story where he has to build up his confidence again from Drew's lucky shot. You can't do anything with it in NXT UK right now because there's still episodes in the can to go through leading to UK Takeover.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 27, 2019 8:12:26 GMT -5
I don't understand how anyone can defend this booking. Being as objective as possible, whether you're a fan of Walter or nor not, you don't beat an undefeated monster clean in a nothing tag match after a couple of minutes. Especially when they're the top champion on one of your brands. Vince wouldn't have done that to Andre. Or Hogan. Or Warrior. Or Brock. Because they were his guys. This was just Vince looking at NXT as beneath his WWE Superstars. And as mentioned before, when he DID book that spot with Andre (Survivor Series '89), it was with Andre at the twilight of his career and they used it to build up Warrior, who was IC champ and one his way to becoming WWF champ, so it at least made sense.
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