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Post by arrogantmodel on Dec 2, 2019 14:57:02 GMT -5
I never thought anyone who smashed kendo sticks and beer cans against his head and was in a perpetual state of drunkenhood would have any sort of progressive views on society. But it would be hilariously ironic if he was very liberal and progressive. Like when idiot Maria became a legal genius at Bischoff's trial. lol.
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Post by thirteen3 on Dec 2, 2019 15:05:07 GMT -5
Isn't he or wasn't he some sort of millionaire with own construction company?
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 2, 2019 15:09:43 GMT -5
Isn't he or wasn't he some sort of millionaire with own construction company? I don't know if he's a millionaire from it, but yeah he's owned a successful construction company for years. I know it's bizarre to think about being that he is always drunk but he actually did really well with his money.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 2, 2019 15:43:46 GMT -5
Shane Douglas, after the Cornette storm: "Look, it's 2019, even if you believe that stuff, you can't just go around saying it anymore."
Sandman: "Hold my beer. No, wait, taking it with me on this one."
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 2, 2019 15:47:32 GMT -5
In a just world, this would have 100 likes. ... Genuinely took me a full day before finally getting the joke. Well played.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 2, 2019 17:01:54 GMT -5
I couldn't care less what Sandman thinks. Outside of his legendary feud with Raven (and let's be honest that was all Raven's doing) I've never found his character even slightly interesting let all own engaging. He's a weak promo. His in-ring work is barely passable. He can be a danger because of his recklessness. He simply put sucks and always has.
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Post by doinkmark on Dec 2, 2019 21:26:33 GMT -5
Guilty until proven innocent! I ask that we please give Sandman a chance to actually, ya know, respond to this before we all decide he sucks.
I remember I was at a party once. I casually commented to a guy beside me that I didn't care for the type of "music" being played. Turns out, he was a member of the next band going up. I felt HORRIBLE and tried to salvage it, but it was too late. I feel like there's at least a chance that's kind of what happened here, because you'd have to be pretty dumb (or just really bitter) to knowingly tell women about to main event that they shouldn't. If I turn out to be wrong on that, well, okay, but I feel like it's not as simple as it's being presented so far.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 2, 2019 21:29:59 GMT -5
Guilty until proven innocent! I ask that we please give Sandman a chance to actually, ya know, respond to this before we all decide he sucks. I remember I was at a party once. I casually commented to a guy beside me that I didn't care for the type of "music" being played. Turns out, he was a member of the next band going up. I felt HORRIBLE and tried to salvage it, but it was too late. I feel like there's at least a chance that's kind of what happened here, because you'd have to be pretty dumb (or just really bitter) to knowingly tell women about to main event that they shouldn't. If I turn out to be wrong on that, well, okay, but I feel like it's not as simple as it's being presented so far. I just don't think "this old ECW dude said this" is something you'd make up.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 2, 2019 21:36:04 GMT -5
Guilty until proven innocent! I ask that we please give Sandman a chance to actually, ya know, respond to this before we all decide he sucks. I remember I was at a party once. I casually commented to a guy beside me that I didn't care for the type of "music" being played. Turns out, he was a member of the next band going up. I felt HORRIBLE and tried to salvage it, but it was too late. I feel like there's at least a chance that's kind of what happened here, because you'd have to be pretty dumb (or just really bitter) to knowingly tell women about to main event that they shouldn't. If I turn out to be wrong on that, well, okay, but I feel like it's not as simple as it's being presented so far. I'm not sure what your example's really conveying there though because like; you didn't like the music so much that in your example here you put it in quotation marks. That was your genuine feeling, the fact you said it to someone not realizing that they were someone playing at that party doesn't change the sincerity of it. Of all the ways to try and defend Sandman you've chosen one that implies he believes it but stupidly didn't realize the women were actually main eventing? Man I dunno this post is weird.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 2, 2019 21:38:40 GMT -5
Guilty until proven innocent! I ask that we please give Sandman a chance to actually, ya know, respond to this before we all decide he sucks. I remember I was at a party once. I casually commented to a guy beside me that I didn't care for the type of "music" being played. Turns out, he was a member of the next band going up. I felt HORRIBLE and tried to salvage it, but it was too late. I feel like there's at least a chance that's kind of what happened here, because you'd have to be pretty dumb (or just really bitter) to knowingly tell women about to main event that they shouldn't. If I turn out to be wrong on that, well, okay, but I feel like it's not as simple as it's being presented so far. That's a terrible analogy that makes zero sense in relation to the topic at hand.
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Post by ojsampson on Dec 2, 2019 21:41:05 GMT -5
I don’t enjoy much wrestling anymore and usually change the channel male or female.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 21:43:43 GMT -5
I couldn't care less what Sandman thinks. Outside of his legendary feud with Raven (and let's be honest that was all Raven's doing) Eh, it wasn't all Raven. The feud wouldn't have worked if Sandman wasn't over with the ECW fans to the degree that he was. He was also the one to suggest using his actual son for the angle.
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Post by Tenshigure on Dec 2, 2019 22:09:47 GMT -5
Guilty until proven innocent! I ask that we please give Sandman a chance to actually, ya know, respond to this before we all decide he sucks. I remember I was at a party once. I casually commented to a guy beside me that I didn't care for the type of "music" being played. Turns out, he was a member of the next band going up. I felt HORRIBLE and tried to salvage it, but it was too late. I feel like there's at least a chance that's kind of what happened here, because you'd have to be pretty dumb (or just really bitter) to knowingly tell women about to main event that they shouldn't. If I turn out to be wrong on that, well, okay, but I feel like it's not as simple as it's being presented so far. That's a terrible analogy that makes zero sense in relation to the topic at hand. "I didn't realize they were female wrestlers, I just thought they were ring rats!" Seriously, how could what Sandman said be misinterpreted in any way? Really stretching for defense if you can find an understandable statement. Thinking the Triple Threat at Survivor Series was a poor main event is okay; thinking the problem was that they were women is not. This is not what Sandman implied in any capacity.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 3, 2019 9:33:28 GMT -5
Sandman is going to be on Busted Open today at 11:30 AM to tell his side of the story
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Post by realist on Dec 3, 2019 10:05:38 GMT -5
Guilty until proven innocent! I ask that we please give Sandman a chance to actually, ya know, respond to this before we all decide he sucks.
I remember I was at a party once. I casually commented to a guy beside me that I didn't care for the type of "music" being played. Turns out, he was a member of the next band going up. I felt HORRIBLE and tried to salvage it, but it was too late. I feel like there's at least a chance that's kind of what happened here, because you'd have to be pretty dumb (or just really bitter) to knowingly tell women about to main event that they shouldn't. If I turn out to be wrong on that, well, okay, but I feel like it's not as simple as it's being presented so far. To be fair, I decided that The Sandman sucks in like 1995 or 1996. The internet wrestling community was in its infancy and it seemed like everyone was raving about ECW and its "stars." 11-year-old me had no way of watching ECW until my family got a satellite dish. I put on ECW prepared to be blown away. I remember watching The Sandman and being thoroughly disappointed. I was basically the human embodiment of that Krusty "What the hell was that?" gif. I have never and will never see what his appeal was. Even if his views aligned with mine 100%, I would still feel the same way. Knowing that he is an asshole makes it all the better, I suppose.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 3, 2019 10:29:35 GMT -5
Sandman was 911 with charisma. He's living proof that charisma can carry you a long way in wrestling.
Can't make you not a douche, though.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 3, 2019 10:46:29 GMT -5
If Sandman didn't say this, he has had plenty of time to speak up. Also, a bunch of wrestlers have come to her defense and I haven't seen anyone trying to claim it was a misunderstanding.
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Post by Facetious on Dec 3, 2019 11:33:32 GMT -5
I know Sandman is a washed up, fried alcoholic, but... what side of the story is there where you can tell women that main eventing is wrong?
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Post by eJm on Dec 3, 2019 11:36:55 GMT -5
I know Sandman is a washed up, fried alcoholic, but... what side of the story is there where you can tell women that main eventing is wrong? And it's also not like she was the only person to say he said that when Tessa Blanchard cut a promo about it. That's not to say he might not have a defence but unless he's going to accuse a bunch of people of twisting his words, he should just use the time to apologise.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 3, 2019 11:41:30 GMT -5
Sandman, sounds drunk during this interview and he doubled down on his comments
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