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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 13:39:32 GMT -5
Wonder if the writer of Dark Empire got any royalties from this ? Probably not. When you write comics that aren't creator owned, the stories and characters are property of the company that owns the franchise. For example, if I write a Superman comic for DC, I get paid for writing that comic. However, any characters or concepts I introduce into the mythos is property of DC, not me. They can do whatever they want with the stuff I came up with.
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Post by cabbageboy on Mar 26, 2020 14:08:54 GMT -5
That's basically what caused the massive comic schism in 1992 with Marvel when a ton of artists quit and formed Image. McFarlane, Liefeld, Lee, etc. were sick of coming up with money drawing creations that Marvel was monetizing but they themselves couldn't. Even Stan Lee's net worth wasn't what you might imagine.
Is there going to be a director's cut of Rise of Skywalker? The film felt like it was edited with a chainsaw when I saw it originally.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 7:01:09 GMT -5
Is there going to be a director's cut of Rise of Skywalker? The film felt like it was edited with a chainsaw when I saw it originally. No director's commentary (or deleted scenes) on the Blu-Ray release, which tells me JJ has moved the everloving f*** on from Star Wars & is not looking back.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 27, 2020 7:52:32 GMT -5
I still can't get past all of the holes in the movie, the stuff that wasn't explained onscreen.... I just wish they never picked up the Skywalker storyline and just made a trilogy that wasn't attached. They could have picked up any point in the timeline and just did whatever they wanted to without harming the Skywalker story that people grew up on.
And I don't think i can get past Rey's character and the nostalgia points they tried desperately to give her to get her over. I enjoyed The Force Awakens with only one complaint, I liked adam driver and Mark Hamill's performance in the Last Jedi, but I just still don't know how I feel about this movie months later... and I don't like feeling like that about a franchise I've loved since I was a kid.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 27, 2020 8:00:55 GMT -5
Is there going to be a director's cut of Rise of Skywalker? The film felt like it was edited with a chainsaw when I saw it originally. No director's commentary (or deleted scenes) on the Blu-Ray release, which tells me JJ has moved the everloving f*** on from Star Wars & is not looking back. Which is good with me. J.J. was the right guy for Force Awakens, and absolutely the worst guy for Rise of Skywalker.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 27, 2020 10:24:49 GMT -5
That's basically what caused the massive comic schism in 1992 with Marvel when a ton of artists quit and formed Image. McFarlane, Liefeld, Lee, etc. were sick of coming up with money drawing creations that Marvel was monetizing but they themselves couldn't. Even Stan Lee's net worth wasn't what you might imagine. Is there going to be a director's cut of Rise of Skywalker? The film felt like it was edited with a chainsaw when I saw it originally. it's worth noting that Todd MacFarlane's hill to die on was a character whose creation was the work of like 6 different people.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 27, 2020 12:54:17 GMT -5
That's basically what caused the massive comic schism in 1992 with Marvel when a ton of artists quit and formed Image. McFarlane, Liefeld, Lee, etc. were sick of coming up with money drawing creations that Marvel was monetizing but they themselves couldn't. Even Stan Lee's net worth wasn't what you might imagine. Is there going to be a director's cut of Rise of Skywalker? The film felt like it was edited with a chainsaw when I saw it originally. it's worth noting that Todd MacFarlane's hill to die on was a character whose creation was the work of like 6 different people. And MacFarlane would go on to deprive people of credit in his own right, offering ownership to people who worked on his books then reneging, going as far to try to steal the work of people like Neil Gaiman. He was sued, lost and to this day, fellow creator rights enthusiast and Image founder Erik Larsen supports MacFarlane stealing from other creators... And let's not go into all the piles and piles of knockoff X-men put out by Liefeld.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 27, 2020 13:50:38 GMT -5
No director's commentary (or deleted scenes) on the Blu-Ray release, which tells me JJ has moved the everloving f*** on from Star Wars & is not looking back. Which is good with me. J.J. was the right guy for Force Awakens, and absolutely the worst guy for Rise of Skywalker. JJ did a great job directing, god it felt like Star Wars in a way the prequels never did, but just about anyone else should have wrote it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 27, 2020 14:24:41 GMT -5
Which is good with me. J.J. was the right guy for Force Awakens, and absolutely the worst guy for Rise of Skywalker. JJ did a great job directing, god it felt like Star Wars in a way the prequels never did, but just about anyone else should have wrote it. Yeah, I can give you that. J.J. is a talented director, but yeah, he's not the greatest writer and pairing him with the scribe responsible for Batman v Superman and Justice League was an abysmal combination.
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Post by Fade on Mar 27, 2020 14:47:02 GMT -5
I still can't get past all of the holes in the movie, the stuff that wasn't explained onscreen.... I just wish they never picked up the Skywalker storyline and just made a trilogy that wasn't attached. They could have picked up any point in the timeline and just did whatever they wanted to without harming the Skywalker story that people grew up on. And I don't think i can get past Rey's character and the nostalgia points they tried desperately to give her to get her over. I enjoyed The Force Awakens with only one complaint, I liked adam driver and Mark Hamill's performance in the Last Jedi, but I just still don't know how I feel about this movie months later... and I don't like feeling like that about a franchise I've loved since I was a kid. Hindsight is 2020. They absolutely should have distanced themselves from the prequels and the OT. But to play devils advocate, can you really fault a company set out on making money, to capitalize on people’s nostalgia? It made sense in theory, but played out terribly in execution. And, yeah, the big stick in the mud was hiring Chris Terrio to write TROS. Of ALL the screenwriters they could have hired, the fact they setteled on him is absolutely puzzling. FWIW, I feel the same confusion/apathy after being a fan since I was a kid. And that does suck.
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Post by thechase on Mar 30, 2020 12:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 30, 2020 12:10:21 GMT -5
Is there going to be a director's cut of Rise of Skywalker? The film felt like it was edited with a chainsaw when I saw it originally. No director's commentary (or deleted scenes) on the Blu-Ray release, which tells me JJ has moved the everloving f*** on from Star Wars & is not looking back. #ReleaseTheAbramsCut !!!!!!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 14, 2020 9:58:25 GMT -5
God bless faneditors.
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Post by zrowsdower on Jun 14, 2020 10:40:01 GMT -5
I just wish it had more Rose and Broom kid in it.
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Post by prettynami on Jun 14, 2020 11:22:24 GMT -5
Dang, that really works!
It does draw back to one of my complaints... They call it the "Skywalker Saga" when the Skywalkers basically had nothing to do with the ending. They should have kept with Anakin/Darth Vader being the binding thread that the prequels established - His force ghost should have been present in the new movies to help guide Rey away from Anakin's trappings or something - after all who has better insight into fallen Jedi than one who has made that mistake? He's also there as a source of knowledge about the mysterious Sith and the dark side - characters and the viewers could literally get exposition from him in scenes that forward the plot/character development if the writers had so chosen. Oh well, missed opportunities, I suppose. Or at least I think they are.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jun 14, 2020 11:53:09 GMT -5
That’s such a better movie
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 14, 2020 12:36:27 GMT -5
Dang, that really works! It does draw back to one of my complaints... They call it the "Skywalker Saga" when the Skywalkers basically had nothing to do with the ending. They should have kept with Anakin/Darth Vader being the binding thread that the prequels established - His force ghost should have been present in the new movies to help guide Rey away from Anakin's trappings or something - after all who has better insight into fallen Jedi than one who has made that mistake? He's also there as a source of knowledge about the mysterious Sith and the dark side - characters and the viewers could literally get exposition from him in scenes that forward the plot/character development if the writers had so chosen. Oh well, missed opportunities, I suppose. Or at least I think they are. I think after the flack he got from the prequels Hayden Christensen is counting himself lucky he was never asked to reprise in the sequels.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 14, 2020 13:56:37 GMT -5
That's basically what caused the massive comic schism in 1992 with Marvel when a ton of artists quit and formed Image. McFarlane, Liefeld, Lee, etc. were sick of coming up with money drawing creations that Marvel was monetizing but they themselves couldn't. Even Stan Lee's net worth wasn't what you might imagine. Is there going to be a director's cut of Rise of Skywalker? The film felt like it was edited with a chainsaw when I saw it originally. it's worth noting that Todd MacFarlane's hill to die on was a character whose creation was the work of like 6 different people. Then there's Liefeld, who ripped off Deathstroke and now acts like Disney should kiss his ass.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 14, 2020 14:43:54 GMT -5
Dang, that really works! It does draw back to one of my complaints... They call it the "Skywalker Saga" when the Skywalkers basically had nothing to do with the ending. They should have kept with Anakin/Darth Vader being the binding thread that the prequels established - His force ghost should have been present in the new movies to help guide Rey away from Anakin's trappings or something - after all who has better insight into fallen Jedi than one who has made that mistake? He's also there as a source of knowledge about the mysterious Sith and the dark side - characters and the viewers could literally get exposition from him in scenes that forward the plot/character development if the writers had so chosen. Oh well, missed opportunities, I suppose. Or at least I think they are. I think after the flack he got from the prequels Hayden Christensen is counting himself lucky he was never asked to reprise in the sequels. The funny thing is that Hayden is now beloved in SW fan circles. Probably because he's apparently super-nice at all the fan encounters at conventions and SW Celebrations. And it probably also has to do with the growing up of the generation of kids who loved the prequels filtering into the fandom. I also think hindsight's been more kind to him with the realization that the bad acting in the prequels is more the fault of George Lucas than the actors.
I do think it would've been neat if Force Ghost Anakin showed up to both Ben and Rey. Build that up as another part of the dyad.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 14, 2020 16:06:21 GMT -5
The funny thing is that Hayden is now beloved in SW fan circles. Probably because he's apparently super-nice at all the fan encounters at conventions and SW Celebrations. And it probably also has to do with the growing up of the generation of kids who loved the prequels filtering into the fandom. I also think hindsight's been more kind to him with the realization that the bad acting in the prequels is more the fault of George Lucas than the actors.
I do think it would've been neat if Force Ghost Anakin showed up to both Ben and Rey. Build that up as another part of the dyad.
Very true, but equally its not the people going to conventions and Celebration who are the ones dishing out the vast majority of the hate. Given how obsessed Ben was with Vader, it's really quite surprising that at least one scene of Anakin's ghost showing up wasn't in one of these movies.
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